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Post by Pixie on Sept 26, 2022 11:58:15 GMT -5
Thank you very much. So, it appears that all that work I did several years ago, scoring high on the examination taken in D.C., getting an interview in D.C., etc. was all for nothing now. Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eye open for a potential new hiring. FowlFinder gave a succinct summary. What is unsaid is that with OPM out of the way, SSA is free to hire whom it pleases. I doubt that very many outsiders will get the call. As the preferred insiders are taken out of the pool, SSA might take a chance on some of the outsiders, but that is an unknown. Your last best chance was back in 2019, but that wasn't really a chance at all. Don't feel that the fickle finger of fate has singled you out; there are plenty more similarly situated. Pixie |
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Post by neufenland on Sept 26, 2022 14:55:56 GMT -5
I believe the final number was 55. Was the majority SSA employees? Yes. According to the poll on this site, anyway. |
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Post by neufenland on Sept 26, 2022 14:59:05 GMT -5
Thank you very much. So, it appears that all that work I did several years ago, scoring high on the examination taken in D.C., getting an interview in D.C., etc. was all for nothing now. Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eye open for a potential new hiring. Sadly, yes. |
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Post by jlawj on Sept 26, 2022 18:02:05 GMT -5
Thank you very much. So, it appears that all that work I did several years ago, scoring high on the examination taken in D.C., getting an interview in D.C., etc. was all for nothing now. Thanks for the update. I'll keep my eye open for a potential new hiring. FowlFinder gave a succinct summary. What is unsaid is that with OPM out of the way, SSA is free to hire whom it pleases. I doubt that very many outsiders will get the call. As the preferred insiders are taken out of the pool, SSA might take a chance on some of the outsiders, but that is an unknown. Your last best chance was back in 2019, but that wasn't really a chance at all. Don't feel that the fickle finger of fate has singled you out; there are plenty more similarly situated. Pixie The only thing missing from the summary was that there were a number of people who didn't get interviewed this time around who received an e-mail stating "Based on our review of your application, you meet the minimum eligibility requirements for the position" and then goes on to say that if you are a high scoring applicant for a location, you will receive an invitation for an interview, essentially creating an ersatz Register. I know people who got that e-mail, and I know people who didn't. I have no idea how many people got that e-mail and how many were insiders. |
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Post by ssa on Sept 27, 2022 7:18:48 GMT -5
I believe the final number was 55. Was the majority SSA employees? There were 56 hired. 16 outsiders but some of those were current ALJs with other agencies and/or former insiders. If you categorized the selectees, the largest group would be managers (GS, HOD, etc.). There were a handful of DWs, SAAs, or regional office employees selected, and several OGC attorneys were chosen. |
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Post by george1 on Sept 27, 2022 10:47:01 GMT -5
House Version Of Continuing Resolution Gives Social Security More Operating Funds
The House version of the Continuing Resolution (CR) that will fund government operations until full year appropriations bills can be passed is out. In general, CRs allow agencies to continue to spend money at the same rate as during the preceding fiscal year. The Biden Administration had asked that Social Security be allowed to spend money during the CR time period as if the FY 2022 appropriation had been $800 million higher than it actually was. The House bill doesn't go that far. If passed it will allow Social Security to spend money at a rate $400 million higher than during FY 2022. (§148, page 28) That's certainly better than nothing but it isn't nearly enough to help the agency address its severe problems.
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Post by Prrple on Sept 27, 2022 10:49:56 GMT -5
Was the majority SSA employees? There were 56 hired. 16 outsiders but some of those were current ALJs with other agencies and/or former insiders. If you categorized the selectees, the largest group would be managers (GS, HOD, etc.). There were a handful of DWs, SAAs, or regional office employees selected, and several OGC attorneys were chosen. Thank you for this information. It takes some of the sting out of not getting selected to interview, since I am a true outsider.
I am also awesome, and would have quickly earned the "World's Greatest ALJ" mug, so it is SSA's loss |
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Post by christina on Sept 27, 2022 12:06:41 GMT -5
There were 56 hired. 16 outsiders but some of those were current ALJs with other agencies and/or former insiders. If you categorized the selectees, the largest group would be managers (GS, HOD, etc.). There were a handful of DWs, SAAs, or regional office employees selected, and several OGC attorneys were chosen. Thank you for this information. It takes some of the sting out of not getting selected to interview, since I am a true outsider.
I am also awesome, and would have quickly earned the "World's Greatest ALJ" mug, so it is SSA's loss The process can sting. No doubt about it |
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Post by hillsarealive on Sept 27, 2022 13:01:34 GMT -5
It is a tough process for sure.
The application process closed in less than a day. So it may be that thousands of potential candidates missed their chance at the very beginning.
