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Post by junebug on Sept 30, 2008 17:41:54 GMT -5
Any idea what the notification looks like if you make it to the written test/interview?
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Post by semipa on Sept 30, 2008 18:05:16 GMT -5
Here is last year's notification, which I received on July 11. My AR was marked complete about a week earlier on July 2:
Congratulations! You have met the criteria to proceed to the remaining assessment parts of the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) examination consisting of the Written Demonstration (WD) and Structured Interview (SI) described below.
Written Demonstration (WD): The purpose of the WD is to evaluate your ability to prepare a clear, concise, and well-reasoned legal decision of the type that one might be expected to write if employed as an ALJ. The WD is an assessment exercise that is conducted in a proctored environment and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following four competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Judicial Analysis, and (4) Writing. You will take the examination using a laptop computer provided by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM). Although the actual WD will last approximately four (4) hours, you should plan to arrive at least 30 minutes early to allow time to clear building security; you should also allow time after the test is concluded to complete certain administrative requirements.
Structured Interview (SI): The objective of the SI is to evaluate your responses regarding situations related to being an ALJ. A panel of experts consisting of an OPM chairperson, a sitting ALJ, and a private attorney will conduct the interview and evaluate your responses. The interview will last approximately one hour and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following seven competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Self-Management, (4) Interpersonal Skills, (5) Oral Communication, (6) Stress Tolerance, and (7) Judicial Management.
You will receive separate scheduling notices informing you of the date, time, and location of the WD and SI, as well as other instructions about the process. The WD and SI will be conducted on different, non-consecutive days beginning the week of July 24, 2007 and concluding during the week of Sept. 24, 2007. Applicants must complete the WD before they can undertake the SI. Both assessments will be administered in Washington, DC. Attendance will be at your own expense.
Applicants who complete both assessment processes will be notified of their final ratings when all applicants have completed these exercises. Those who receive "eligible" ratings will be placed on the new ALJ register which will be used as a source of names to make referrals to agencies for employment consideration.
Sincerely,
Administrative Law Judge Examining Office
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.
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Post by aljkeb123 on Sept 30, 2008 18:26:59 GMT -5
My friend who applied along with me received her NOR results today as well. I still haven't received any word on my application since the 9/24/08 status update. I wonder if they are just releasing results in no particular order and there may be more adverse results coming tomorrow?
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Post by junebug on Sept 30, 2008 18:29:39 GMT -5
Thanks Semipa!
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Post by reapplicant on Sept 30, 2008 19:40:12 GMT -5
As to the rating, I dug out my old NOR and it said "Rating: 0"
The new one says "Rating: IAR"
I'm guessing that somebody at OPM decided that telling experienced lawyers that their career accomplishments rated a zero was a provocation to file appeals.
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Post by mississippi on Sept 30, 2008 23:08:47 GMT -5
120 SSA hearings, 13 jury trials to verdict, numerous appeals, Federal Court Administrative law litigation, studied administrative law in law school, being told by OPM that I am not qualified PRICELESS
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Post by pm on Oct 1, 2008 0:10:16 GMT -5
Don't make the mistake of thinking that you are competing against a blank slate. You are competing against many attorneys who have more than 20 years as litigators.
And keep in mind that none of your experience is relevant if you didn't explain how it fit within the 6 competencies.
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Post by mississippi on Oct 1, 2008 5:50:00 GMT -5
Wow thanks for your wisdom
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Post by pm on Oct 1, 2008 9:13:54 GMT -5
And thanks for the sarcasm. Like me, the folks at OPM love sarcasm. So make sure that when you apply again, you do exactly what you did this time, but add a little more sarcasm.
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Post by deaddisco on Oct 1, 2008 9:39:50 GMT -5
And thanks for the sarcasm. Like me, the folks at OPM love sarcasm. So make sure that when you apply again, you do exactly what you did this time, but add a little more sarcasm. solid. opm loves them teh sarcasm |
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Post by barkley on Oct 1, 2008 10:15:27 GMT -5
Before this thread totally derails, let me ask this. Has anyone received any word from OPM today?
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Post by aljkeb123 on Oct 1, 2008 10:38:39 GMT -5
I still haven't heard anything since the 9/24/08 to update my Accomplishment Record status to "complete."
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Post by traceb on Oct 1, 2008 11:13:52 GMT -5
I have not received anything, although another person in my office who applied received notice of rejection yesterday afternoon. I was also wondering how they are releasing the NOR's, is it by name, first or last or by your e-mail address. Both my first name and the first letter of my e-mail begin with T. My last name begins with B. The person in my office who received her NOR yesterday has a last name beginning with D and an e-mail beginning with M.
Are they releasing the rejections first and then releasing the NOR's to people who made the cut? I can't figure out how they are doing this and it is driving me mad. I'd just like to know; either way, so I can stop wonering.
