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Post by bobsmith on May 19, 2020 7:48:04 GMT -5
Finally, a non-immigration Judge posting  Administrative Appeals Judge for the Department of Health and Human Services, Departmental Appeals Board. Open & closing dates 05/19/2020 to 05/29/2020 Few vacancies in Washington, D.C. www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/568687700#required-documentsPlease note: there appears to be no qualifying factors that needs to be submitted with the application, as compared to IJ postings. Good luck! |
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Post by intothewild on May 19, 2020 13:01:46 GMT -5
Finally, a non-immigration Judge posting Administrative Appeals Judge for the Department of Health and Human Services, Departmental Appeals Board. Open & closing dates 05/19/2020 to 05/29/2020 Few vacancies in Washington, D.C. www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/568687700#required-documentsPlease note: there appears to be no qualifying factors that needs to be submitted with the application, as compared to IJ postings. Good luck! Of course it is in DC! |
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Post by grassgreener on May 19, 2020 15:03:19 GMT -5
Anyone have any insight into this position?
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Post by foghorn on May 20, 2020 11:50:33 GMT -5
Note: it requires : "a minimum of seven (7) years administrative law and/or litigation experience involving formal administrative hearing proceedings before local, State, or Federal administrative agencies, courts, or other administrative bodies. (Note: Formal hearings are defined as proceedings conducted on the record under procedures at least as formal as those prescribed by the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. §§ 553 through 559"
This basically means 7 years of litigation which may be administrative. It is more fully explained in the body:
qualifying litigation experience involves cases in which a complaint was filed with a court, or a charging document (e.g., indictment or information) was issued by a court, a grand jury, or appropriate military authority, and includes:
Participating in settlement or plea negotiations in advance of trial;
Preparing for trial and/or trial of cases;
Preparing opinions;
Hearing cases;
Participating in or conducting arbitration, mediation, or other alternative dispute resolution approved by the court; or
Participating in appeals conducted on the record under procedures at least as formal as those prescribed by the Administrative Procedure Act, 5 U.S.C. §§ 553 through 559.
Qualifying administrative law experience involves cases in which a formal procedure was initiated by a governmental administrative body or a private organization or individual and includes:
Participating in settlement negotiations in advance of hearing cases;
Preparing for hearing and/or trial of cases;
Preparing opinions;
Hearing cases;
Participating in or conducting arbitration, mediation, or other alternative dispute resolution approved by the administrative body; or
Participating in appeals related to the types of cases above.
Non-qualifying Experience - Experience involving cases with no formal hearing procedures and uncontested cases involving misdemeanors, probate, domestic relations, or similar uncontested.
Desired Skills and Experience:
Demonstrated experience in high volume adjudication or litigation at the Federal, State or Local level.
Demonstrated ability to quickly and effectively master complex, diverse, and changing areas of law, building on existing familiarity with administrative law generally.
Excellence in legal writing involving complex legal issues, particularly interpretation and application of statutory or regulatory language, demonstrated in unedited writing samples.
Demonstrated team-building and leadership skills in professional settings, particularly in building consensus on difficult topics, in working cooperatively with peers, and in mentoring and developing attorneys.
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Post by aljwishhope on May 22, 2020 9:44:16 GMT -5
Does anyone know of anyone who was hired when this position was open last fall??
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Post by SPN Lifer on May 22, 2020 16:58:06 GMT -5
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Post by kylearan on May 26, 2020 16:08:26 GMT -5
I reckon I’ll apply. Might as well give the Headquarters people a good laugh here in the midst of all this coronavirus gloom.
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Post by foghorn on May 26, 2020 17:09:53 GMT -5
I could say it's very appealing.......but that would be ...wrong.
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Post by jagvet on May 26, 2020 19:19:56 GMT -5
So,... they want sloppy judges?
".....unedited writing samples."
In other words, send us your first drafts! LOL!
And, of course, we all know that this stuff is easy and routine:
"Non-qualifying Experience - Experience involving cases with no formal hearing procedures and uncontested cases involving misdemeanors, probate, domestic relations, or similar uncontested."
In other words, you must already be in the good ol' boys club.
