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Post by Gaidin on Aug 23, 2022 11:36:39 GMT -5
Appears TG is out as DC. Any word on the new Acting Joe Lytle? Thanks for the heads-up about this news. I had figured that this controversy had resolved itself when we didn't see further news articles. Sorry to jump to this right away, but I can't help myself. How will this change affect hiring in OHO over the next, say, 5-6 weeks? Give it to me straight. I don't know much about OHO in particular, but it seems to me that when a component head is replaced, you can expect delays in high-level decision-making including things like hiring. She wasn't fired and it sounds like this is part of a larger plan. My guess is her change in role will not impact hiring. |
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on Aug 23, 2022 11:44:57 GMT -5
The announcement is available to any SSA employee via the internal Employee Dashboard.
It’s on the home page, and the first entry under “Latest News,” in the “Executive Personnel Assignments” from August 23.
The ACOSS announcement talks about the complexities of the disability workload and the historic backlogs caused by the pandemic. Terrie Gruber will be Senior Advisor to the Commissioner in charge of updating the disability process “to remove barriers to customer access and employee upward mobility at every point in the process.”
Joe Lytle will serve as Acting DC of OHO and his position will be temporarily backfilled (more news to come on that).
Had it not been for the article this summer, I question whether anyone would’ve blinked twice at the announcement.
***edited to add that these “Executive Personnel Announcements” are a regular thing, usually once a month, sometimes more frequently. This will be the 15th in FY22.
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Post by superalj on Aug 23, 2022 11:51:01 GMT -5
No one upper management gets fired. They just get promoted or reassigned.
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Post by rightspeech on Aug 23, 2022 15:49:29 GMT -5
Unless your name is Andrew Saul
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Post by hopefalj on Aug 23, 2022 20:55:48 GMT -5
No one upper management gets fired. They just get promoted or reassigned. I remember meeting Judge Cristaudo soon after I started with the agency over a decade ago. He told me I should get into management because SES employment was the way to go. I thought that was ludicrous because being an ALJ was obviously the best career path. Boy do I feel like a sucker now. SES personnel have infinite lives, big salaries, ambiguous job titles/duties, and huge benefits. Doing well at your job is entirely discretionary. |
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Post by rightspeech on Aug 24, 2022 7:02:34 GMT -5
No one upper management gets fired. They just get promoted or reassigned. SES personnel have infinite lives, big salaries, ambiguous job titles/duties , and huge benefits. Doing well at your job is entirely discretionary. Sounds pretty close to ALJ to me.  SES have more accountability than ALJ, when's the last time an ALJ got reassigned? SES have way more difficult jobs trying to herd thousands of cats, you're just asking 500 people per year whether or not they think they can lift and carry a gallon of milk. |
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Post by christina on Aug 24, 2022 7:22:58 GMT -5
To jump in, I would say SES jobs can be harder. I have heard many ALJs say their job is best job ever.
I only know one SES and not well. But from what I picked up third hand, they were often stressed and put on a lot of weight while in SES. This individual was so laid back pre SES that being a GS did not phase them. And pre SES, this individual was athletic and seemed to have better qol.
