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Post by garlow on May 16, 2022 21:54:53 GMT -5
If anyone has only one city or two they are willing to go to, feel free to PM me to ask if there are people waiting to transfer to it. That way you can gauge your likelihood of being offered that city. how competitive is DC and the surrounding cities in virginia/maryland? |
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Post by WallyGator on May 17, 2022 6:12:46 GMT -5
Agreed. In addition the number of empty offices have no relationship to projected receipts and other metrics that are used to determine number of ALJs needed. Unfortunately, without knowing all that goes into the determination, reading tea leaves is likely just as effective, sorry to say. The best advice has been given already. Only put places down where you are willing to live long term. But if you only have two cities that have 20+ names on the transfer list and some of them were added in the last couple years then you know it’s unlikely. It’s not that simple. The current transfer request process creates an incentive to try to hold a place in line for any office you might want to transfer to someday. Even a recent request doesn’t say much as there is concern among some that the ability to hold a place in line will go away. Rather than holding places in lines with no immediate desire to transfer, I would prefer a system where the agency has a quarterly transfer announcement that lists the offices that are open for transfers. ALJs wanting to transfer immediately could apply and selection would be based on seniority. A two year wait to transfer again would likely be prudent as well. |
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Post by Gaidin on May 18, 2022 8:17:40 GMT -5
If anyone has only one city or two they are willing to go to, feel free to PM me to ask if there are people waiting to transfer to it. That way you can gauge your likelihood of being offered that city. how competitive is DC and the surrounding cities in virginia/maryland? Extremely. Now that other agencies can get their ALJs straight from the source maybe it will be a bit less competitive but I would say only a bit. Plenty of insiders live around DC, Arlington, and Baltimore because of the concentration of SSA offices. Obviously, this is a new process without the mechanics of certs and scores but when I got hired the polls indicated that even the least desirable location would have more than 20 applicants willing to go to it in any given hiring cycle. |
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 21:45:37 GMT -5
how competitive is DC and the surrounding cities in virginia/maryland? Extremely. Now that other agencies can get their ALJs straight from the source maybe it will be a bit less competitive but I would say only a bit. Plenty of insiders live around DC, Arlington, and Baltimore because of the concentration of SSA offices. Obviously, this is a new process without the mechanics of certs and scores but when I got hired the polls indicated that even the least desirable location would have more than 20 applicants willing to go to it in any given hiring cycle. Also, people transfer back to DC/Bmore all the time. I wouldn’t expect a hire there….frankly ever, unless they cancel the transfer process entirely. I’d bet my money on outcraplandistan (one person’s trash is another person’s treasure). |
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Post by Prrple on May 25, 2022 11:04:00 GMT -5
It's been four weeks today since the application frenzy day. Any conjecture on when we will hear something about whether individual applications met the minimum qualifications?
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Post by fowlfinder on May 25, 2022 11:08:32 GMT -5
It's been four weeks today since the application frenzy day. Any conjecture on when we will hear something about whether individual applications met the minimum qualifications? I think it will be 8 weeks. While I would like a few more responses on the poll, it looks like 1/3 of the applicants put their application in after the 1,000 applicant cut off, meaning about 1,500 applicants to review and screen. I think we wont hear back about minimum qualifications until week 6 or 8, that is my guess based on past time lines and the number of applicants to screen. But I have no inside information to base this on. |
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Post by hillsarealive on May 25, 2022 12:20:45 GMT -5
Your estimates seem reasonable. With just four months to go, though, SSA will need to move at a brisk pace for the other phases--testing (seems unlikely at this point but I could see an online multiple choice test for judgment or something like that), interviews, reference checks, and onboarding.
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Post by roymcavoy on May 25, 2022 12:40:52 GMT -5
I’d think the next thing we will hear is that current ALJs/HOCALJs are asked to help with interviews from dates X - Y.
If they are only hiring 25 ALJs for a certain range of cities, it seems possible they won’t interview everyone they can interview if those people are not willing to go into X and Y.
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Post by Prrple on May 25, 2022 12:45:41 GMT -5
I’d think the next thing we will hear is that current ALJs/HOCALJs are asked to help with interviews from dates X - Y. If they are only hiring 25 ALJs for a certain range of cities, it seems possible they won’t interview everyone they can interview if those people are not willing to go into X and Y. It would be logical to screen for location first, and thereby narrow the number of applications to review, but I have no idea if the process allows that. Hiring for exempt (non-competitive) positions does seem pretty loose in terms of rules |
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Post by roymcavoy on May 25, 2022 13:45:29 GMT -5
I’d think the next thing we will hear is that current ALJs/HOCALJs are asked to help with interviews from dates X - Y. If they are only hiring 25 ALJs for a certain range of cities, it seems possible they won’t interview everyone they can interview if those people are not willing to go into X and Y. It would be logical to screen for location first, and thereby narrow the number of applications to review, but I have no idea if the process allows that. Hiring for exempt (non-competitive) positions does seem pretty loose in terms of rules I agree. I was told that the 2019 process was a “trial run” to work out the kinks. From what I understand, that one got to the last hurdle, so you would think this process (which is similar to that one thus far) would be streamlined. However, I’d imagine that the (potential) use of video for interviews and (therefore possible, it seems) video for training will make this hire of 25 also largely a trial run for whatever larger hire they want for FY 2023. |
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Post by Gaidin on May 25, 2022 19:33:10 GMT -5
I see some of you speculating that they will need lots of time to do this. I was notified I was on a cert on April 15, 2016, offered the job on June 8, 2016, and was expected to report for duty June 26, 2016. I know people who were hired at the end of that summer who were given less time.
