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Post by intothewild on Jun 8, 2021 16:02:32 GMT -5
Probably a gs12 SSA writer's only chance at a non-supervisory 13. In 3 years I'm either unemployed, I'm a 13 at HHS, or in 20 years I'm still a 12 at SSA. Do I roll the dice? This is one of those very few jobs that SSA decision writer experience might be considered relevant. If I was a GS 12 at SSA I would definitely take the risk of jumping into this gig at HHS. |
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Post by fowlfinder on Jun 8, 2021 17:42:33 GMT -5
Probably a gs12 SSA writer's only chance at a non-supervisory 13. In 3 years I'm either unemployed, I'm a 13 at HHS, or in 20 years I'm still a 12 at SSA. Do I roll the dice? This is one of those very few jobs that SSA decision writer experience might be considered relevant. If I was a GS 12 at SSA I would definitely take the risk of jumping into this gig at HHS. If you end up unemployed after the 3 year term at HHS, are you more hireable having had the HHS experience than if you just stayed at SSA? Would the HHS position open up more private sector possibilities for you? If the answer is yes, then it might be a way to get out of the SSA decision writer circle, even if you aren't kept on at HHS. That is if you want to get out of that circle. |
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Post by intothewild on Jun 8, 2021 19:05:10 GMT -5
If I was a GS 12 at SSA I would definitely take the risk of jumping into this gig at HHS. If you end up unemployed after the 3 year term at HHS, are you more hireable having had the HHS experience than if you just stayed at SSA? Would the HHS position open up more private sector possibilities for you? If the answer is yes, then it might be a way to get out of the SSA decision writer circle, even if you aren't kept on at HHS. That is if you want to get out of that circle. Good question. I’m not sure. Depends on how much you like your job at SSA. |
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Post by rightspeech on Jun 8, 2021 19:51:37 GMT -5
SSA is fine, it's not bad. It's just dead end. I'm in kind of a secondary city in flyover country so alternatives don't pop up to often. I feel like I would have anxiety the entire time on an NTE 3 year which might not be worth it.
Maybe you could work for a hospital or an insurance company trying to get medicare reimbursement or something after? I don't know.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2021 20:59:12 GMT -5
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Post by christina on Jun 9, 2021 10:42:13 GMT -5
Are any insiders applying for these spots since they go up to a 13?
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Post by roymcavoy on Jun 9, 2021 12:36:29 GMT -5
Are any insiders applying for these spots since they go up to a 13? I’m not. HHS and SSA go hand in hand. In 2018, SSA hired a fairly large number of attorney advisors across the country. Those positions were NTE 4 years. It’s my understanding that many/most of those positions have not been made permanent. The fear among those I know is that with such a low number of cases needing to be written, they won’t be made permanent. This was the result of the idea that “the backlog needs to be reduced as quickly as possible no matter what happens long term”—an idea that has been exacerbated by the pandemic and low applications. It’s easy to see the same thing happening with HHS. |
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Post by christina on Jun 9, 2021 13:01:19 GMT -5
Are any insiders applying for these spots since they go up to a 13? I’m not. HHS and SSA go hand in hand. In 2018, SSA hired a fairly large number of attorney advisors across the country. Those positions were NTE 4 years. It’s my understanding that many/most of those positions have not been made permanent. The fear among those I know is that with such a low number of cases needing to be written, they won’t be made permanent. This was the result of the idea that “the backlog needs to be reduced as quickly as possible no matter what happens long term”—an idea that has been exacerbated by the pandemic and low applications. It’s easy to see the same thing happening with HHS. Sort of. Key difference is hhs workload likely to go up |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 17:26:22 GMT -5
They said that they are expanding.
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Post by rightspeech on Jun 9, 2021 18:28:21 GMT -5
Makes sense boomers are aging out of our system SSA disability and into their system medicare.
