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Post by JudgeKnot on Jun 6, 2018 11:42:09 GMT -5
Congratulations aljwishhope and I hope you make the best decision for yourself.
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Post by acttwo on Jun 6, 2018 11:43:46 GMT -5
Congratulations aljwishhope and I hope you make the best decision for yourself. Ditto! Hope it works out as you wish!
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Post by merlot on Jun 6, 2018 12:33:52 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? Congratulations!! I have no insight to offer. Wishing you all the best!
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Post by desert2beach on Jun 6, 2018 13:04:17 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? At my agency, overtime is possible, but only when authorized by someone very senior in my organization in Washington, DC. I am excepted service.
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Post by mercury on Jun 6, 2018 13:27:55 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? If you are referring to the BVA, there are many reports here: jdunderground.com/all/thread.php?threadId=143754
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Post by Prrple on Jun 6, 2018 13:55:18 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? If your goal is an administrative bench, taking this position will get you experience with this agency which has its own administrative process and does not hire from the register when it hires judges. They hire VLJs (Veterans Law Judges) instead of ALJs.
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Post by Prrple on Jun 6, 2018 13:55:40 GMT -5
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Post by blondswede on Jun 6, 2018 17:04:26 GMT -5
Does proof of an active law license matter? I applied for one of the jobs discussed in this thread. The posting included proof of an active law license among the required documents. Though I scanned my bar card and made a screen-shot of the state’s licensure verification page, I neglected to upload this proof to USA Jobs, much less attach it to my application. Today I was surprised to receive notification that I was qualified for the job and referred to the hiring agency. Question(s): Do the application-screeners care about proof of licensure? Is it likely that the hiring agency kick me out the running? Or, did lightning strike twice, and the person who reviewed this application was the same person who let me test for the ALJ exam even though my application omitted the day of my bar admission? You did luck out. I only had my 2017 bar card (the 2018 card came in the mail days after I applied to several AA jobs), and I was rejected because my proof wasn't dated 2018. Crap.
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 6, 2018 19:40:39 GMT -5
I attach the screen shot to a declaration executed under penalty of perjury, combined into a single Portable Document Format (PDF) file.
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Post by A.L. Cool J on Jun 6, 2018 20:28:19 GMT -5
So, it's luck. I'll take it and not look back. May luck be a lady and not leave her gentleman.
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Post by neufenland on Jun 7, 2018 6:46:27 GMT -5
Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? You can get overtime after you’ve worked at the Board for a while, but keep in mind that those cases do not count for your annual goal (quota). I think we’ve chatted about the position in PM before. I’ve offered before, but if anyone else wants to know more about the Board, please send me a PM.
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 7, 2018 10:05:18 GMT -5
Overtime & productivity accounting Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? If your goal is an administrative bench, taking this position will get you experience with this agency which has its own administrative process and does not hire from the register when it hires judges. They hire VLJs (Veterans Law Judges) instead of ALJs. You can get overtime after you’ve worked at the Board [of Veterans Appeals] for a while , but keep in mind that those cases do not count for your annual goal (quota). I’ve offered before, but if anyone else wants to know more about the Board, please send me a PM. There is a certain logic to not counting, for annual goal purposes, cases completed (worked on?) during overtime. In that situation, does BVA keep separate statistics for overtime production that are available to the employee? Are similar policies and statistical reports in effect at HHS OMHA and at SSA OHO?
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Post by odarwinian on Jun 7, 2018 10:12:15 GMT -5
At OHO, the writers don't have "quotas" per se, but our production is measured by taking the ratio of cases completed to time worked. Any overtime worked is folded into that equation. The Regional Offices track work completed on overtime to ensure it is being used appropriately, so we do have to report what we worked on during OT hours.
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Post by gary on Jun 7, 2018 10:16:06 GMT -5
At OHO, the writers don't have "quotas" per se, but our production is measured by taking the ratio of cases completed to time worked. Any overtime worked is folded into that equation. The Regional Offices track work completed on overtime to ensure it is being used appropriately, so we do have to report what we worked on during OT hours. Sounds like a more sophisticated quota.
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 7, 2018 10:16:37 GMT -5
Using a ratio that takes time into account avoids superfluous record keeping and issues classifying cases worked on during dual time statuses.
Smart move, OHO.
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Post by foghorn on Jun 7, 2018 10:37:12 GMT -5
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Post by odarwinian on Jun 7, 2018 10:42:40 GMT -5
Using a ratio that takes time into account avoids superfluous record keeping and issues classifying cases worked on during dual time statuses. Smart move, OHO. In theory, it seems like a good system. There are, of course, always issues with calculating how much time each case should be worth, how to account for non-writing time (which I don't believe we do anymore), and reaching an agreement as to what a "successful" production percentage should be. No system is perfect, but I think OHO tries to be fair in determining how to measure productivity.
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Post by odarwinian on Jun 7, 2018 10:45:00 GMT -5
At OHO, the writers don't have "quotas" per se, but our production is measured by taking the ratio of cases completed to time worked. Any overtime worked is folded into that equation. The Regional Offices track work completed on overtime to ensure it is being used appropriately, so we do have to report what we worked on during OT hours. Sounds like a more sophisticated quota. LOL! That's why I added the "per se".
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Post by neufenland on Jun 7, 2018 10:57:34 GMT -5
Overtime & productivity accounting Government hiring oh boy. Long ago I got a rejection for a VA job. Today I got a tentative offer by email. I have until tomorrow to decide! Good to know that I have not aged out of getting offers. Will sleep on decision. I welcome any thoughts from VA attorneys.Salary even negotiated is low. Is there overtime? If your goal is an administrative bench, taking this position will get you experience with this agency which has its own administrative process and does not hire from the register when it hires judges. They hire VLJs (Veterans Law Judges) instead of ALJs. You can get overtime after you’ve worked at the Board [of Veterans Appeals] for a while , but keep in mind that those cases do not count for your annual goal (quota). I’ve offered before, but if anyone else wants to know more about the Board, please send me a PM. There is a certain logic to not counting, for annual goal purposes, cases completed (worked on?) during overtime. In that situation, does BVA keep separate statistics for overtime production that are available to the employee? Are similar policies and statistical reports in effect at HHS OMHA and at SSA OHO? Each Board attorney has to write 169 decisions or remand orders per fiscal year. I should say, come October 1st, each attorney must have 169 case dispositions signed by a VLJ. It isn’t enough to have them submitted and not signed. That is adjusted for leave, though. There’s a case tracker spreadsheet where the adjusted quota is reported (you enter in your leave for each pay period and it changes the goal downward), so each counsel and his/her Chief VLJ can track progress. The 169 is for non-overtime cases. Anything done on overtime doesn’t count for purposes of making your annual quota. Those cases count for the Board’s overall numbers, but not the attorney’s (but the attorney gets the overtime pay, of course).
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Post by neufenland on Jun 7, 2018 11:08:38 GMT -5
At OHO, the writers don't have "quotas" per se, but our production is measured by taking the ratio of cases completed to time worked. Any overtime worked is folded into that equation. The Regional Offices track work completed on overtime to ensure it is being used appropriately, so we do have to report what we worked on during OT hours. At the Board, you have a hard quota, but it is adjusted for leave. If you took no leave, it’s 169 cases (might be a bit less, because I think federal holidays are also reasons for adjustment). Thus, no one has to really do 169, but if you’re new to the feds and don’t earn a lot of leave, or you are the type to not take a lot, your number is higher. Also, a case is a case. A dismissal/withdrawn appeal takes 20 minutes and it is one case. A 4,000 document case with 22 different issues takes the better part of a week and is also one case.
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