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Post by gary on Jun 9, 2016 20:17:38 GMT -5
I understand the July report date is Monday the 25th. Would July 10 be a report date for a "June" hire of an ODAR insider? I think gary may have made a reference to this earlier. Yes. That's my guess.
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Post by stew on Jun 9, 2016 20:21:22 GMT -5
"Insider" hires for June also start June 27.
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Post by Pixie on Jun 9, 2016 20:35:21 GMT -5
The member who reported a start date of July 10 is an outsider who received a deferment from the June class. Pixie
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Post by minny on Jun 9, 2016 20:38:35 GMT -5
The member who reported a start date of July 10 is an outsider who received a deferment from the June class. Pixie This is interesting because the early reports were that there would be July 25 report date with training August 15 to September 5. Maybe they have moved these dates forward?
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Post by february on Jun 9, 2016 20:51:13 GMT -5
I requested a deferral to July and was given a July 24 (July 25 in office) start date.
Is is possible that they're staggering classes, and there will be three classes, one starting every 2 weeks (June 26, July 10, July 24)?
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Post by christina on Jun 9, 2016 21:04:58 GMT -5
I requested a deferral to July and was given a July 24 (July 25 in office) start date. Is is possible that they're staggering classes, and there will be three classes, one starting every 2 weeks (June 26, July 10, July 24)? Unlikely.
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Post by february on Jun 9, 2016 21:06:44 GMT -5
I requested a deferral to July and was given a July 24 (July 25 in office) start date. Is is possible that they're staggering classes, and there will be three classes, one starting every 2 weeks (June 26, July 10, July 24)? Unlikely. I know. But what do you make of the outsiders reporting July 10 start dates?
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Post by christina on Jun 9, 2016 21:10:52 GMT -5
Just probably worked out for them to start on 7-10. Maybe they asked and if there are still training spots for the July 18th training, why not let them start on the 10th?
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Post by gary on Jun 9, 2016 21:14:17 GMT -5
I requested a deferral to July and was given a July 24 (July 25 in office) start date. Is is possible that they're staggering classes, and there will be three classes, one starting every 2 weeks (June 26, July 10, July 24)? Maybe. I'm not sure how that works with their facilities and the personnel lined up to teach the classes.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 9, 2016 22:12:41 GMT -5
Unlikely. I think there is confusion as to the different use of the word "class." Most of the "first class" hired starts on June 26 (Sunday, but remember that's how SSA calculates time). The first two weeks they will be in the office and the ALJ training class in Falls Church begins July 11 (or July 10 if you want to use Sunday again). Unless they change the class schedule, the class runs 4 weeks (or 3½) ending around or before August 5. The next class reports in their office on July 24 (Sunday) and their class starts two weeks later, August 8; right after the first class ends.
I don't have the exact schedule, but this is consistent with how classes have been run in the past. I mentioned before that there is a lot of logistics necessary to line up the instructors and everything else in these classes. If the classes run about 80 persons each, which is a lot, They would not be able to overlap. Just too many people to manage at once.
I'm hopeful they are not done hiring as they indicated from the management call. 107 or even 120 at this point would leave another 105 for the September class, which is too large. It seems to me that more calls will go out, but I think they also have to access confirmations from those who wanted more time than a few seconds. When these people report at the office is not as critical as the training class, so if someone needs extra time, they may be granted that depending on their circumstances. However, the class schedules of July 11 and August 8 are likely set in stone.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 9, 2016 22:13:42 GMT -5
Got the call earlier today, and voted in the polls. This is a very happy day for us, and I sincerely hope you will get called soon. This board has been a tremendous resource, and your contributions are appreciated! Thank you so very much to Propmaster, Pixie, Gaiden, Gary, ... too many names to list. Congratulations and welcome aboard.
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Post by Google on Jun 9, 2016 22:22:09 GMT -5
One class starts on July 18 and then the next class starts on August 15th... Classes are not staggered every two weeks. I believe the July 25th start date in an office will place the new hire in an August 15th class - three weeks in office before training. A third class will start on October 11. Exciting times ahead! Congratulations to everyone.