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Post by ALJD on Oct 1, 2008 11:19:55 GMT -5
Before this thread totally derails Folks, Last merry go around, some forum regulars picked up ALJ positions, and many others didn't. When rejection happens, it's tough for the ego and psyche (especially for lawyers). While it may or may not be justified, none of us will really know short of a lengthy lawsuit since OPM operates in a black box. And the not knowing part really gnaws on many passed over candidates. Therefore, people feel the urge to vent, and that's completely understandable and acceptable. Just be considerate of each other and try to be supportive, OK?  P.S. Can someone start a new thread for venting? I'd like to keep this thread clean for NOR results. Thanks. |
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Post by barkley on Oct 1, 2008 11:39:32 GMT -5
I have not received anything, although another person in my office who applied received notice of rejection yesterday afternoon. I was also wondering how they are releasing the NOR's, is it by name, first or last or by your e-mail address. Both my first name and the first letter of my e-mail begin with T. My last name begins with B. The person in my office who received her NOR yesterday has a last name beginning with D and an e-mail beginning with M. Are they releasing the rejections first and then releasing the NOR's to people who made the cut? I can't figure out how they are doing this and it is driving me mad. I'd just like to know; either way, so I can stop wonering. I don't think it is alphabetical. I have a friend whose last name shares the first two letters with my last name. Both of our names are in the first third of the alphabet (aka "Edmonds" and "Edwards") He received an email yesterday stating he did not meet the AR score and I have not heard yet. My e-mail address is even earlier in the alphabet than my name. |
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Post by workdrone on Oct 1, 2008 12:15:52 GMT -5
For anyone who received a positive notice, was there anything about test dates in your email? I am an appellant and was invited to take the tests in July but I am still awaiting word on my actual test dates. No report of positive NOR to date. It will probably come in the next few days. I would expect OPM to contact you at the same time they contact the rest of the candidates who advanced to the WD/SI portion of the exam. Of course, you can always e-mail the ALJ Help Desk now to make sure they don't forget about you. |
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Post by northwest on Oct 1, 2008 12:28:07 GMT -5
I just received my invitation. Here's the full text of the e-mail:
Congratulations! You have met the criteria to proceed to the remaining assessment parts of the Administrative Law Judge (ALJ) examination consisting of the Written Demonstration (WD) and Structured Interview (SI) described below.
Written Demonstration (WD): The purpose of the WD is to evaluate your ability to prepare a clear, concise, and well-reasoned legal decision of the type that one might be expected to write if employed as an ALJ. The WD is an assessment exercise that is conducted in a proctored environment and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following four competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Judicial Analysis, and (4) Writing. You will take the examination using a laptop computer provided by the U.S. Office of Personnel Management (OPM). Although the actual WD will last approximately four (4) hours, you should plan to arrive at least 30 minutes early to allow time to clear building security; you should also allow time after the test is concluded to complete certain administrative requirements.
Structured Interview (SI): The objective of the SI is to evaluate your responses regarding situations related to being an ALJ. A panel of experts consisting of an OPM chairperson, a sitting ALJ, and a private attorney will conduct the interview and evaluate your responses. The interview will last approximately one hour and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following seven competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Self-Management, (4) Interpersonal Skills, (5) Oral Communication, (6) Stress Tolerance, and (7) Judicial Management.
You will receive separate scheduling notices informing you of the date, time, and location of the WD and SI, as well as other instructions about the process. The WD and SI will be conducted on different, non-consecutive days beginning the week of October 20, 2008, with the WD concluding in early December 2008 and the SI concluding in mid-February 2009. Applicants must complete the WD before they can undertake the SI. Both assessments will be administered in Washington, DC. Attendance will be at your own expense.
Applicants who complete both assessment processes will be notified of their final ratings when all applicants have completed these exercises. Those who receive "eligible" ratings will be added to the existing ALJ register which will be used as a source of names to make referrals to agencies for employment consideration.
Sincerely,
Administrative Law Judge Examining Office
PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND TO THIS EMAIL MESSAGE. IT IS AUTOMATICALLY GENERATED.
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Post by workdrone on Oct 1, 2008 12:35:05 GMT -5
Workdrone, On the NOR poll someone voted that they were invited to take the exam. so I assumed some people have gotten a positive notice. I emailed ALJ Help Desk about 4 weeks ago regarding my test dates and still have no response. Doh. My apologies. It does look like the the positive NORs are released. |
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Post by barkley on Oct 1, 2008 12:58:03 GMT -5
I just got mine as well. Good luck to everyone.
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Post by traceb on Oct 1, 2008 13:06:25 GMT -5
I just received my NOR. It began with "congratulations." I made the initial cut. I hope everyone else gets good news as well.
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