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Post by foghorn on Mar 23, 2021 22:44:16 GMT -5
My bet is that Corona Virus or no, video hearings will be here for a while. Attorneys don't have to travel, the administration can slot judges all over the place, administrators will love it. Myself, I like to be present, better eye contact even if you can't see the face. Handups to the bench are easier, too. But that's me.
Looking ahead, people who get into the finer points might want to check out a series of meetings the Administrative Conference is having on video hearings:
www.acus.gov/meetings-and-events/committee-meeting/april-13-2021-first-committee-meeting-virtual-hearings-agency
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Post by FrogEsq on Mar 24, 2021 7:19:15 GMT -5
Recently received an email from the HOCALJ requesting Standing orders for the OVR process.
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 24, 2021 8:14:51 GMT -5
Recently received an email from the HOCALJ requesting Standing orders for the OVR process. Standing order #1- All parties must wear pants Standing order #2- Unless relevant to the facts of the case, cameras should at no point be aimed up nostrils. Standing order #3- No one may record me; in the event this rule is going to be ignored, then I must be shot in flattering lighting and exclusively on my good side (TBD) |
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Post by tripper on Mar 24, 2021 12:22:36 GMT -5
I had my first video hearing yesterday and it added nothing of value. The claimant was backlit from a window so hard to see well. Half the time I had the Teams window covered with another program anyway. What do other people think?
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Post by jagvet on Mar 24, 2021 13:18:15 GMT -5
I think it a total farce to favor video over phone hearings. We will be doing it because it's "cooler," not because it adds anything. It is certainly more complex and likely to cause more delays and confusion than telephone.
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 24, 2021 13:29:12 GMT -5
I think it a total farce to favor video over phone hearings. We will be doing it because it's "cooler," not because it adds anything. It is certainly more complex and likely to cause more delays and confusion than telephone. I haven't done any video hearings through MS Teams yet. But I have done many video hearings in the past and I would have to say they were somewhat preferable to phone hearings, mostly because it can be easier to understand what someone is saying at times if you can see them. But I don't know if we would really see that benefit with MS Teams, and I am definitely anticipating some downside. |
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Post by okthen on Mar 24, 2021 13:41:27 GMT -5
I had my first video hearing yesterday and it added nothing of value. The claimant was backlit from a window so hard to see well. Half the time I had the Teams window covered with another program anyway. What do other people think? I loved it. Audio was way better than Avaya. Video quality was good enough that I didn’t have any complaints. My claimant and rep were both easily visible. As for you covering up your screen with other programs, that seems more like a technology issue. I assume you have two monitors since the Agency will let you use two agency ones now? If you put the MS team on the laptop (third screen) you should not be missing out on anything/real estate. |
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Post by ok1956 on Mar 24, 2021 16:51:34 GMT -5
I had my first video hearing yesterday and it added nothing of value. The claimant was backlit from a window so hard to see well. Half the time I had the Teams window covered with another program anyway. What do other people think? I loved it. Audio was way better than Avaya. Video quality was good enough that I didn’t have any complaints. My claimant and rep were both easily visible. As for you covering up your screen with other programs, that seems more like a technology issue. I assume you have two monitors since the Agency will let you use two agency ones now? If you put the MS team on the laptop (third screen) you should not be missing out on anything/real estate. I tried using an agency monitor. Our IT couldn’t make it work without me losing the use of my mouse. For my mock hearing I just used a split screen on my laptop and my personal monitor for the 3-screen option. |
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Post by pumpkin on Mar 24, 2021 18:17:40 GMT -5
Recently received an email from the HOCALJ requesting Standing orders for the OVR process. Standing order #1- All parties must wear pants Standing order #2- Unless relevant to the facts of the case, cameras should at no point be aimed up nostrils. Standing order #3- No one may record me; in the event this rule is going to be ignored, then I must be shot in flattering lighting and exclusively on my good side (TBD) Standing Order #4 - No Cat Face Filters The Agency soliciting standing orders from ALJs? That must be some kind of early April Fool’s Day joke. |
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Post by Baymax on Mar 30, 2021 6:46:23 GMT -5
I’ve had several OVHs now and it depends on where the parties are. The best ones were where the claimant and rep were in a conference room together. The worst by far was a claimant who was holding the phone/camera so close to his face all I could see was from the bridge of his nose to his eyebrows; then there was the case using the telephone interpreter who must have been in a mall or store as there was a ton of background noise, and the claimant couldn’t hear her - she had to keep bribing the phone to her ear, so I got a great view of either her ears or her eyebrows, and not much else, making the video totally useless.
I’ve done a ton of zoom meetings for non-work related activities, and I’ve rarely seen a similar level of problems.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 30, 2021 11:45:24 GMT -5
Standing order #1- All parties must wear pants Standing order #2- Unless relevant to the facts of the case, cameras should at no point be aimed up nostrils. Standing order #3- No one may record me; in the event this rule is going to be ignored, then I must be shot in flattering lighting and exclusively on my good side (TBD) The Agency soliciting standing orders from ALJs? That must be some kind of early April Fool’s Day joke. I actually have a cat face filter. The few times I have used it, no one has batted an eye. Although, I try especially hard to not be catty when I am using it. Pixie |
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Post by Pixie on Mar 30, 2021 11:46:47 GMT -5
Baymax Welcome back; it has been a while. Pixie
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Post by Baymax on Apr 26, 2021 6:06:39 GMT -5
Baymax Welcome back; it has been a while. Pixie Thanks Pixie. Now that I’ve almost run out of cases to prep, I figured I had some time to rejoin my colleagues here. :-) |
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