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Post by 71stretch on Aug 3, 2017 11:52:24 GMT -5
There were three WD rejects in my office. I think only one of them decided to appeal. All three very capable, bright people. I was shocked. I wasn't sure whether to be proud of the fact that I ran that gauntlet twice, or to just feel lucky.
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Post by acttwo on Aug 3, 2017 12:07:35 GMT -5
ActTwo-- I can assure you as my group of SI rejects are all experienced litgators of many many years, sagacious, witty, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, brave & reverent (mostly clean, too!). As a Group W Bench we make a worthy lot! Hmm, wondering if maybe we should start a band with all these folks! Or get matching t-shirts with some cryptic slogan! Maybe, "I took the WD & SI and all I got was this t-shirt". Nah, no, it's been done. But maybe tees with Foghorn's avatar on them--LOVE Opus rocked out!
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Post by foghorn on Aug 3, 2017 13:18:04 GMT -5
ActTwo-- I can assure you as my group of SI rejects are all experienced litgators of many many years, sagacious, witty, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, brave & reverent (mostly clean, too!). As a Group W Bench we make a worthy lot! Hmm, wondering if maybe we should start a band with all these folks! Or get matching t-shirts with some cryptic slogan! Maybe, "I took the WD & SI and all I got was this t-shirt". Nah, no, it's been done. But maybe tees with Foghorn's avatar on them--LOVE Opus rocked out! Like your suggestion better--or use both! could be a winner in "most obscure T shirt reference"
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Post by hopefulop on Aug 3, 2017 13:44:02 GMT -5
ActTwo-- I can assure you as my group of SI rejects are all experienced litgators of many many years, sagacious, witty, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful, brave & reverent (mostly clean, too!). As a Group W Bench we make a worthy lot! Hmm, wondering if maybe we should start a band with all these folks! Or get matching t-shirts with some cryptic slogan! Maybe, "I took the WD & SI and all I got was this t-shirt". Nah, no, it's been done. But maybe tees with Foghorn's avatar on them--LOVE Opus rocked out! I'm in -- I don't have a "posse" but I failed the WD so would be happy to join yours haha
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Post by acttwo on Aug 3, 2017 18:07:55 GMT -5
Hmm, wondering if maybe we should start a band with all these folks! Or get matching t-shirts with some cryptic slogan! Maybe, "I took the WD & SI and all I got was this t-shirt". Nah, no, it's been done. But maybe tees with Foghorn's avatar on them--LOVE Opus rocked out! I'm in -- I don't have a "posse" but I failed the WD so would be happy to join yours haha Everyone is always welcome!
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Post by LadyJR on Aug 3, 2017 20:35:02 GMT -5
It certainly looks like things are moving faster with opm than in previous years.
On that note, I pray we get our positive wd appeal responses before a refresh. Really don't want to go through the entire process $$$ to get to D.C. again.
Maybe we overwhelmed their resources for qualified re-graders and a retest will lesson that load. I know this comment can go in the refresh thread but those comments seem mostly to be people with scores or narrow gals debating retesting so it goes here with those similarly situated w nothing but a t-shirt at the moment!
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Appealing
Aug 3, 2017 20:36:25 GMT -5
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Post by LadyJR on Aug 3, 2017 20:36:25 GMT -5
There were three WD rejects in my office. I think only one of them decided to appeal. All three very capable, bright people. I was shocked. I wasn't sure whether to be proud of the fact that I ran that gauntlet twice, or to just feel lucky. Of course you should feel proud. But Lady Luck indeed plays a role too! IMO
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Post by acttwo on Aug 4, 2017 11:03:06 GMT -5
Just thinking how funny it would be to design the t-shirt and offer it out for folks to make up one if they so choose. The funny part would be if I ran into someone wearing one while I was in mine-- there goes anonymity! But, if we wanted official Board tees, maybe a collage of ALJD/Pixie/Gary/JudgeRatty/etc avatars would be fitting. And it would not reveal one's NOR/Cert status. Of course someone [looking at you, gary], would insist we pay royalties for use of their image! LOL! [If we wanted to use christina's collection of avatars, that would require a shirt of its own!]