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Post by elvis on Jun 9, 2016 22:24:56 GMT -5
Unlikely. I think there is confusion as to the different use of the word "class." Most of the "first class" hired starts on June 26 (Sunday, but remember that's how SSA calculates time). The first two weeks they will be in the office and the ALJ training class in Falls Church begins July 11 (or July 10 if you want to use Sunday again). Unless they change the class schedule, the class runs 4 weeks (or 3½) ending around or before August 5. The next class reports in their office on July 24 (Sunday) and their class starts two weeks later, August 8; right after the first class ends. .... However, the class schedules of July 11 and August 8 are likely set in stone. Alright, color me officially confused. I thought it was THREE weeks in the hearing office, not two, and then four weeks in Falls Church. For more than a month now, I thought we were operating with info that the dates are (1) report June 27, train July 18, and (2) report July 25, train August 15. edit: yeah, what google said
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Post by Google on Jun 9, 2016 22:29:10 GMT -5
... three weeks in the office - 1st class July 18; second training class starts August 15 (you will have been in office for 3 weeks prior) and then start in office on September 19th with training class starting October 11... make more sense ?
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Post by gary on Jun 9, 2016 22:29:25 GMT -5
Unlikely. I think there is confusion as to the different use of the word "class." Most of the "first class" hired starts on June 26 (Sunday, but remember that's how SSA calculates time). The first two weeks they will be in the office and the ALJ training class in Falls Church begins July 11 (or July 10 if you want to use Sunday again). Unless they change the class schedule, the class runs 4 weeks (or 3½) ending around or before August 5. The next class reports in their office on July 24 (Sunday) and their class starts two weeks later, August 8; right after the first class ends. .... However, the class schedules of July 11 and August 8 are likely set in stone. Alright, color me officially confused. I thought it was THREE weeks in the hearing office, not two, and then four weeks in Falls Church. For more than a month now, I thought we were operating with info that the dates are (1) report June 27, train July 18, and (2) report July 25, train August 15. edit: yeah, what google said That's what I thought, and that's why a start date of 7/11 has me confused.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 9, 2016 22:30:10 GMT -5
One class starts on July 18 and then the next class starts on August 15th... Classes are not staggered every two weeks. I believe the July 25th start date in an office will place the new hire in an August 15th class - three weeks in office before training. A third class will start on October 11. Exciting times ahead! Congratulations to everyone. As I said, I don't have the exact schedule, but this is still consistent. In my class we had two weeks before flying to FC. Now they give three weeks. All the better to get oriented. But the training classes are still arranged not to overlap. Thanks for the correction google.
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Post by cowboy on Jun 9, 2016 22:32:33 GMT -5
Alright, color me officially confused. I thought it was THREE weeks in the hearing office, not two, and then four weeks in Falls Church. For more than a month now, I thought we were operating with info that the dates are (1) report June 27, train July 18, and (2) report July 25, train August 15. edit: yeah, what google said That's what I thought, and that's why a start date of 7/11 has me confused. I think someone is getting a little leeway, or they decided to start early if they are already working in the office for which they were hired. This has happened before. When they start in the office is not particularly stirring.
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Post by luckylady2 on Jun 9, 2016 22:33:04 GMT -5
Agree; things always get a little confusing because there's a tendency to refer to groups by their FC training dates instead of their start dates.
So if you want to go by start dates - The "June" class starts June 26 at their home office (Sun, report to work on Mon the 27th) and our training at FC goes July 18 to August 12, so by FC training date it's the July FC class.
We think that the next class will be back-to-back with the June-July one, so it will start 3 weeks ahead of the August 15 FC class start - or on July 24. If some are starting sooner at their home offices (they've done this before), those folks will just have a longer pre-FC-training period, but the same FC dates, which will be August 15 to Sept 9, from what we've heard. So it'll be the July-August class.
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Post by gary on Jun 9, 2016 22:42:08 GMT -5
That's what I thought, and that's why a start date of 7/11 has me confused. I think someone is getting a little leeway, or they decided to start early if they are already working in the office for which they were hired. This has happened before. When they start in the office is not particularly stirring. I thought maybe they were allowing some insiders to start later than the NODARs but was told that NODARs were starting on 7/11 too.
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Post by gary on Jun 9, 2016 22:44:43 GMT -5
Agree; things always get a little confusing because there's a tendency to refer to groups by their FC training dates instead of their start dates. So if you want to go by start dates - The "June" class starts June 26 at their home office (Sun, report to work on Mon the 27th) and our training at FC goes July 18 to August 12, so by FC training date it's the July FC class. We think that the next class will be back-to-back with the June-July one, so it will start 3 weeks ahead of the August 15 FC class start - or on July 24. If some are starting sooner at their home offices (they've done this before), those folks will just have a longer pre-FC-training period, but the same FC dates, which will be August 15 to Sept 9, from what we've heard. So it'll be the July-August class. 7/11 is two weeks after the 6/27 start date, so it is not a reference to the start of FC training.
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