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Post by Pixie on May 19, 2023 10:21:00 GMT -5
What about half-bloods? Are feds that are not SSA considered half-bloods? It depends upon whether it's a volume knob or an on/off switch. Perhaps it goes up to 11. . The volume control on my Fender amps goes up to 11, so there is precedent. Pixie
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Post by fowlfinder on May 19, 2023 10:57:46 GMT -5
It depends upon whether it's a volume knob or an on/off switch. Perhaps it goes up to 11. . The volume control on my Fender amps goes up to 11, so there is precedent. Pixie Marshals do too. (Though I prefer a fender myself as well).
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Post by peanutfancy on May 19, 2023 13:20:27 GMT -5
. The volume control on my Fender amps goes up to 11, so there is precedent. Pixie Marshals do too. (Though I prefer a fender myself as well). It's funny every time.
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Post by operationalj on May 20, 2023 3:28:01 GMT -5
I'm a 2022 interviewee, and I don't want to post that much this time since I have a sneaking suspicion that my "outsider" Muggle blood is going to keep me out of the mix, but someone closer to the agency must have an update as to what "soon" means, right? Apparently, 20 outsiders with "Muggle blood" were selected based on the recent update... so more difficult for outsiders, yes, but not impossible. My guess is that if you are an outsider and were even invited to interview, consider yourself fortunate.
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Post by operationalj on May 21, 2023 8:00:59 GMT -5
Have we gotten a second source on the 60? I’ve heard from someone “in the know” that the hiring committee is meeting this week. While the number may end up being right, the source (NTEU???) and the timing (before the hiring committee has met) are pretty odd. Haven’t heard anything to counter, it’s just strange. I guess time will tell. But calls are extremely unlikely to go out this week, or before June. Did we ever get a second source on intel that there are 60 new ALJs (40/20 insiders, outsiders)?
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Post by legallysufficient on May 21, 2023 9:36:56 GMT -5
I do not recall seeing a second source on that.
Not that this matters, but if agency is on same timeline as 2022, June 2 would be the day for calls, no?
Time will tell.
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Post by operationalj on May 21, 2023 11:21:53 GMT -5
I do not recall seeing a second source on that. Not that this matters, but if agency is on same timeline as 2022, June 2 would be the day for calls, no? Time will tell. Hmmm - I don't recall a second source either. You're right - Time will tell.
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Post by justhinkin on May 22, 2023 10:08:29 GMT -5
**IMPORTANT** I have spoken with the NTEU Chapter 224 President, who asked me to correct the inaccurate information posted about the Agency confirming 60 new ALJ hires, 40 internal and 7 which are NTEU members. THIS IS NOT ACCURATE! The question asked by NTEU to the Agency at the meeting was about how many hires and the breakdown of new Judges hired during the last round. IT IS NOT RELEVANT to the current hiring process.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 10:30:56 GMT -5
Those aren’t even right for the last round.
Geez….
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Post by justhinkin on May 22, 2023 10:35:32 GMT -5
Have we gotten a second source on the 60? I’ve heard from someone “in the know” that the hiring committee is meeting this week. While the number may end up being right, the source (NTEU???) and the timing (before the hiring committee has met) are pretty odd. Haven’t heard anything to counter, it’s just strange. I guess time will tell. But calls are extremely unlikely to go out this week, or before June. Unfortunately, a NTEU union steward misunderstood the information and posted the inaccuracy. The NTEU Chapter 224 President asked me to post a retraction/correction. The question that was asked about the hiring at the meeting, was regarding the LAST hiring process - NOT THE CURRENT PROCESS. The Agency has not provided any information about the number of ALJ's to be hired during this current application process and has not provided any information regarding insiders vs. outsiders or members of NTEU.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2023 10:43:59 GMT -5
Okay- so where does that leave us? Someone said 35 or so before? Where did that come from?
With training class in August, and committee meeting last week, calls going out sometime in June?