I agree on reassignment part though and I imagine some enjoy SES more
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Post by neufenland on Aug 24, 2022 7:38:28 GMT -5
To jump in, I would say SES jobs can be harder. I have heard many ALJs say their job is best job ever. I only know one SES and not well. But from what I picked up third hand, they were often stressed and put on a lot of weight while in SES. This individual was so laid back pre SES that being a GS did not phase them. And pre SES, this individual was athletic and seemed to have better qol. I agree on reassignment part though and I imagine some enjoy SES more Depends on the agency and the position, for sure. My late father was SIS (the "I" stands for Intelligence, and in a certain three-letter agency (he was overt and I could share it, but it's kind of like saying "Voldemort" in that respect), they use that designator instead of SES). He had assignments he loved and ones he hated. Not that he could ever talk about the details, but as with everything, I think it's the people you work with that make or break a job. I'll also note that his highest educational qualification was a BS degree in Math. He learned computer science when it was in its infancy and took that with him as technology exploded. I don't know if it was just a different time or what...not sure that would fly these days as most non-lawyer SES folks probably have at least a Master's, I'd assume. Just an interesting fact to me, I guess. |
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Post by redsox1 on Aug 24, 2022 12:06:08 GMT -5
SES personnel have infinite lives, big salaries, ambiguous job titles/duties , and huge benefits. Doing well at your job is entirely discretionary. Sounds pretty close to ALJ to me. SES have more accountability than ALJ, when's the last time an ALJ got reassigned? SES have way more difficult jobs trying to herd thousands of cats, you're just asking 500 people per year whether or not they think they can lift and carry a gallon of milk. Management ALJs are reassigned under similar circumstances. Not frequently but it happens. |
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Post by jagvet on Aug 24, 2022 19:44:26 GMT -5
The reassignment of senior people in trouble is a common response in government. Sometimes it's a prelude to a quiet retirement/resignation. Sometimes it's to protect them until the heat passes. We'll have to see how this plays out. Whenever the current Commish is fired, a lot of problematic career managers will also be shown the door.
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 24, 2022 23:16:54 GMT -5
The reassignment of senior people in trouble is a common response in government. Sometimes it's a prelude to a quiet retirement/resignation. Sometimes it's to protect them until the heat passes. We'll have to see how this plays out. Whenever the current Commish is fired, a lot of problematic career managers will also be shown the door. It's true in private industry too. I've known several people over the years who seemed to be unsinkable. They would screw up majorly and suddenly they were spear heading a new project. |
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Post by superalj on Aug 25, 2022 15:39:50 GMT -5
This is somewhat off topic but it involves upper, upper management. I just saw an email from an upper, upper manager about “employee engagement” and he described himself as the “employee engagement executive champion” of OHO.
Please correct if I am mistaken but isn’t this the guy who described slow performers as “water buffalo”?
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Post by magisterludi on Aug 30, 2022 21:18:41 GMT -5
This is somewhat off topic but it involves upper, upper management. I just saw an email from an upper, upper manager about “employee engagement” and he described himself as the “employee engagement executive champion” of OHO. Please correct if I am mistaken but isn’t this the guy who described slow performers as “water buffalo”? Wildebeests |
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Post by Prrple on Aug 30, 2022 21:23:12 GMT -5
The reassignment of senior people in trouble is a common response in government. Sometimes it's a prelude to a quiet retirement/resignation. Sometimes it's to protect them until the heat passes. We'll have to see how this plays out. Whenever the current Commish is fired, a lot of problematic career managers will also be shown the door. It's true in private industry too. I've known several people over the years who seemed to be unsinkable. They would screw up majorly and suddenly they were spear heading a new project. That is for sure. Some people are teflon; some are velcro. Most of us are neither |
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on Aug 31, 2022 1:43:46 GMT -5
It's true in private industry too. I've known several people over the years who seemed to be unsinkable. They would screw up majorly and suddenly they were spear heading a new project. That is for sure. Some people are teflon; some are velcro. Most of us are neither Bad managers are velcro that has so many stray threads and lint caught in the teeth that it might as well be teflon. (Don’t mind me; just over here trying to get my 4-year-olds Lightning McQueen sneakers to stay on his feet.) (And now I’m thinking about what would be the personnel equivalent of the metal-toothy-comb thingy that I use to pull off all the fibers and make the velcro stick again…) |
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Post by thankful1 on Sept 2, 2022 0:03:04 GMT -5
This isn't the only bombshell involving high level OHO management you're gonna see this summer. Take that to the bank. Summer as in equinox or summer as in Labor Day? |
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SES have more accountability than ALJ, when's the last time an ALJ got reassigned? SES have way more difficult jobs trying to herd thousands of cats, you're just asking 500 people per year whether or not they think they can lift and carry a gallon of milk.