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Appealing
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Post by gary on Aug 4, 2017 11:23:10 GMT -5
Just thinking how funny it would be to design the t-shirt and offer it out for folks to make up one if they so choose. The funny part would be if I ran into someone wearing one while I was in mine-- there goes anonymity! But, if we wanted official Board tees, maybe a collage of ALJD/Pixie/Gary/JudgeRatty/etc avatars would be fitting. And it would not reveal one's NOR/Cert status. Of course someone [looking at you, gary], would insist we pay royalties for use of their image! LOL! [If we wanted to use christina's collection of avatars, that would require a shirt of its own!] Christina's avatars would not require a shirt--they'd require a collection.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 4, 2017 12:11:15 GMT -5
Don't want to get anyone's hopes elevated too much, but despite the discussion at the thread Reopening the Register to the effect this is just a refreshing, I read the words and the explanations sure looks like they are saying they are going to do it allllllllllllllllllll again. Maybe too many appeals so they decided "the heck with it--let the minging whiners go through the mill again! Ha!--Let that Foghorn guy wait forever for a 3 person panel. We know who's going on his!" Be that as it may, hope springs infernal: Statement from the U.S. Office of Personnel Management Regarding the 2017 Administrative Law Judge Examination Washington DC - The U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM) is announcing it will open the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) Examination to interested applicants in the near future by posting a job opportunity announcement on USAJOBS. ALJs serve as impartial arbiters at regulatory and benefits-granting agencies. Individuals who are interested in applying are urged to monitor the USAJOBS website in the coming weeks. A notice will also be posted on the OPM ALJ website. The ALJ examination involves a full review of applicant qualifications, including specific legal experience and bar status, and a multi-part assessment of relevant competencies, through the use of online, proctored and in-person assessments. Applicants who pass the preliminary qualification screening and proceed past an online assessment process will then be scheduled to participate in the proctored and in-person assessments in the Washington, DC, area. By applying for the ALJ examination, applicants are essentially applying to be placed on a register (i.e., a list of eligibles), not for a specific job at a specific agency. The ALJ register is a list of applicants who are eligible for selection as an entry-level ALJ. It is used to make referrals, based on final scores and location choices, to agencies for employment consideration when they have entry level ALJ vacancies to fill. In order to be placed on the register, an applicant must meet the qualification requirements, successfully complete all components of the ALJ examination and receive a final numerical rating. - end - www.opm.gov/news/releases/2017/08/statement-from-the-us-office-of-personnel-management-regarding-the-2017-administrative-law-judge-examination-1/
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Post by foghorn on Aug 4, 2017 12:15:00 GMT -5
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Post by rp on Aug 4, 2017 12:15:38 GMT -5
foghorn -- that is the consensus on the thread link below. Bottom line: those with pending appeals likely should reapply. Also -- while there has been back and forth about what it means -- I think the consensus is that the current register will be refreshed with the new applicants. Reopening Existing Register
Also -- see gary's post in this thread. It directly addresses this: Post from Gary
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Post by foghorn on Aug 4, 2017 12:31:41 GMT -5
RP --got it. This announcement means an exam for total newbies or those who either didn't get an NOR or otherwise aren't on a register; if successful they get added to the existing register.
They have the option Pixie dexcribes in "Reopening the Existing Register" of a total redo, where the old register is shut down and it's a clean slate.
Either way, for those of us in appeal mode or who plain didn't get an NOR, it's another chance at the brass ring. Compared to the liklihood of a successful SI based appeal, I'll go for the retest.
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Post by rp on Aug 4, 2017 12:40:22 GMT -5
RP --got it. This announcement means an exam for total newbies or those who either didn't get an NOR or otherwise aren't on a register; if successful they get added to the existing register. They have the option Pixie dexcribes in "Reopening the Existing Register" of a total redo, where the old register is shut down and it's a clean slate. Either way, for those of us in appeal mode or who plain didn't get an NOR, it's another chance at the brass ring. Compared to the liklihood of a successful SI based appeal, I'll go for the retest. foghorn -- GOOD LUCK -- I am pulling for you!
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Post by acttwo on Aug 4, 2017 15:31:08 GMT -5
Dang it, Foghorn, I watch this and start puddling up again. Gotta work on my cynicism some more.
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Post by acttwo on Aug 4, 2017 15:32:43 GMT -5
RP --got it. This announcement means an exam for total newbies or those who either didn't get an NOR or otherwise aren't on a register; if successful they get added to the existing register. They have the option Pixie dexcribes in "Reopening the Existing Register" of a total redo, where the old register is shut down and it's a clean slate. Either way, for those of us in appeal mode or who plain didn't get an NOR, it's another chance at the brass ring. Compared to the liklihood of a successful SI based appeal, I'll go for the retest. Aw, heck, I'm in too! What's money? I don't have any to begin with. Now where did I leave that thumbdrive with the resume...
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Post by acttwo on Aug 5, 2017 0:08:40 GMT -5
Well, foghorn, since we are going to try again, I guess the band, and the t-shirts, are going to have to wait. Still love rocked out Opus, though. Might look for a shirt with him, just for Lolla, etc! Grab the Dramamine, we're getting back on the roller coaster!
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Post by foghorn on Aug 6, 2017 23:55:29 GMT -5
Well, foghorn , since we are going to try again, I guess the band, and the t-shirts, are going to have to wait. Still love rocked out Opus, though. Might look for a shirt with him, just for Lolla, etc! Grab the Dramamine, we're getting back on the roller coaster! Nah, I say we need Road tour jackets--the OPM ALJ test tour-- we already bagged the dates for the 2016 now it's 2017 We won't tempt providence by presuming, so we'll leave space for the next few--because--I can't speak for everyone --but I LOVE OPM & their Tests! I'd Test everyday if I could! Love it love it love it! Bring it one, I am soooo happy! but did Elvis ever have an SI? What were the Beatles NOR's? Lightweights! You bet we desrerve jackets. Sateen? Leather? HS style with the white or cream arms? Cut off jean style? I go for the latter with leather trim.
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Post by acttwo on Aug 7, 2017 0:08:09 GMT -5
DEFINITELY leather trim! And since it can be cool in the testing rooms, the jackets will be uniform of the day,everyday! Love, love, love tests! Bring'em on, OPM! We may need to leave room for some 2018 dates as well.
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Post by merlot on Aug 7, 2017 14:21:54 GMT -5
RP --got it. This announcement means an exam for total newbies or those who either didn't get an NOR or otherwise aren't on a register; if successful they get added to the existing register. They have the option Pixie dexcribes in "Reopening the Existing Register" of a total redo, where the old register is shut down and it's a clean slate. Either way, for those of us in appeal mode or who plain didn't get an NOR, it's another chance at the brass ring. Compared to the liklihood of a successful SI based appeal, I'll go for the retest. Aw, heck, I'm in too! What's money? I don't have any to begin with. Now where did I leave that thumbdrive with the resume... acttwo, foghorn, heck, I'm in too!! What's more money and time going down a black hole!
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