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Post by jimmyjiggles on Jun 7, 2018 14:43:01 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? If you are referring to the BVA, there are many reports here: jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=143754Wow, that’s a sobering/depressing thread. I talked to some one a few months ago who left ssa for bva; he relayed many of the same concerns/complaints contained in the thread. Basically zero job security and lots of unpaid time/burning leave to make quota. Still if you can make it, you ladder to a 14. If nothing else pans out, I would consider doing this in the last phase of my fed career try to elevate my high 3 for FERS.
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Post by neufenland on Jun 7, 2018 14:59:55 GMT -5
Wow, that’s a sobering/depressing thread. I talked to some one a few months ago who left ssa for bva; he relayed many of the same concerns/complaints contained in the thread. Basically zero job security and lots of unpaid time/burning leave to make quota. Still if you can make it, you ladder to a 14. If nothing else pans out, I would consider doing this in the last phase of my fed career try to elevate my high 3 for FERS. 169 is challenging to meet, there’s no doubt. The number is a full 1/3 more than the previous FY.
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Post by aljwishhope on Jun 7, 2018 16:37:09 GMT -5
1st world problems! Just got email for interview Office of Appellate Operatoons, SSA for telephone interview next week.
This is job that closed April 27 hiring 30 attorneys for falls church and Baltimore.
They plan to onboard new employees late July or early August.
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Post by merlot on Jun 7, 2018 16:46:04 GMT -5
1st world problems! Just got email for interview Office of Appellate Operatoons, SSA for telephone interview next week. This is job that closed April 27 hiring 30 attorneys for falls church and Baltimore. They plan to onboard new employees late July or early August. Congratulations!!! Nice to have options. Well done 😀
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Post by hope2018 on Jun 7, 2018 17:41:10 GMT -5
The GS 11 paycut is too painful though.
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Post by jimmyjiggles on Jun 7, 2018 18:21:29 GMT -5
1st world problems! Just got email for interview Office of Appellate Operatoons, SSA for telephone interview next week. This is job that closed April 27 hiring 30 attorneys for falls church and Baltimore. They plan to onboard new employees late July or early August. When it rains it pours! Looks like you have mastered applying to fed jobs at least. Hope the AC interview goes well for you - good luck!
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Post by jimmyjiggles on Jun 7, 2018 18:30:38 GMT -5
Wow, that’s a sobering/depressing thread. I talked to some one a few months ago who left ssa for bva; he relayed many of the same concerns/complaints contained in the thread. Basically zero job security and lots of unpaid time/burning leave to make quota. Still if you can make it, you ladder to a 14. If nothing else pans out, I would consider doing this in the last phase of my fed career try to elevate my high 3 for FERS. 169 is challenging to meet, there’s no doubt. The number is a full 1/3 more than the previous FY. Wow, that’s a substantial increase. Much respect to you folks over there, lots more issues than SSA, and, god help you, you have to read VA medical records all day. You should get a 14 just for that!! I’ve never seen that board before. Pretty illuminating into how brutal the market is for lawyers. When I graduated, I’d never heard of doing doc review. You went to work for the PD, DA, or one of the firms in town. Now doc review is like the default post grad job. Certainly makes me thankful for how things have turned out for me (so far).
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Post by neufenland on Jun 8, 2018 6:13:19 GMT -5
169 is challenging to meet, there’s no doubt. The number is a full 1/3 more than the previous FY. Wow, that’s a substantial increase. Much respect to you folks over there, lots more issues than SSA, and, god help you, you have to read VA medical records all day. You should get a 14 just for that!! I’ve never seen that board before. Pretty illuminating into how brutal the market is for lawyers. When I graduated, I’d never heard of doing doc review. You went to work for the PD, DA, or one of the firms in town. Now doc review is like the default post grad job. Certainly makes me thankful for how things have turned out for me (so far). Fortunately, I’m not with the Board anymore. I’m one of the senior attorneys who bailed, and I was just very lucky that another agency tossed me a life raft. I liked helping veterans and I even got to do some Acting VLJ work while I was there, which was great personal and professional experience (got to conduct hearings and interact with the vets, which I very much enjoyed). The stress really got tough over the last year, though. It was time to move on. My current gig promotes to a 15, so assuming I don’t screw-up and end up homeless and begging for doc review gigs, the move was a plus on several levels. So far, I really like my new place, so fingers crossed for a nice long tenure.
