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Post by bobsmith on Jul 16, 2021 10:18:56 GMT -5
Administrative Appeals Judge - openings (federal and public) in the Department of Health and Human Services, Departmental Appeals Board, headquartered in Washington, District of Columbia.
7 openings. Term 3-years, closes 8/6/2021.
It says telework may be authorized, in accordance with agency policy, does anyone know then if we can work from anywhere in the US for this position?
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Post by moxie7 on Jul 16, 2021 10:52:15 GMT -5
Administrative Appeals Judge - openings (federal and public) in the Department of Health and Human Services, Departmental Appeals Board, headquartered in Washington, District of Columbia. 7 openings. Term 3-years, closes 8/6/2021. It says telework may be authorized, in accordance with agency policy, does anyone know then if we can work from anywhere in the US for this position? No, this position is based in DC. It is not remote. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2021 13:08:02 GMT -5
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Post by foghorn on Jul 16, 2021 15:01:22 GMT -5
Thanks for the heads up! I looked at USA jobs but missed this-- part of the wealth of value in this forum.
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Post by neufenland on Jul 16, 2021 15:40:45 GMT -5
A term AJ appointment? That's...interesting.
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Post by rightspeech on Jul 16, 2021 16:09:49 GMT -5
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Post by natethegreat on Jul 16, 2021 16:10:01 GMT -5
A term AJ appointment? That's...interesting. I believe the same component (DAB) was also hiring attorney advisers on a 3 year NTE to address a backlog. |
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Post by neufenland on Jul 16, 2021 16:11:39 GMT -5
A term AJ appointment? That's...interesting. I believe the same component (DAB) was also hiring attorney advisers on a 3 year NTE to address a backlog. As much as I want to be a judge, that is not promising information. |
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Post by moxie7 on Jul 16, 2021 16:45:11 GMT -5
DAB writers go up to a GS-13. Just stating for clarification if anyone is interested in that position. |
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Post by rightspeech on Jul 16, 2021 16:56:53 GMT -5
DAB writers go up to a GS-13. Just stating for clarification if anyone is interested in that position. Sounds like they're SOL too. You need a year at GS14 to apply |
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Post by neufenland on Jul 16, 2021 17:19:52 GMT -5
DAB writers go up to a GS-13. Just stating for clarification if anyone is interested in that position. Sounds like they're SOL too. You need a year at GS14 to apply This is a Trojan Horse of a job. A nice shiny position with "judge" in the title, but when you invite it in through the gates, you now have three years of intense pressure to perform so they don't toss you in the street when the NTE expires. That three-year term would be in the back of my head every day at work and every night before falling asleep, and I'm not sure they make enough Zoloft to counter the anxiety. Further, even if you are an awesome judge, if the backlog is substantially reduced three years from now, you still might get a pink slip. I'm sure we all work hard and plan to do so in any position as a judicial officer (for those of us still not in such a position), but that term limit is going to hang over these new hires. This is what the cynic in me sees with this gig. I'd like to believe that HHS has plans for what to do with these 7 judges after the three years, and that if you are a competent person, you can count on them taking care of you with some sort of lateral move (if the NTE isn't turned into a career position). I want to believe that, but it's an awfully big risk. It can't hurt to apply, and maybe some of you folks don't care about the NTE. It's a big red flag to me. |
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Post by moxie7 on Jul 16, 2021 17:21:44 GMT -5
DAB writers go up to a GS-13. Just stating for clarification if anyone is interested in that position. Sounds like they're SOL too. You need a year at GS14 to apply You’re correct. I just wanted to clarify if anyone was interested in getting time in as GS 13, they could at the DAB as an attorney advisor. It’s not a management position and is the top grade for a general attorney advisor position. |
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Post by noah on Jul 17, 2021 0:09:31 GMT -5
"We don't audition for business. Business auditions for us." Tubbs from the Miami Vice movie.
This offer wreaks of hubris.
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Post by foghorn on Jul 19, 2021 17:46:36 GMT -5
Am I missing something--it said open to the great unwashed--the public.
This job is open to
Federal employees - Excepted service
Current excepted service federal employees.
The public
U.S. citizens, nationals or those who owe allegiance to the U.S.
Clarification from the agency
Open to all status candidates and U.S. Citizens
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Post by natethegreat on Jul 19, 2021 18:50:40 GMT -5
Am I missing something--it said open to the great unwashed--the public.
This job is open to
Federal employees - Excepted service
Current excepted service federal employees.
The public
U.S. citizens, nationals or those who owe allegiance to the U.S.
Clarification from the agency
Open to all status candidates and U.S. Citizens I believe the poster was hinting at for Federal employees, you pretty have no real chance of consideration unless you are already A) a GS14 or B) had extensive service prior to your Federal employment that was equivalent to GS14 work. It appears that there is very little way to try and make your GS13 or below experience as Fed every be considered GS14 (even if your work arguably exceeded your PD description). |
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Post by rightspeech on Jul 20, 2021 10:15:05 GMT -5
Yea, in my experience if you're a current federal employee your current GS grade is going to be used as your most senior experience. For example, take this job. Say someone hung a shingle out of law school and had their own firm for 5 years. Then you joined OHO as a GS12 writer. To the HR person reviewing your resume, you're a GS12 and you are disqualified. That sole practitioner work isn't going to be considered private sector GS14 equivalent work.
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Post by foghorn on Jul 20, 2021 14:23:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the clarification!
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Post by garlow on Aug 3, 2021 19:02:19 GMT -5
Do you think they'd hire someone with no experience in health care or admin law, but 8+ years of litigation? not sure what is considered gs14 equivalent if you're not a supervisor.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 4, 2021 12:36:06 GMT -5
Do you think they'd hire someone with no experience in health care or admin law, but 8+ years of state litigation including appellate litigation? or like a state public defender or asst city attorney with 8+yrs? Not sure what is considered gs14 equivalent if you're not a supervisor. If you want it, apply for it. If they get enough people with ad law experience they may not be as dazzled by appellate lit experience but who knows. The bigger concern for many may be that raised above about whether this is just a 1-3 year affair, where you are abandoned with an "it's been real" before the wedding. (Delicacy prohibits the writer from further analogies along this primrose path). |
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Post by beenlurking on Aug 4, 2021 13:55:40 GMT -5
Most, if not all, of the job announcements for ALJ, AJ or attorneys, seem to require a JD "from an ABA accredited law school." The former SSA ALJ job announcement did not have that requirement, it only required a JD and an active bar license (as did some other job announcements at that time). I'm thankful that I am no longer looking to apply to these job announcements but I just thought it interesting. I did not graduate from an ABA accredited law school, just one that is accredited in my state. However, I am licensed to practice in my state and in ALL federal courts. I suppose its just another "weeding" out component that's been added to the current job announcements.
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