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Post by hillsarealive on Sept 16, 2022 9:49:25 GMT -5
Am I the only one who was told SSA still plans on hiring ALJs in 2023? Someone shared this with me after the recent round of hires. I mean this person isn’t on the ALJ hiring committee but a trustworthy source. I guess anything could change between now and then but the plan has always been to hire in 2022 and 2023. I heard the same. Thank you both for sharing this intel! Of course, no one can predict the future with certainty, but it is nice to know that ALJ hiring in FY2023 is part of the current plan. As others have pointed out, this year's ALJ hiring announcement included all the locations, and this wide-open approach seems to contemplate using the same pool of applicants for multiple rounds or hiring. TPTB picked up many great applicants last week, but I suspect there are plenty more to choose from for potential future rounds. |
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Post by neufenland on Sept 16, 2022 10:41:08 GMT -5
Thank you both for sharing this intel! Of course, no one can predict the future with certainty, but it is nice to know that ALJ hiring in FY2023 is part of the current plan. As others have pointed out, this year's ALJ hiring announcement included all the locations, and this wide-open approach seems to contemplate using the same pool of applicants for multiple rounds or hiring. TPTB picked up many great applicants last week, but I suspect there are plenty more to choose from for potential future rounds. According to the data on the poll page, my #1 choice didn't get a hire, but locations an hour or so away from it did get several hires (which were also on my GAL). I feel I failed to impress, sadly. |
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Post by hillsarealive on Sept 16, 2022 11:41:30 GMT -5
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Post by abthejd on Sept 16, 2022 14:53:13 GMT -5
Thank you both for sharing this intel! Of course, no one can predict the future with certainty, but it is nice to know that ALJ hiring in FY2023 is part of the current plan. As others have pointed out, this year's ALJ hiring announcement included all the locations, and this wide-open approach seems to contemplate using the same pool of applicants for multiple rounds or hiring. TPTB picked up many great applicants last week, but I suspect there are plenty more to choose from for potential future rounds. According to the data on the poll page, my #1 choice didn't get a hire, but locations an hour or so away from it did get several hires (which were also on my GAL). I feel I failed to impress, sadly. For what it is worth, none of my GAL got a hire, and I was not selected for an interview. Unfortunately, I was not, and currently still am not, in a position that I can take a position far from my home base. Not sure if that actually means anything, ie, was a reason I wasn’t interviewed since I indicated I wouldn’t accept a job at all of the locations hired to. All we can do is guess at this point, but figured I’d share my experience if it could help work towards clarity. I just hope they let us update our GALs if there is a next round, as I’ll be able to broaden that list next FY. |
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Post by roymcavoy on Sept 16, 2022 16:52:55 GMT -5
Am I the only one who was told SSA still plans on hiring ALJs in 2023? Someone shared this with me after the recent round of hires. I mean this person isn’t on the ALJ hiring committee but a trustworthy source. I guess anything could change between now and then but the plan has always been to hire in 2022 and 2023. the plan *was* to hire ALJs in 2023 to cover attrition. I can confirm from my hocalj that they think this is still on track. I think the wildcard is budgetary in nature, but hopefully that will be more determinative of “when” and not “if” they make FY23 hires. |
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Post by gazoo on Sept 16, 2022 16:57:27 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say that location was a major (if not the primary) factor in determining who got interviewed this time around. I think it’s also safe to say that everyone on the “referred” list still remains on the list, including those that recently interviewed but were not picked up this round.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 16, 2022 17:13:26 GMT -5
I think it’s safe to say that location was a major (if not the primary) factor in determining who got interviewed this time around. I think it’s also safe to say that everyone on the “referred” list still remains on the list, including those that recently interviewed but were not picked up this round. I think it is safe to say you are correct. Pixie |
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Post by FrogEsq on Sept 16, 2022 18:15:35 GMT -5
Despite working over 5 years, I never hear anything. My ear must be to a rock.
Anyway, I did want to congratulate all the new ALJs and to offer my experience as a NODAR with no disability experience coming into SSA as an ALJ. Buckle up. Seriously. It's quite the ride. But know this, as well. If you got this far, you will be just fine.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 16, 2022 22:06:53 GMT -5
Despite working over 5 years, I never hear anything. My ear must be to a rock.
Anyway, I did want to congratulate all the new ALJs and to offer my experience as a NODAR with no disability experience coming into SSA as an ALJ. Buckle up. Seriously. It's quite the ride. But know this, as well. If you got this far, you will be just fine. Change rocks. Pixie |
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Post by operationalj on Sept 18, 2022 14:57:04 GMT -5
Claimant's reps are actively advocating via text and email campaigns to support the increase in funding for 2023 as we are concerned and very frustrated with the long wait times at DDS and FOs. At one FO, initial applications have not been processed for 11 months. A portion of the increased funding should go for hiring additional ALJs in 2023 because there is a lot of working heading toward OHO that details of DWs and SAAs and newly hired ALJS will not be able to handle alone. #UPFUNDING
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Post by gazoo on Sept 25, 2022 18:59:29 GMT -5
Is the agency required to fill open spots in a given office via the transfer list before placing brand new ALJs there? Such that a GAL limited to “popular” cities only could prevent a person from ever being hired?
