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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 7, 2020 16:17:05 GMT -5
If an employee is not provided an essential credential for work, is that a constructive RIF? As in a PIV card necessary to operate my government work computer.
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Post by ssaogc on Sept 7, 2020 20:41:04 GMT -5
If you are still drawing full check you are on administrative leave. If not getting check then it is a constructive suspension
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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 8, 2020 15:55:12 GMT -5
If you are still drawing full check you are on administrative leave. If not getting check then it is a constructive suspension  |
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 8, 2020 18:55:17 GMT -5
My ID would occasionally stop scanning at the entrance to my last office, and I would wonder every time if I'd been fired.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 8, 2020 21:52:24 GMT -5
It seems like such a simple thing, an updated ID card.😥
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Post by ssaogc on Sept 8, 2020 22:11:01 GMT -5
If you are still drawing full check you are on administrative leave. If not getting check then it is a constructive suspension If she's getting paid, she's likely just on duty (but doing nothing) unless the agency actually places her on administrative leave. It's an actual suspension when the agency stops her pay or makes her take leave (aka enforced leave). A constructive suspension is when an employee initiates her own absence but she lacked a meaningful choice and the absence was caused by the agency's improper actions. It's leave that appears to be voluntary but actually isn't. Common examples of constructive suspensions include an employee taking leave because of intolerable working conditions and an agency failing to provide an available reasonable accommodation when an employee is ready to return to duty. A RIF is an administrative process defined in OPM regulations by which an agency eliminates jobs for certain listed reasons. If you are on administrative leave you are being paid to do nothing. Have you been with agency long? Our nervous nelly managers would never certify a member working on webta when they have not worked. They will however gladly approve adm leave. I know my laptop went caput for two weeks and I had to wait for one to come in the mail and the new one would not worK. Yep, administrative leave for two weeks. you have narrow narrow view of a constructive suspension definition. A constructive suspension can certainly happen in the manner you describe but if you are locked out of building, or in this case not given access to systems and you complain and are ignored and do not get paid, that is a constructive suspension. For an actual suspension to take place you have to be told orally or in written form, you are suspended. Sort of like implied breech of contract and express Breach of a contract. Both implied and actual suspensions have same result, you forfeit pay for days not actually worked because you took leave or because you cannot get into building or access systems. |
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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 9, 2020 22:45:40 GMT -5
To update my PIV situation. I received a call on my cell phone while on leave this week. I was told a temporary PIV card, good for 180 days, will be mailed to me. The person said that until the offices open I would receive this temporary card, and another in 180 days.
Does that mean we are not opening until after March or ...?
Oddly, I was then asked to provide my ID and my password over the phone. I declined. I asked for the person's name and was provided only a first name. So who knows what this is about. All of this could just be the prelude to an email from a Prince requesting me to mail a check to a PO box. Or worse yet, a shopping spree through the private information held in our system.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Sept 10, 2020 22:20:48 GMT -5
Is anyone else having to replace their ID during this time? How has it been accomplished? Are the offices open for that brief purpose? Send me a message if you don't wish to post.
I completed the requirements for a permanent card in February. Unfortunately, that card was sent to an office I had not worked at since 2018. By the time it was forwarded, but lost again before I got it, COVID-19 was in full force.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Feb 22, 2021 23:16:37 GMT -5
Is this not predictable or what? It will soon be six months since my LAST temporary PIV card was issued with direct order from my GS to provide my credentials (including password) to a contractor in Baltimore. Again I am told the offices are closed and it is agency policy that no one can make an appointment to get a permanent PIV card issued, and I will likely have to provide my credentials again. Isn't there another way to do this so that my password is not shared? Ironically, this comes about 2 weeks after mandatory training on Information Security, training that included caution to NEVER give the password you select to anyone. Any info. from other agencies about how this is done? |
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Post by ok1956 on Feb 23, 2021 7:18:52 GMT -5
Is this not predictable or what? It will soon be six months since my LAST temporary PIV card was issued with direct order from my GS to provide my credentials (including password) to a contractor in Baltimore. Again I am told the offices are closed and it is agency policy that no one can make an appointment to get a permanent PIV card issued, and I will likely have to provide my credentials again. Isn't there another way to do this so that my password is not shared? Ironically, this comes about 2 weeks after mandatory training on Information Security, training that included caution to NEVER give the password you select to anyone. Any info. from other agencies about how this is done? Our management goes into the office to deal with mail and such. I met one of our GSs at the office and received my new card. |
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Post by hopefalj on Feb 23, 2021 7:29:37 GMT -5
Is this not predictable or what? It will soon be six months since my LAST temporary PIV card was issued with direct order from my GS to provide my credentials (including password) to a contractor in Baltimore. Again I am told the offices are closed and it is agency policy that no one can make an appointment to get a permanent PIV card issued, and I will likely have to provide my credentials again. Isn't there another way to do this so that my password is not shared? Ironically, this comes about 2 weeks after mandatory training on Information Security, training that included caution to NEVER give the password you select to anyone. Any info. from other agencies about how this is done? Our management goes into the office to deal with mail and such. I met one of our GSs at the office and received my new card. I did the same without issue with our HOD. |
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Post by stevil on Feb 23, 2021 7:38:01 GMT -5
Don't know about all this, but my advice is to keep your red stapler close at hand.............
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Post by 2rvrrun on Feb 23, 2021 10:48:13 GMT -5
Thanks, I had to look up the red stapler. Could be the situation because I was just asked whether I need training from another AA because apparently I am not producing 95%. This after 11 years with SSA and being #1 producer in office last year and many other years.
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Post by christina on Feb 23, 2021 13:42:11 GMT -5
Thanks, I had to look up the red stapler. Could be the situation because I was just asked whether I need training from another AA because apparently I am not producing 95%. This after 11 years with SSA and being #1 producer in office last year and many other years. Ugh send me a note if u want to talk |
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Post by lurkerbelow on Feb 23, 2021 21:12:43 GMT -5
What is SSA's stance on the impact of full-time telework on the performance standards?
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Post by places2go on Feb 24, 2021 21:41:09 GMT -5
[/quote]It does. My agency announced ours would be extended somehow without needing to be updated by that little machine. Who knows if that'll actually happen?[/quote]
I got a temp ID 5-6 months ago and just got notice it’s expiring soon. Management said they’ll be mailing replacement temp cards soon. I had no problems logging on with the temp card.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Feb 24, 2021 23:35:08 GMT -5
It does. My agency announced ours would be extended somehow without needing to be updated by that little machine. Who knows if that'll actually happen?[/quote] I got a temp ID 5-6 months ago and just got notice it’s expiring soon. Management said they’ll be mailing replacement temp cards soon. I had no problems logging on with the temp card. [/quote] I received a temp card in September and have had no problem logging in with it. Did you have to provide your password (not userID) in order to get the temp card? |
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Post by places2go on Feb 25, 2021 10:26:54 GMT -5
I received a temp card in September and have had no problem logging in with it.
Did you have to provide your password (not userID) in order to get the temp card?  [/quote]
We just made sure the HOD had the address to mail it to. To set up the card we were given instructions or could call. I did it myself so I never gave anyone my pin. I think I needed my 6-digit ID and pin for the PIV card to activate the temp card.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Mar 4, 2021 23:39:14 GMT -5
Okay, I have a new one for you. In this time of COVID does an email constitute a "meeting" for purposes of AWT? Or are meetings limited to audio communication? Does the answer depend more on content rather than method of conveyance? At what point does the tail start wagging the dog? If productivity is slowed by responding to emails or phone calls does the discussion consume the task? Where is the red stapler? |
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