I had already interviewed but I had classmates who were interviewed between 4/15 and offers going out. So they sent out interest packets, interviewed candidates, checked references, made hiring decisions, and started making offers in 54 days with the expectation that I would show up just 2 1/2 weeks later.
They don't have to contend with NORs, the rule of 3, or veteran's preference points now. So it should be even more streamlined. Once this thing gets rolling expect it to go very fast. Do not think in terms of months instead think weeks and days.
The only real deadline is getting the offers made and accepted before 9/30/22.
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Post by generalsherman on May 25, 2022 21:12:14 GMT -5
SSA sent out an early retirement offer today, FWIW. Perhaps there could be some ALJ retirements looming.
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Post by superalj on May 25, 2022 21:43:22 GMT -5
Also, the hall SSA blog indicated numbers are expected to rise although it wasn’t specific if the back log is at DDS or with us. My hearing schedule is still way too light. The silver lining is the time between the request for hearing and hearing is so short, there is much less evidence submitted after reconsideration making file review easier.
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Post by trp888 on May 26, 2022 6:33:34 GMT -5
SSA sent out an early retirement offer today, FWIW. Perhaps there could be some ALJ retirements looming. I came to say this as well…. First early out retirement offer since 2020 so wondering the same thing. |
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Post by rp on May 26, 2022 6:51:21 GMT -5
SSA sent out an early retirement offer today, FWIW. Perhaps there could be some ALJ retirements looming. I came to say this as well…. First early out retirement offer since 2020 so wondering the same thing. Actually that is not correct. There already was early out retirement offer for ALJs that went through 12/31/2022. What they did was move the deadline up. |
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Post by Top Tier on May 26, 2022 7:17:22 GMT -5
I came to say this as well…. First early out retirement offer since 2020 so wondering the same thing. Actually that is not correct. There already was early out retirement offer for ALJs that went through 12/31/2022. What they did was move the deadline up. Actually, this is not correct. The early out retirement offer that included ALJs was offered toward the end of 2021 with retirement mandatory no later than 12/31/2021. Then in spring of 2022, SSA was granted an extension of the authority to offer early out retirements through 12/31/2022; which it is now utilizing again with mandatory retirement date no later than July 30th. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/187750 It is peculiar that after so many years of not hiring they have now offered two early outs within 7 to 8 months of each other, and they are expecting receipts to increase with the reentry?? What's up with that? |
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Post by rp on May 26, 2022 7:38:50 GMT -5
Actually that is not correct. There already was early out retirement offer for ALJs that went through 12/31/2022. What they did was move the deadline up. Actually, this is not correct. The early out retirement offer that included ALJs was offered toward the end of 2021 with retirement mandatory no later than 12/31/2021. Then in spring of 2022, SSA was granted an extension of the authority to offer early out retirements through 12/31/2022; which it is now utilizing again with mandatory retirement date no later than July 30th. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/post/187750 It is peculiar that after so many years of not hiring they have now offered two early outs within 7 to 8 months of each other, and they are expecting receipts to increase with the reentry?? What's up with that? Uh…ok. Tomato/tomatoe. In any event, the deadline is now July and not December as it had originally been extended to. |
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Post by ba on May 27, 2022 5:49:03 GMT -5
I see some of you speculating that they will need lots of time to do this. I was notified I was on a cert on April 15, 2016, offered the job on June 8, 2016, and was expected to report for duty June 26, 2016. I know people who were hired at the end of that summer who were given less time. I had already interviewed but I had classmates who were interviewed between 4/15 and offers going out. So they sent out interest packets, interviewed candidates, checked references, made hiring decisions, and started making offers in 54 days with the expectation that I would show up just 2 1/2 weeks later. They don't have to contend with NORs, the rule of 3, or veteran's preference points now. So it should be even more streamlined. Once this thing gets rolling expect it to go very fast. Do not think in terms of months instead think weeks and days. The only real deadline is getting the offers made and accepted before 9/30/22. Not that you kept track of this or anything.  |
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Post by Gaidin on May 27, 2022 8:05:11 GMT -5
I see some of you speculating that they will need lots of time to do this. I was notified I was on a cert on April 15, 2016, offered the job on June 8, 2016, and was expected to report for duty June 26, 2016. I know people who were hired at the end of that summer who were given less time. I had already interviewed but I had classmates who were interviewed between 4/15 and offers going out. So they sent out interest packets, interviewed candidates, checked references, made hiring decisions, and started making offers in 54 days with the expectation that I would show up just 2 1/2 weeks later. They don't have to contend with NORs, the rule of 3, or veteran's preference points now. So it should be even more streamlined. Once this thing gets rolling expect it to go very fast. Do not think in terms of months instead think weeks and days. The only real deadline is getting the offers made and accepted before 9/30/22. Not that you kept track of this or anything. Call me Ahab.... |
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Post by foghorn on May 27, 2022 14:10:23 GMT -5
beats calling you a cab.....
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