Of the perhaps 1250 applications that were submitted in time, some unknown number were rejected for not meeting the technical requirements (e.g., inadequate proof of licensure). As I understand it, such problems could not be corrected by providing the missing documentation or information.
Approximately 125 people, or somewhere in the ballpark of 10% of those who submitted applications in time, were invited to interview.
Of those 125, about 55 were offered ALJ positions.
So something like 4-5% of people who were able to apply in time (55/1250) received offers in this round. Those people should feel pretty great about making it through this gauntlet.
Of course, ALJ hiring has always been like this, in the sense that you put in a lot of effort for a relatively narrow shot at the prize. At least in the current process, candidates avoid the no-expenses-paid trips to DC!
In terms of other good news--if your application was accepted, then you are likely still on the Register-Like-List (I'm going to call this the RLL) that might be used for any additional ALJ hiring in FY2023.
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Post by badger on Sept 27, 2022 18:33:29 GMT -5
The CR that advanced through the House has $400 million of the extra $800 million the Commissioner asked for. (This can still change) Hopefully that means they have some money for hiring over the next 10 weeks.
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Post by operationalj on Sept 28, 2022 7:01:49 GMT -5
The CR that advanced through the House has $400 million of the extra $800 million the Commissioner asked for. (This can still change) Hopefully that means they have some money for hiring over the next 10 weeks. I've observed SSA management hire extensively and effectively when the budget is available because they know the monies can disappear quickly... and they do, e.g., no hiring of ALJs for the last 5 years. Other larger fed govt agencies are filling positions throughout December 2022 because they have not had the budget to hire for a while and fear it can change at any moment. Therefore, it is possible there will be more hiring over the next 10 weeks but no training until next year with the holidays approaching and 2022 ALJ training starting soon. I would be pleasantly surprised but it is possible. I'm choosing optimism.  |
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Post by george1 on Sept 28, 2022 11:24:44 GMT -5
I hope you are right and extra money might mean more hires. However, the Commissioner had asked for double what is appropriated by the House. Fingers crossed something gets passed and the Agency gets additional funding resulting in more overtime, additional ALJ hires, etc.
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Post by hank863 on Sept 29, 2022 14:09:24 GMT -5
I know it's not likely....but is there ANY reasonable argument that they would put out a brand new hiring announcement because of how quick the original one filled up, lack of west coast applicants, etc...?
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Post by Pixie on Sept 29, 2022 14:46:01 GMT -5
I know it's not likely....but is there ANY reasonable argument that they would put out a brand new hiring announcement because of how quick the original one filled up, lack of west coast applicants, etc...? TPTB don't care about that. It is expensive and time consuming to process an announcement. This one will last until the Agency has gotten as much out of it that it can. When the desirable insiders have been hired, then it may consider another announcement. Pixie |
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Post by britty27 on Sept 29, 2022 15:05:46 GMT -5
Does this mean you think only insiders will continue to be selected moving forward?
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Post by Pixie on Sept 29, 2022 16:26:11 GMT -5
Does this mean you think only insiders will continue to be selected moving forward? They will continue to take all of the desirable insiders they can get. Why go with an unknown quantity when a known is sitting there on the list? Pixie |
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Post by britty27 on Sept 29, 2022 17:38:45 GMT -5
That's frustrating for those that represent claimants and appear in front of SSA already. Good to know though.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 29, 2022 22:11:56 GMT -5
That's frustrating for those that represent claimants and appear in front of SSA already. Good to know though. Not saying you are definitely out, but just that insiders will take precedence. Pixie |
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Post by legallysufficient on Sept 30, 2022 15:40:40 GMT -5
Hi Pixie
As always, thanks for the great info! I was one of the ones that interviewed, but did not get the call. Do you have any thoughts on the likelihood of those that fall in this category (interviewed, but not selected this go-around)still being in the running versus a determination by the agency that we are not being selected?
It would be nice to know if we are still under consideration. My guess is we will never know unless and until we get the call. Lastly, if you were to guess, what would you place odds at on more hires before end of December 2022? As always, thank you for your perspective!
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Post by Pixie on Sept 30, 2022 15:56:08 GMT -5
Hi Pixie As always, thanks for the great info! I was one of the ones that interviewed, but did not get the call. Do you have any thoughts on the likelihood of those that fall in this category (interviewed, but not selected this go-around)still being in the running versus a determination by the agency that we are not being selected? It would be nice to know if we are still under consideration. My guess is we will never know unless and until we get the call. Lastly, if you were to guess, what would you place odds at on more hires before end of December 2022? As always, thank you for your perspective! I think you are very much still in the running. The Agency will use this list until it has depleted the most desirable candidates, then it will probably start agitating for a new announcement. I think any further hiring will be after the first of the year, probably with the class starting in March, or thereabouts. Pixie |
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