dwfl
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Post by dwfl on Jun 29, 2017 21:55:23 GMT -5
I received appeal results on June 28, 2017 after failing to score high enough to qualify for D.C. testing, followed by a correction of appeal results on June 29, 2017. My appeal response took less than a year. On August 12, 2016, I learned that I would not advance to DC testing and appealed. On June 28, 2017, I received an appeal results notice that was identical to the appeal denial posted by board member upbeat on August 13, 2015 ( aljdiscussion.proboards.com/thread/3459/round-2-rejectees). This notice included language regarding a larger group of applicants going on to D.C. However, on June 29, 2017, I received a corrected appeal notice that no longer included the paragraph concerning a larger group of applicants going to D.C. Thus, a further expansion of D.C. testing seems even more unlikely. The speediness of response, by government standards, may have occurred because my appeal was easy to adjudicate. I was surprised that OPM initially determined that I had seven years of appropriate experience, though I believe that finding changed based upon my EA response. My fishing expedition appeal failed to uncover anything helpful. Anyway, it appears that OPM is actively reviewing appeals. My appeal was probably one of the first completed. In fact, the use of a recycled 2015 notice with erroneous information, followed by a correction, indicates that I may have been the first to receive a notice concerning my EA appeal.
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faith
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Post by faith on Jun 29, 2017 22:58:56 GMT -5
Are the appeal assignees supposed to be ALJs? I Googled the names of the two assignees and both are OPM HR employees. I even searched them on this board, and found old posts where someone included one of the assignees listed on my appeal note . With all due respect to these two "assignees" I want ALJs to review my WD, please.
On a related note, I see that two people in this thread, Merlot and another, tested for the WD on 11/16 and the SI on 11/17. Those were my dates and I am appealing the WD. Now I am wondering if we had computer problems or there is/was a problem with the 11/16 WD process. Happy July 4th to all.
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Post by LadyJR on Jun 29, 2017 23:35:08 GMT -5
I also interviewed on 11/16 with 2 interviewers...merlot and LadyJR also interviewed on 11/16. If all three of us voted in the poll then 3/6 of us interviewed on 11/16. 😳 Actually my si was 11/15 - I meant 2016...but close enough.
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Post by hopefulop on Jun 29, 2017 23:39:01 GMT -5
Are the appeal assignees supposed to be ALJs? I Googled the names of the two assignees and both are OPM HR employees. I even searched them on this board, and found old posts where someone included one of the assignees listed on my appeal note . With all due respect to these two "assignees" I want ALJs to review my WD, please. On a related note, I see that two people in this thread, Merlot and another, tested for the WD on 11/16 and the SI on 11/17. Those were my dates and I am appealing the WD. Now I am wondering if we had computer problems or there is/was a problem with the 11/16 WD process. Happy July 4th to all. i only have one assignee and he too is HR person at OPM
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Post by LadyJR on Jun 30, 2017 0:30:40 GMT -5
I have two hr managers assigned both at gs 12. My guess is that they are assigned for admin purposes. I certainly hope the 'panel' has an Alj too.
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Post by merlot on Jul 2, 2017 21:38:36 GMT -5
Are the appeal assignees supposed to be ALJs? I Googled the names of the two assignees and both are OPM HR employees. I even searched them on this board, and found old posts where someone included one of the assignees listed on my appeal note . With all due respect to these two "assignees" I want ALJs to review my WD, please. On a related note, I see that two people in this thread, Merlot and another, tested for the WD on 11/16 and the SI on 11/17. Those were my dates and I am appealing the WD. Now I am wondering if we had computer problems or there is/was a problem with the 11/16 WD process. Happy July 4th to all. faith, sorry for any confusion. I tested on 11/1. I think I put 11/16 just to say Nov 2016. Don't know if others from that date are appealing like me. Happy 4th!! P.S. for what it's worth my 2 assignees are OPM as well per the great Google!
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Post by mango54 on Jul 3, 2017 10:50:00 GMT -5
Appeal done. I have one assignee--a gs12 human resource manager. Wonder why some are getting 2 assignees and others 1?