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Post by legallysufficient on May 22, 2023 11:00:31 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone with any real information can add to this discussion. Hopefully the calls come soon regardless.
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Post by neufenland on May 22, 2023 11:13:02 GMT -5
My thoughts are to not panic and always pack a towel.
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Post by peanutfancy on May 22, 2023 12:04:38 GMT -5
My thoughts are to not panic and always pack a towel. The answer, of course, is 42.
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on May 22, 2023 15:53:57 GMT -5
My thoughts are to not panic and always pack a towel. The answer, of course, is 42. 42 days after the end of this round of interviews is Friday, May 26. 42 days after that is Friday, July 7. 42: the answer to life, the universe, and everything, including the window for hiring calls.
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Post by fowlfinder on May 23, 2023 10:47:06 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone with any real information can add to this discussion. Hopefully the calls come soon regardless. Well with the NTEU info retracted the only real substantive info is (1) Ramspider's information that the hiring committee meet all last week (5/15-5/19), and (2) the start/training dates disclosed for August. With the ACOSS still needing to sign off on whatever that committee concluded, whatever time table can be divined should fit within that framework. Draw your conclusions and maybe you'll be correct. A poll may also be in order. In past times that has been a good place to expend nervous energy.
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Post by hillsarealive on May 23, 2023 11:31:41 GMT -5
I wonder if anyone with any real information can add to this discussion. Hopefully the calls come soon regardless. Well with the NTEU info retracted the only real substantive info is (1) Ramspider's information that the hiring committee meet all last week (5/15-5/19), and (2) the start/training dates disclosed for August. With the ACOSS still needing to sign off on whatever that committee concluded, whatever time table can be divined should fit within that framework. Draw your conclusions and maybe you'll be correct. A poll may also be in order. In past times that has been a good place to expend nervous energy. Good idea fowlfinder . I threw together a poll based on last year's version. 2023 ALJ hiring--when will offers start?
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Post by roymcavoy on May 23, 2023 13:26:59 GMT -5
It’s obviously a different animal than last year, but I think we can at least identify parameters……
If you calculate offer date based on the date after last interview, there was a 6 week gap between the end of interviews and offers in 2022…. That would make calls happen on or around June 9.
If we assume report date is as we think - Aug 7 - and we go off the 3-4 week timeline they generally give folks to close up shop, then Jul 7/14 would seem to be the likely dates for offers. Thus, sadly, I don’t think we can be any more precise than that—somewhere between Jun 9 and July 14.
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Post by neufenland on May 24, 2023 8:24:50 GMT -5
It’s obviously a different animal than last year, but I think we can at least identify parameters…… If you calculate offer date based on the date after last interview, there was a 6 week gap between the end of interviews and offers in 2022…. That would make calls happen on or around June 9. If we assume report date is as we think - Aug 7 - and we go off the 3-4 week timeline they generally give folks to close up shop, then Jul 7/14 would seem to be the likely dates for offers. Thus, sadly, I don’t think we can be any more precise than that—somewhere between Jun 9 and July 14. I think it will be by mid-June at the latest as the 2022 cohort had interviews in early July 2022, and I wonder if "staleness" becomes a concern if not offered prior to that (assuming that 2022 cohort is still in the mix, of course). Again, I'll be like Petunia Dursley watching you all get Hogwarts letters with nada for me, but... Perhaps someone with some OPM/fed HR knowledge could shed light, but I've heard through rumors that the interview is only good for a year before you'd need to reinterview (assuming position hasn't closed by then)? Any truth to this? I can't find a citation, but I've definitely heard it before. I still think it will be before July, and people should keep checking the skies for owls. Muggles get an email from OPM when the announcement closes...
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on May 28, 2023 15:10:11 GMT -5
Years from now, if anyone asks me about the worst part of the ALJ hiring process, it won’t be the application, the apprehension, or the ambiguity.
It’ll be all of those dadgumm telemarketing calls that I can’t stop answering.
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