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Post by floridagirl on Jun 8, 2018 8:47:51 GMT -5
I was just referred to the hiring manager at four EEOC locations for the Attorney Examiner (Administrative Judge) positions. Does anyone else have any information on this process?
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Post by aljwishhope on Jun 8, 2018 9:09:52 GMT -5
Congrats! No info but good luck.
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Post by qwk01 on Jun 8, 2018 10:09:31 GMT -5
I was just referred to the hiring manager at four EEOC locations for the Attorney Examiner (Administrative Judge) positions. Does anyone else have any information on this process? Congrats! I don't have any info, unfortunately. If you don't mind me asking, when did these positions close? I applied for a Trial Attorney position for EEOC that closed on 5/21 and the status is still showing "received". I'm hoping it's on the same time frame as the AE positions and I'll hear something soon. edited: I think I found my answer. I searched the thread and found the listing that closed May 9th.
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Post by merlot on Jun 8, 2018 10:11:26 GMT -5
I was just referred to the hiring manager at four EEOC locations for the Attorney Examiner (Administrative Judge) positions. Does anyone else have any information on this process? No info. Congratulations!! Nice to see such good news on this board!!
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Post by gbrlaw on Jun 8, 2018 10:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by merlot on Jun 8, 2018 10:36:40 GMT -5
Wow, too cold for these old bones!
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Post by gary on Jun 8, 2018 11:00:59 GMT -5
Wow, too cold for these old bones! When “on-ice” the job is in Antarctica. In a huge concession to that: “Relocation MAY be authorized contingent upon the availability of funds.”
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 8, 2018 11:05:50 GMT -5
Location Negotiable After Selection, United States
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Post by foghorn on Jun 8, 2018 17:09:00 GMT -5
I was just referred to the hiring manager at four EEOC locations for the Attorney Examiner (Administrative Judge) positions. Does anyone else have any information on this process? Congratulations! There are some who have worked for EEOC on this or other threads. Use the search function. I recall someone who'd done the job saying it's good, you aren't called an ALJ but are in effect an ALJ. Go for it! Start your own thread is another option.
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Post by hherman on Jun 9, 2018 13:57:20 GMT -5
I was just referred to the hiring manager at four EEOC locations for the Attorney Examiner (Administrative Judge) positions. Does anyone else have any information on this process? Me, too. Also curious if anyone has any real-world experience to share about this gig. I know that there are many applicants for these positions. Sometimes the applicants are internal such as EEOC trial attorneys who want to be an AJ. So it can be pretty competitive. Any specific questions?
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Post by hherman on Jun 10, 2018 18:59:46 GMT -5
Do the incumbents like the work? Is it high-volume number-chasing, or are the cases more substantial? I think most like the work. It is both high-volume number-chasing and substantive. The cases are diverse and interesting, and the AJs feel like the work is meaningful. But there is a very large backlog of cases so there is a push to reduce inventory. How that looks in the day to day work depends on which district you are in and who supervises you. But I think that most supervisors give a lot of autonomy as long as the AJs are meeting goals. However, it is expected that goals can be met in a 40 hour week which I think would be difficult. Because it is expected that the job can be done in a 40 hour week, there isn't comp time if it takes you longer than that unless, for example, you are at a hearing that runs into the evening.
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Post by foghorn on Jun 11, 2018 12:15:10 GMT -5
Comp time.....in a legal job......com....sorry, I was off in a reverie. Back to reality. On the road at 7 for a pretrial 2 counties over at 9:00 sharp. At least the Honorable didn't schedule it for 8 or 8:30a.m.
comp time.....what a nice idea. Must be wonderful......
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