Have All Offers Been Made

[lawguardian]

Does anyone know if all offers have gone out yet?

[Propmaster]

We have had only sparse new offers reported today. If you have a city for which no acceptance is recorded (or even better, when a rejection is recorded ala West LA) you could still have hope of being number two there. Otherwise, I think we're about done.

I don't know for sure, mind you.

Edit: Testtaker's post makes me

[testtaker]

It is with deep disappointment that I tell you that I just called down to the personnel office to inquire about the offers (I figure someone had to do it!). The nice woman who answered the phone said ALL offers were made yesterday via e-mail. I suppose that from this point on, its just a matter of dealing with the declinations.

I'm going to go off into a corner and sulk now.
But tomorrow is another day!

[privateattorney]

Thanks for calling testtaker. I was already sulking as a result of posts I had seen, but I'm glad someone had the courage to call so the rest of us could end the agony of uncertainty. Now I can put this behind me for now and focus on my work. I guess there's always hope for the next go around, but I'm less hopeful at this point. It's all a mystery to me. Good luck to all!

[lawguardian]

Thanks testtaker. While I am happy for those who were successful in this game, I too am disappointed and am left feeling like something big happened but not sure what. If I had a better idea about the entire process, rejection might not be so bad, but I don't even know where to start again. I think the Agency could save a lot of time and money by drawing names from a hat, which seems to be just as efficient and reasonable as what they did. And before anyone says anything, I am not saying that the people who were chosen are not superstars. To the contrary, I believe we are all the cream of the crop, and that the hurdles we have been through (SI, WD, and Interview) did little to predict the worthiness or success of a candidate for an ALJ slot.

[jazz]

I am relieved that all this is over. I wish I had gotten an offer, but it just wasn't in the cards at this time. This has been a distraction, and I hope to get back to giving full attention to my family and my job. Right now I am leaving the office early to go surprise the kids and pick them up after school. We will see what kind of trouble we can get into.

[crazybroad]

Feb 29, 2008 13:58:35 GMT -5 jazz said:

I am relieved that all this is over. I wish I had gotten an offer, but it just wasn't in the cards at this time. This has been a distraction, and I hope to get back to giving full attention to my family and my job. Right now I am leaving the office early to go surprise the kids and pick them up after school. We will see what kind of trouble we can get into.

I did the exact same thing Jazz, left work early to pick up my 3 year old and will be getting my 5 year old from school at 3. I was too thinking of taking them somewhere to have fun. Just being thankful for the blessings that I do have, after I wallowed in my own self-pity for a bit. Looking forward to the next cert. With my score, I was lucky to be on the last one.

[bb]

Did everyone get an email, or is there anyone that got phone calls? If you did get an email, where did it come? Home or office? Also, did anyone get it in their Spam email box and not their regular inbox?

[nyctourist]

I also left work early. Odar attorney with 17 years with gov't, so I took next week off as well. Need a break. It's really been intense this week, and with the unfavorable outcome, I really feel drained. So - back to real life - weekend chess tournament with my 12 year old. He andI are also going out for coffee and hot chocolate at local Barnes and Nobel and just spend time together.

[mushroom]

Well, last day of the last week of the month....usual ODAR craziness. I too am disappointed, but know there will be future opportunities.

As for me, I'm going to go have that beer we all talked about!

Cheers!

[aljsouth]

Feb 29, 2008 13:42:21 GMT -5 newalj said:

to those who did not get an offer yet, keep your chins up. i think there will be more declinations than you think. it's hard to work out the logistics of moving your whole family so i think people will start declining in the next few days. the email i received gave me a week to respond, so more offers will probably go out in the coming weeks. again, good luck to all.

I think the plan is to fill those slots not filled because of declination on a later round of hires, rather than call a "second" candidate to fill the slot. At least, that is the rumor I heard. Still all those on the cert will be on it for the next round, depending on the locations selected.

[podar]

ALJ South,

I think waiting for the next cert would conflict with class scheduling, unless there are fewer than 19 unfilled declinations or other additions to the current number (31 I think) headed for the rumored July class. They would have to get rolling right away, way faster than I would anticipate to back fill slots in the currently scheduled classes. Did your source explain how that might work. Also, it seems a new cert would include only those with high enough OPM scores to be reached by a rule of three (times the number on the cert). That will not include everyone left over from this cert, which went very deep into the register.

[Sue DoeNym]

I think the plan is to fill those slots not filled because of declination on a later round of hires, rather than call a "second" candidate to fill the slot. At least, that is the rumor I heard. Still all those on the cert will be on it for the next round, depending on the locations selected.

I spoke to personnel this afternoon. I can confirm a few things.

1. Declinations will NOT be filled this round. The slots will roll over to the next cert later this year. The reason given was the rule of 3.

2. There WILL be another cert this year. It is their hope/goal/plan to hire 25 plus the six not hired plus any slots that were declined.

3. A declined city from this round may or may not be on the next cert. It will depend upon transfers and other variables.

I hope this clarifies things for folks.

My best to all, offers or no, everyone on this board appears to be highly qualified and will do well in any endeavor.

[Pixie]

It makes no sense to wait and fill the declined slots in a later round unless they feel that some of the ones they wanted to get to this time around would have a better shot on the next round. I feel pretty sure that there are insiders they really wanted, on this certificate, they couldn't get to this time. Maybe they think that they would have better luck next time? Or they may be waiting on the declinations to come in so they will know what they have to work with to fill the declined slots. We may see another round of five to ten offers in a week or so after things get sorted out.

In the past, the offers to fill the declined slots followed closely on the heels of the first offers. This time there are new people in charge and things are being done differently. In trying to figure it all out, what is a pixie to do? Pix.

[aljsouth]

Feb 29, 2008 19:47:16 GMT -5 podar said:

ALJ South,

I think waiting for the next cert would conflict with class scheduling, unless there are fewer than 19 unfilled declinations or other additions to the current number (31 I think) headed for the rumored July class. They would have to get rolling right away, way faster than I would anticipate to back fill slots in the currently scheduled classes. Did your source explain how that might work. Also, it seems a new cert would include only those with high enough OPM scores to be reached by a rule of three (times the number on the cert). That will not include everyone left over from this cert, which went very deep into the register.

I believe the thinking is that there won' t be enough declinations to screw up a class. From the reports on this board this appears to be correct. In short, one offer is being made for slot A in xyz city. If the person declines then no selection will be made for that slot on this cert. This is what I was told. It is easier for the agency in making offers, and they can always make offers later since they are planning to hire more judges anyway.

As to the next cert, yes it will be smaller since the number of slots are smaller. You are correct in this.