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Post by roymcavoy on May 29, 2020 2:37:48 GMT -5
So,... they want sloppy judges? ".....unedited writing samples." In other words, send us your first drafts! LOL! And, of course, we all know that this stuff is easy and routine: "Non-qualifying Experience - Experience involving cases with no formal hearing procedures and uncontested cases involving misdemeanors, probate, domestic relations, or similar uncontested." In other words, you must already be in the good ol' boys club. Talk about disconnect in hiring: it makes me laugh when I read “domestic relations” referred to as “uncontested.” Anyone who has ever represented either side of a family law case or prosecuted/defended any case involving criminal charges related to a domestic relationship knows that those are the MOST contested cases in a courthouse. Every single motion is a war. |
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Post by foghorn on May 29, 2020 17:27:01 GMT -5
I believe unedited means, in context, that either someone else did not cooperate in writing it or....that you haven't taken an old sample, seen some forgettable phrasings, and given the writing a buff 'n shine.
I could be wrong, but I don't think they are that dense. Note also, there are some who handle thousands of uncontested collection cases. I don't think that's the "heavy caseload" they are looking for.
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Post by nylawyer on May 29, 2020 21:37:56 GMT -5
So,... they want sloppy judges? ".....unedited writing samples." In other words, send us your first drafts! LOL! And, of course, we all know that this stuff is easy and routine: "Non-qualifying Experience - Experience involving cases with no formal hearing procedures and uncontested cases involving misdemeanors, probate, domestic relations, or similar uncontested." In other words, you must already be in the good ol' boys club. Talk about disconnect in hiring: it makes me laugh when I read “domestic relations” referred to as “uncontested.” Anyone who has ever represented either side of a family law case or prosecuted/defended any case involving criminal charges related to a domestic relationship knows that those are the MOST contested cases in a courthouse. Every single motion is a war. I actually volunteered at a clinic briefly where I was trained to do uncontested domestic cases. As in, woman wants to divorce the husband she hasn't seen or heard from in 20 years and has no idea if he is alive or dead and may not know his real name. Now, an uncontested misdemeanor? I can imagine a misdemeanor that is only slightly contested. But uncontested? |
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Post by bobsmith on Jun 1, 2020 5:43:23 GMT -5
Weird, I just got a notice basically stating you are eligible and that I Might be referred.
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 1, 2020 10:56:35 GMT -5
That is a Job Vacancy Announcement Closure notice, combined with an Eligibility notice.
I have occasionally received them for other applications over the years.
Referral notices will follow in due course.
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Post by bobsmith on Jun 2, 2020 6:48:53 GMT -5
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Post by bobsmith on Jun 2, 2020 17:58:58 GMT -5
Did anyone else get this today for the Administrative appeals judge posting:
Your application was found qualified and was referred to the Executive Resources Board (ERB) for further consideration.
What does this mean and how long does this take?
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jun 2, 2020 19:35:15 GMT -5
First comes eligibility. Then comes referral for consideration. Eventually if we are lucky, an interview. Perhaps preceded by online tests?
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Post by njhandygirl on Jun 2, 2020 19:55:41 GMT -5
I also know someone who received this email today. Good luck everyone! Did anyone else get this today for the Administrative appeals judge posting: Your application was found qualified and was referred to the Executive Resources Board (ERB) for further consideration. What does this mean and how long does this take? |
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Post by natethegreat on Jun 3, 2020 6:42:45 GMT -5
Is anyone who received the referral letters a current Fed below the GS-14 level? Like all things associated with federal hiring, it is sufficiently vague, but I had been led to believe on vacancies open to the public, time-in-grade was not an issue. However, I received a "time in grade" denial letter, as did a colleague of mine.
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Post by natethegreat on Jun 3, 2020 12:21:21 GMT -5
Is anyone who received the referral letters a current Fed below the GS-14 level? Like all things associated with federal hiring, it is sufficiently vague, but I had been led to believe on vacancies open to the public, time-in-grade was not an issue. However, I received a "time in grade" denial letter, as did a colleague of mine. The announcement states: "Qualification Requirements: To be considered, applicants must possess a minimum of 1 year of experience at or above the equivalent of the GS-14 grade level in the Federal service or its equivalent with state and local government, the private sector, or non-governmental organizations. Failure to meet this basic qualification requirement and all technical qualification factors will automatically exclude you from further consideration."Not sure that is sufficiently vague. My comment on being vague is referring to the general topic of time-in-grade and its applicability for internal versus open to public vacancy. I have seen that language, but I wonder how do they determine what private sector experience is equivalent to GS14? My guess is, basically anyone non-Fed with 7 years of qualifying private sector experience will get further in the process than any current Fed at gs13 or below regardless of how extensive their experience is. |
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