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Post by jimmy224 on Jun 9, 2021 19:21:50 GMT -5
Are any insiders applying for these spots since they go up to a 13? I’m not. HHS and SSA go hand in hand. In 2018, SSA hired a fairly large number of attorney advisors across the country. Those positions were NTE 4 years. It’s my understanding that many/most of those positions have not been made permanent. The fear among those I know is that with such a low number of cases needing to be written, they won’t be made permanent. This was the result of the idea that “the backlog needs to be reduced as quickly as possible no matter what happens long term”—an idea that has been exacerbated by the pandemic and low applications. It’s easy to see the same thing happening with HHS. It has been like 3 years, they still have not been made permanent? |
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Post by mercury on Jun 9, 2021 19:23:21 GMT -5
I’m not. HHS and SSA go hand in hand. In 2018, SSA hired a fairly large number of attorney advisors across the country. Those positions were NTE 4 years. It’s my understanding that many/most of those positions have not been made permanent. The fear among those I know is that with such a low number of cases needing to be written, they won’t be made permanent. This was the result of the idea that “the backlog needs to be reduced as quickly as possible no matter what happens long term”—an idea that has been exacerbated by the pandemic and low applications. It’s easy to see the same thing happening with HHS. It has been like 3 years, they still have not been made permanent? A few have, but many (most in my last SSA office) have not. |
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Post by generalsherman on Jun 9, 2021 19:40:59 GMT -5
It has been like 3 years, they still have not been made permanent? A few have, but many (most in my last SSA office) have not. So you’re saying some of the NTE DW’s from 2018 have been made permanent? Nobody from my office (including myself) have not been. Since we got here there’s been like 4 attorney/paralegal retirements, so ideally there should be room for us but I have to say I’m feeling a little antsy here! |
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Post by rightspeech on Jun 9, 2021 20:18:02 GMT -5
If I were NTE at SSA I would definitely apply for this. I dunno what's gonna happen but I've never seen nationwide pending writing below 9k like it is now. I think CEO or something similar will have to be made permanent, they need a new workload for writers. Also receipts might not come back with demand for low skill workers being so high right now.
I don't think I can apply though I'm about 6 years into public service loan forgiveness. Losing the job at year 9 of 10 would be pretty devasting.
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Post by mercury on Jun 9, 2021 22:13:23 GMT -5
A few have, but many (most in my last SSA office) have not. So you’re saying some of the NTE DW’s from 2018 have been made permanent? Nobody from my office (including myself) have not been. Since we got here there’s been like 4 attorney/paralegal retirements, so ideally there should be room for us but I have to say I’m feeling a little antsy here! They may have been hired in 2017 on 2-year NTEs. Some got extended before being made permanent, IIRC. |
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Post by christina on Jun 10, 2021 7:17:42 GMT -5
A few have, but many (most in my last SSA office) have not. So you’re saying some of the NTE DW’s from 2018 have been made permanent? Nobody from my office (including myself) have not been. Since we got here there’s been like 4 attorney/paralegal retirements, so ideally there should be room for us but I have to say I’m feeling a little antsy here! Per nteu agency wants to keep all of u who are still around To clarify numbers matter. So long as u maintain the desired numbers. |
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Post by nappyloxs on Jun 11, 2021 12:27:03 GMT -5
I agree with above comment that those on NTE may want to apply for this position. It does not hurt to have options while SSA decides what to do about the NTEs.
My bet is SSA will not make a decision on NTE until the last minute. They will use this FY and after to get rid of those employees that are “low producers.” However, they will keep many of the NTEs with the anticipated increase in receipts. Another factor whether they keep the CEO process.
Search this forum and you will find comments from members who went from SSA to HHS and really enjoy it.
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Post by sophiebear on Jun 14, 2021 17:47:59 GMT -5
I did not see these positions posted on USAJOBS which got me curious about the hiring process. Anyone know the process for these? Asking for a friend...
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Post by medinadodger on Jul 13, 2021 20:28:27 GMT -5
Any updates regarding this posting?
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Post by redraider05 on Jul 14, 2021 9:25:06 GMT -5
Any updates regarding this posting? I applied last month and have not heard anything. I was also curious if anyone else had. |
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