Or does the agency have some flexibility in hiring in that situation?
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Post by Exnicios on Sept 26, 2022 9:18:02 GMT -5
I may have missed it but what is the number hired in this cycle?
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Post by hillsarealive on Sept 26, 2022 9:30:07 GMT -5
Is the agency required to fill open spots in a given office via the transfer list before placing brand new ALJs there? Such that a GAL limited to “popular” cities only could prevent a person from ever being hired? Or does the agency have some flexibility in hiring in that situation? I recall reading on this board that the agency will sometimes hire new ALJs for locations that are on existing ALJs' transfer lists. Not sure how often this happens though. It seems like the last round of hiring involved some fairly desirable locations, meaning--to my mind anyway--HOs in major cities. |
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Post by neufenland on Sept 26, 2022 9:46:18 GMT -5
I may have missed it but what is the number hired in this cycle? 57, I think? Maybe 56? |
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 26, 2022 9:50:03 GMT -5
Is the agency required to fill open spots in a given office via the transfer list before placing brand new ALJs there? Such that a GAL limited to “popular” cities only could prevent a person from ever being hired? Or does the agency have some flexibility in hiring in that situation? I recall reading on this board that the agency will sometimes hire new ALJs for locations that are on existing ALJs' transfer lists. Not sure how often this happens though. It seems like the last round of hiring involved some fairly desirable locations, meaning--to my mind anyway--HOs in major cities. Under the prior CBA the agency could hire directly into an office if an opening was created following two rounds of transfers. So called "desirable" locations do occasionally get new hires. Even if there are nominally 50 ALJs on the transfer list for that location, it is possible that at the time the slot becomes available that no one is ready to move. That is likely more true now with the elimination of the two hour rule and the expansion of telework. |
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Post by gazoo on Sept 26, 2022 10:02:14 GMT -5
I may have missed it but what is the number hired in this cycle? 57, I think? Maybe 56? I believe the final number was 55. |
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Post by corvette1963 on Sept 26, 2022 10:21:30 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, it's been several years since I've been on this board. Can someone tell whether or not I've totally missed the boat. Back in April 2019, I received this note. I did not apply because I was in the corporate sector and very happy. Well, I'm wondering if my prior results and being on the list will still count.
Solicitation of Interest—Administrative Law Judge Position
Opening Date: April 8, 2019
Closing Date: April 12, 2019
The Social Security Administration’s Office of Hearings Operations is hiring Administrative Law Judges (ALJs). You are eligible to apply as you have been identified by the Office of Personnel Management as an ALJ applicant who was on the now discontinued ALJ register, or as an ALJ applicant who received an informational Notice of Results (NOR) in 2018.
If you wish to apply to the position of Social Security Administration ALJ, by the deadline identified above, you must complete your application through USAJobs. Please do not forward this link.
For questions, please contact OHO.OCALJ.HIRES@SSA.GOV
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Post by intothewild on Sept 26, 2022 10:42:06 GMT -5
I believe the final number was 55. Was the majority SSA employees? |
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Post by fowlfinder on Sept 26, 2022 10:51:06 GMT -5
Hi Everyone, it's been several years since I've been on this board. Can someone tell whether or not I've totally missed the boat. Back in April 2019, I received this note. I did not apply because I was in the corporate sector and very happy. Well, I'm wondering if my prior results and being on the list will still count. Solicitation of Interest—Administrative Law Judge Position Opening Date: April 8, 2019 Closing Date: April 12, 2019 The Social Security Administration’s Office of Hearings Operations is hiring Administrative Law Judges (ALJs). You are eligible to apply as you have been identified by the Office of Personnel Management as an ALJ applicant who was on the now discontinued ALJ register, or as an ALJ applicant who received an informational Notice of Results (NOR) in 2018. If you wish to apply to the position of Social Security Administration ALJ, by the deadline identified above, you must complete your application through USAJobs. Please do not forward this link. For questions, please contact OHO.OCALJ.HIRES@SSA.GOV You have a lot to catch up. IMO a mind boggling amount.\ In summation: 1. Interviews occurred for the 2019 invitation in the summer of 2019. An agency wide hiring freeze was implemented August 1 (date approximate) of 2019. That hiring freeze was not lifted until years later, and no one was hired from the 2019 invitation. 2. The registry as it was formerly constituted was closed, filed away, and maybe forgotten. Simply, its gone. (Due to court and administrative actions). 3. A new USAjobs opening was published in April of 2022 limited to the first 1000 applicants. It closed on the day of listing and approximately 1200 to 1500 applicants got their applications in before the opening closed. 4. Approximately 120 people this summer were interviewed from the April 2022 opening. Two weeks ago 55 (maybe 57) people were hired with start dates for October 9, 2022. That is what has happened in a very brief summary. There are rumors of a round of hiring in Fiscal Year 2023. There is also a strong probability that those FY 2023 hires will come from the April 2022 application pool. I think those are the highlights from the last four years. |
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Post by corvette1963 on Sept 26, 2022 10:56:46 GMT -5
Thank you very much. So, it appears that all that work I did several years ago, scoring high on the examination taken in D.C., getting an interview in D.C., etc. was all for nothing now.
Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eye open for a potential new hiring.
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