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Post by mango54 on Jul 3, 2017 11:21:07 GMT -5
Appeal done. I have one assignee--a gs12 human resource manager. Wonder why some are getting 2 assignees and others 1? I guess they could be training new folks.....
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Post by foghorn on Jul 10, 2017 11:04:43 GMT -5
We hadn't discussed question on whether you submit as an email or with an attached doc. A new thread on filing the appeal was opened, closed when the unanimous verdict of those who submitted appeals was that an email submission was the way to go. Of course if you want to belt and suspenders the issue, you could attach a doc. Deadline in 4 days folks!
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Appealing
Jul 10, 2017 18:07:03 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by lizbells on Jul 10, 2017 18:07:03 GMT -5
For what it's worth, sent in an appeal on Friday with four attachments to support my request. Received answer and updated NOR today!
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Post by gary on Jul 10, 2017 18:31:57 GMT -5
For what it's worth, sent in an appeal on Friday with four attachments to support my request. Received answer and updated NOR today! Are you saying you did not have a score but you now have one? What issue were you appealing?
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Post by rp on Jul 10, 2017 19:34:50 GMT -5
For what it's worth, sent in an appeal on Friday with four attachments to support my request. Received answer and updated NOR today! Are you saying you did not have a score but you now have one? What issue were you appealing? Is that who the certs are waiting on? Sheesh!
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Post by JudgeKnot on Jul 10, 2017 19:34:55 GMT -5
For what it's worth, sent in an appeal on Friday with four attachments to support my request. Received answer and updated NOR today! Are you saying you did not have a score but you now have one? What issue were you appealing? Something's not right with that. A new member, on their first post, says an appeal on Friday ended up in a score on Monday? It would be great if true, since all the results are supposed to be released at the same time, but I have my doubts.
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Appealing
Jul 10, 2017 19:40:12 GMT -5
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Post by gary on Jul 10, 2017 19:40:12 GMT -5
Are you saying you did not have a score but you now have one? What issue were you appealing? Something's not right with that. A new member, on their first post, says an appeal on Friday ended up in a score on Monday? It would be great if true, since all the results are supposed to be released at the same time, but I have my doubts. Not all.
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Post by sophie22 on Jul 10, 2017 19:42:32 GMT -5
Only explanation I can think of would be that the poster's appeal was for Vet Pref points, and submitted her proofs, and then received a revised NOR with a new score?
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Post by lizbells on Jul 10, 2017 20:28:31 GMT -5
Sorry, had to tend to life responsibilities. Yes, exact issue as Sophie22 surmised.
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Appealing
Jul 10, 2017 21:11:04 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by rp on Jul 10, 2017 21:11:04 GMT -5
Sorry, had to tend to life responsibilities. Yes, exact issue as Sophie22 surmised. Good for you!
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Post by foghorn on Jul 11, 2017 7:03:53 GMT -5
Congratulations! Hope they can turnaround that quickly for the bar snafus (didn't put date, judicial type limited practice [DA's etc] read by them as "not active," etc).
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Post by JudgeKnot on Jul 12, 2017 12:14:45 GMT -5
I looked, without success, to see if I could find any other threads or polls on these questions. Is there any history here of what percentage of appeals turned a FOAD into a score? Is there a poll showing what the resulting scores were from successful appeals? If there are, links would be appreciated. If not, I have no qualms if someone wants to make this a new thread. This thread just seemed like a logical starting point. I'm just trying to get a feel for whether an appeal has a realistic chance of making someone reachable.
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Post by foghorn on Jul 12, 2017 12:36:19 GMT -5
Anecdotally, some have had success on WD appeals with a rescore. That means they got and NOR. I can tell you from my interactions requesting information the stats you want you won't get if they have them, and I think that's way more detail than this voluntary reporting site will get.
Consensus has been: Why not appeal? Worst they can say is no, time spent is minimal (it doesn't have to be a brief--nor should it be).
If you are trying to frame an inssue PM me and give me a better idea of your concern.
Put it this way--it's tougher to get SI's overturned, but I'm appealing. Page page and a half. Why not? My case is true.
All the best
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