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Post by statman on Aug 24, 2017 20:38:35 GMT -5
I suspect that OPM wants to cut the number of appeals and this is a good way to do it.
Good Luck.
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Post by worrywart on Aug 24, 2017 20:54:34 GMT -5
Foghorn, I am confused. In no. 5 you say "you know the drill, same questions... Are you saying it will be the same test as 2016? That would be unfair to those who did not take it before, so I am not sure that true.
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Aug 24, 2017 22:31:41 GMT -5
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Post by ssa on Aug 24, 2017 22:31:41 GMT -5
Foghorn, I am confused. In no. 5 you say "you know the drill, same questions... Are you saying it will be the same test as 2016? That would be unfair to those who did not take it before, so I am not sure that true. Maybe not the exact same questions. But in general the process and type of questions will be the same. I think CW is that it is a definite (albeit maybe slight? Maybe significant? It really depends) advantage for those who have gone through the process already either in 2016 or 2013. The advantage is that you know more what to expect and perhaps can be better prepared. But there of course is the possibility as many have relayed that you'll get kicked out at any stage for some random reason.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 24, 2017 23:03:32 GMT -5
Foghorn, I am confused. In no. 5 you say "you know the drill, same questions... Are you saying it will be the same test as 2016? That would be unfair to those who did not take it before, so I am not sure that true. Maybe not the exact same questions. But in general the process and type of questions will be the same. I think CW is that it is a definite (albeit maybe slight? Maybe significant? It really depends) advantage for those who have gone through the process already either in 2016 or 2013. The advantage is that you know more what to expect and perhaps can be better prepared. But there of course is the possibility as many have relayed that you'll get kicked out at any stage for some random reason. SSA has it right--point is you've done the online tests, you've done the DC tests--even if you don't know why you didn't do well on whichever they said you didn't do well on, you know the drill. You know the type of tests, how they are set up.
You know what the testing room is like, you know where to park. It's a bit like the bar exam--you know the layout etc you can focus on the questions. They won't be exactly the same, but so that they have continuity my understanding is that the format is quite similar. Note there's a thread called : Success on retesting. Check it out.
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Post by aa7 on Aug 25, 2017 11:03:01 GMT -5
Anyone just gonna forgo reapplying and see what their appeal brings?
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Aug 25, 2017 12:09:48 GMT -5
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Post by grandparay1 on Aug 25, 2017 12:09:48 GMT -5
I am not applying again and will wait for the appeal decision. I do understand that winning the appeal is a long shot.
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Post by JudgeKnot on Aug 25, 2017 12:22:15 GMT -5
Anyone just gonna forgo reapplying and see what their appeal brings? I just posted a poll that hopes to gather this info, with other decisions.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 25, 2017 12:43:46 GMT -5
Do understand, as was related in a couple of posts yesterday, you can wait for the appeal--and get a thumbs down. Or you may find that your re-score has you near bottom.
Those of us re-applying (and new applicants) appreciate your willingness to roll the dice of the appeal based on a record you don't see.
I write because I get the vibe that some view the process as so grueling or terrible that they'd rather avoid it at all costs, even if that means pinning their hopes to the powerball odds of the appeal. Call me insensitive, but me at least it was no worse than any multiple choice type situation or any situation--as with most jobs--where you don't know why you got the thumbs down. The only difference was it was stretched over 15 months.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 25, 2017 12:54:08 GMT -5
Does this website have you covered? You betcha! If you were in the 2016 applicant pool but didn't get an NOR or otherwise didn't make cert, note the threat "I tried to apply"--there's a part of the instructions you need to read!
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Appealing
Aug 25, 2017 13:10:23 GMT -5
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Post by mango54 on Aug 25, 2017 13:10:23 GMT -5
Does this website have you covered? You betcha! If you were in the 2016 applicant pool but didn't get an NOR or otherwise didn't make cert, note the threat "I tried to apply"--there's a part of the instructions you need to read! I tried searching for the thread, but could not readily locate (may not be doing it correct). Would you post a link? Thanks for all your support!!
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Post by redryder on Aug 25, 2017 13:19:41 GMT -5
I read Foghorn's appeal experience. Having been in the federal workplace for 28+ years, I have learned that it does not matter what agency is reading your application. SSA or OPM. When grading your qualifications, no one will read into or try to interpret what you wrote to give it any expanded meaning. As a manager, I advised staff when filing applications for promotions. When asked about what your job involved, it was not enough to say you used a computer. You drafted (give specifics)using Microsoft Word, and created spread sheets using Excel. You used Outlook for email.
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Appealing
Aug 25, 2017 14:31:22 GMT -5
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Post by grandparay1 on Aug 25, 2017 14:31:22 GMT -5
I failed the written demonstration.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 25, 2017 15:51:05 GMT -5
Does this website have you covered? You betcha! If you were in the 2016 applicant pool but didn't get an NOR or otherwise didn't make cert, note the threat "I tried to apply"--there's a part of the instructions you need to read! I tried searching for the thread, but could not readily locate (may not be doing it correct). Would you post a link? Thanks for all your support!! Here you are--scroll to last few comments to see what had happened, what to do to avoid it: aljdiscussion.proboards.com/thread/4529/help-tried-reapply-takes-back
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Aug 25, 2017 16:38:19 GMT -5
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Post by mango54 on Aug 25, 2017 16:38:19 GMT -5
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Post by hope2017 on Aug 25, 2017 17:01:48 GMT -5
Goodbye appeal! Hello new application!
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Post by foghorn on Aug 25, 2017 17:05:22 GMT -5
Goodbye appeal! Hello new application! Brush that resume to a fine gloss, sister, and review your responses to the assessment questionnaire to highlight the thrilla 13 in your experience, not to mention the definitions of complex litigation of yore.
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Post by peanutfancy on Aug 25, 2017 17:27:38 GMT -5
One usually uses an apostrophe with contractions. I believe that "x'ed" is a contraction and therefore Pixie's use of the apostrophe is correct. Well, I have a new favorite board username. Yes, yes to the favorite board username.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 29, 2017 15:11:59 GMT -5
The world awaits, breathlessly, the rappin' rhymes of AL Cool J--not to mention their decisions in rap form.
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Post by frogalj on Aug 30, 2017 19:49:15 GMT -5
There is the old saying: old lawyers never die, they just lose their appeal.
So I am going to reapply.
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Aug 31, 2017 0:30:11 GMT -5
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Post by McLovin' on Aug 31, 2017 0:30:11 GMT -5
Do we have any members who plan to stick with their appeals?
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