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Post by superdude on Sept 23, 2021 7:34:21 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300.
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 23, 2021 8:27:43 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. Under 300 in your proposed next 6 months or for being under 300 in your last 6 months? If the latter I cannot believe they want to pick that fight. If the former I almost can't believe they want to pick that fight. EDIT- I'd really like to know the answer, because while I am not saying either is OK, there is definitely a difference between "You cannot telework unless schedule X more hearings" and "You cannot telework because you did not schedule enough hearings and it is too late to do anything about it now"
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Post by ok1956 on Sept 23, 2021 9:57:01 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. 300 hearing quota? I’ve not heard of any adjustment down from 500 (which is silly as our office won’t schedule more than 35 cases per month).
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 23, 2021 10:35:27 GMT -5
300 per 6 months scheduled is what I assumed OP meant.
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Post by Thomas fka Lance on Sept 23, 2021 10:36:47 GMT -5
I think they are referring to the 300 submitted every 6 months as part of the request for telework, now due by September 30 for the period of October 1 through March 30.
Yes, quite a few of us went into law because we hated math, but I imagine most of us can figure out there isn't a 500 quota, rather there is a 600 quota.
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Post by ssaogc on Sept 23, 2021 10:41:21 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. Yes, there is an opinion and award FMCS No. 170925-55141 that is directly on point. The AlJ in that case scheduled only an average of 47 cases per month during the period of April 1 2017 to September 30 2017 and the union won.
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Post by ssaogc on Sept 23, 2021 10:43:58 GMT -5
300 per 6 months scheduled Yes if you take a whole month off they want 60 scheduled per month on the remaining five months. This is completely moving the goal posts on an already dubious standard as noted in the recent GAO report. I hope someone takes this to arbitration
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Post by christina on Sept 23, 2021 11:31:39 GMT -5
So reading tea leaves, sounds like at least one manager anticipates judges may be doing at least some in person hearings by March?
Is the OP going to have to go in on non hearing days too?
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Post by superdude on Sept 23, 2021 12:02:13 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. Under 300 in your proposed next 6 months or for being under 300 in your last 6 months? If the latter I cannot believe they want to pick that fight. If the former I almost can't believe they want to pick that fight. EDIT- I'd really like to know the answer, because while I am not saying either is OK, there is definitely a difference between "You cannot telework unless schedule X more hearings" and "You cannot telework because you did not schedule enough hearings and it is too late to do anything about it now" To clarify - 300 hearings proposed for the coming six months
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 23, 2021 14:56:52 GMT -5
So reading tea leaves, sounds like at least one manager anticipates judges may be doing at least some in person hearings by March? Is the OP going to have to go in on non hearing days too? Not surprising that management would at least be hoping for some return to the office by March. I've noticed that they are finally starting to put reps back to back with me again, that just started this month, so I'd guess at some point they were hoping for this fall. But, truthfully, it could also just be a manager feeling like they have to take away telework as a matter of principle even if there is no practical way of doing it.
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Post by pumpkin on Sept 23, 2021 18:54:50 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. What is the deadline for submitting your calendars and telework request for this period? I know it is normally in August but thought it was extended this time for some reason. If so, is there time to amend your request to add the necessary number of hearings to get you to 300?
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Post by hopefalj on Sept 23, 2021 19:33:25 GMT -5
So reading tea leaves, sounds like at least one manager anticipates judges may be doing at least some in person hearings by March? Is the OP going to have to go in on non hearing days too? Not surprising that management would at least be hoping for some return to the office by March. I've noticed that they are finally starting to put reps back to back with me again, that just started this month, so I'd guess at some point they were hoping for this fall. But, truthfully, it could also just be a manager feeling like they have to take away telework as a matter of principle even if there is no practical way of doing it. We’ve been told throughout this happy fun good time of Covid that we should continue to request 50 per month/150 per quarter despite the inability to fill the dockets with that number of hearings. I believe this is just a case of a HOCALJ flexing their muscles and running with the company line for failing to request the requisite number of hearings. I’ve had back to back hearings with reps since 2020, so perhaps you have a new scheduler or it’s a slight tweak to your office’s scheduling? I could see a return in February or March if for no other reason than the EO currently requires us all to be vaccinated by November. Assuming that sticks, 75 days after mid-November would put us in that timeframe. The only thing I do feel confident in is that it won’t be this year since I’m getting all the calendar invites for OVHs through December.
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Post by barkley on Sept 23, 2021 21:02:40 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. Tee it up!!
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Post by Thomas fka Lance on Sept 23, 2021 21:25:54 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. What is the deadline for submitting your calendars and telework request for this period? I know it is normally in August but thought it was extended this time for some reason. If so, is there time to amend your request to add the necessary number of hearings to get you to 300? The deadline is September 30, so there is time to revise it Note the 6 month time frame ends on March 30, despite the calendar which shows the end of March is Thursday March 31.
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 23, 2021 22:38:43 GMT -5
Not surprising that management would at least be hoping for some return to the office by March. I've noticed that they are finally starting to put reps back to back with me again, that just started this month, so I'd guess at some point they were hoping for this fall. But, truthfully, it could also just be a manager feeling like they have to take away telework as a matter of principle even if there is no practical way of doing it. We’ve been told throughout this happy fun good time of Covid that we should continue to request 50 per month/150 per quarter despite the inability to fill the dockets with that number of hearings. I believe this is just a case of a HOCALJ flexing their muscles and running with the company line for failing to request the requisite number of hearings. I’ve had back to back hearings with reps since 2020, so perhaps you have a new scheduler or it’s a slight tweak to your office’s scheduling? I could see a return in February or March if for no other reason than the EO currently requires us all to be vaccinated by November. Assuming that sticks, 75 days after mid-November would put us in that timeframe. The only thing I do feel confident in is that it won’t be this year since I’m getting all the calendar invites for OVHs through December. The executive order is going to be fought by the unions, so I don't know that it will be implemented by the target date Besides, the EO specifically exempts the claimants from having to be vaccinated or tested, so how much does it really matter if every employee is vaccinated?
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Post by hapi2balj on Sept 27, 2021 5:58:37 GMT -5
Quoting hopefalj: "Besides, the EO specifically exempts the claimants from having to be vaccinated or tested, so how much does it really matter if every employee is vaccinated?"
True to the above + all the expense of setting up OVH + all the savings to the agency of full-time telework = no sense in ever going back to the office.
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Post by marathon on Sept 28, 2021 10:41:14 GMT -5
Quoting hopefalj: "Besides, the EO specifically exempts the claimants from having to be vaccinated or tested, so how much does it really matter if every employee is vaccinated?" True to the above + all the expense of setting up OVH + all the savings to the agency of full-time telework = no sense in ever going back to the office. Just the office footprint alone would be enormous. My office is located in a place where similarly sized space is consistently over $1mil a month (I recognize the mileage of other offices my vary). Plus no supplies for most staff. You could shrink to the size of the mailroom and have a Dropbox for in person delivery of docs, etc. Imagine the SES bonus that could be achieved by saving the program multi-millions!
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Post by superalj on Sept 29, 2021 21:22:52 GMT -5
Has anyone filed a grievance over the 300 hearings quota in order to telework? I was denied telework for being only a little shy of 300. Dude, (I’m a big Big Lebowski fan), just show you’re availability for 300 hearings and get that telework approved. First, receipts are still low and I doubt that they could even give you 300 hearings. Second, we all know that there is a big difference between scheduling and hearing 300 cases due to withdrawals and no show. Grieving creates stress for you and a headache for management and we are not going back into the office anytime soon regardless of what they say. Regardless, best wishes.
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