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Post by barkley on Nov 9, 2008 19:51:59 GMT -5
I really did try search the file for this answer, but could not find it.
There was some discussion last year about the score breakdown. Some folks had emailed OPM, other were considering FOIA requests and the like.
Did anyone ever figure out how the sections were weighted or the subtotals of their scores?
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Post by morgullord on Nov 9, 2008 20:45:25 GMT -5
In general, scoring matched a bell curve with the peak in the mid 60's
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Post by morgullord on Nov 9, 2008 20:49:22 GMT -5
My conclusions were based on a sampling of about 1/3 of the scores.
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Post by blackswan on Nov 9, 2008 21:07:52 GMT -5
I think he meant the weight/grades given for the AR, WD and SI individually. My impression is that you receive one grade and no breakdown.
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Post by southerner on Nov 9, 2008 22:38:11 GMT -5
No one I know has received any individual component score. Only the total has been provided. No breakdown is available, although some have tried FOIA.
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Post by pm on Nov 9, 2008 23:46:44 GMT -5
I really did try search the file for this answer, but could not find it. There was some discussion last year about the score breakdown. Some folks had emailed OPM, other were considering FOIA requests and the like. Did anyone ever figure out how the sections were weighted or the subtotals of their scores? No one knows their breakdown, only their total score. The best theory I have heard regarding the weighting, which is supported by some obtuse OPM language, is that there are 8 components to the score: the WD, the SI and each of the 6 questions on the application.
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Post by zero on Nov 10, 2008 15:37:51 GMT -5
There is a discussion of the WD on the wild wild west that might help.
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Post by blackswan on Nov 11, 2008 2:27:23 GMT -5
Another theory based on an Oct. 30, 2007 email from OPM is that the AR, WD, and SI are of equal weight. This, however, puts a lot of credence in a one hour interview and the opinions of the two or three people conducting it. [See the weighting discussion of March 25-27, 2008 on page 10 of this board in the thread "Was anyone ever able to get the breakdown on score?"]
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Post by pm on Nov 11, 2008 9:52:43 GMT -5
That is similar to the theory that assigns equal weight to each AR question and the WD and SI. The only difference is how you decipher the OPM email language.
The OPM email said that "The competencies were made equal in importance, so that each competency carried equal weight." Someone analyzed this by concluding the AR is one competency. If you read all correspondence from OPM it's pretty clear that the AR tests 6 competencies. Thus, each competency of the AR is weighted 1/8, as are the WD and SI.
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Post by float on Nov 11, 2008 12:46:38 GMT -5
I'm not an oldtimer, but I don't understand why the presumption seems to be that the WD and the SI are one competency. What competency would that be testing - your ability to interview?
The OPM email containing the invitation to continue clearly says that the WD tests 4 competencies: "WD is an assessment exercise that is conducted in a proctored environment and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following four competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Judicial Analysis, and (4) Writing."
That same email says, about the SI, " The interview will last approximately one hour and is designed to evaluate your abilities in the following seven competencies: (1) Reasoning, (2) Decision Making, (3) Self-Management, (4) Interpersonal Skills, (5) Oral Communication, (6) Stress Tolerance, and (7) Judicial Management."
Obviously there are some competencies which are of such importance that they are being evaluated in several different contexts, between the AR, the WD and the SI. Altogether, there are 9 competencies identified.
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Post by blackswan on Nov 11, 2008 20:17:18 GMT -5
So under this theory we have 9 competencies that overlap in the forums where they are graded:
1. Decision making--AR,WD,SI 2. Oral communications--AR,SI 3. Interpersonal skills--AR,SI 4. Reasoning--WD,SI 5. Judicial analysis--AR,WD 6. Judicial management--AR,SI 7. Stress tolerance--SI 8. Self management--SI 9. Writing--WD
Aren't stress tolerance and self management from only one source getting a lot of weight this way?
On the old register wasn't the grade in 4 parts (which you clearly received in 4 separate numbers) and approximately something like the SQS (AR) was 50%, WD 25%, SI 10%, and references 15%. And you then knew your weakness and what to appeal.
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Post by hooligan on Nov 11, 2008 21:33:19 GMT -5
I am not sure what your question is.
The reality is that you need to do as well as possible on each element to accumulate the highest possible score. Getting into details would only help you after the fact to challenge your score. So far, I have not seen any breakdown on scoring that would be helpful. I would love to see a report from someone who was successful with a FOIA request. If it has been posted here, I have missed it.
The ALJ exam process is both flawed and skewed by the veteran's preference. Anyone who purports to explain it in rational terms is delusional. Do the best you can and hope for some luck.
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Post by pm on Nov 11, 2008 22:07:02 GMT -5
I am not sure what your question is. The reality is that you need to do as well as possible on each element to accumulate the highest possible score. Getting into details would only help you after the fact to challenge your score. So far, I have not seen any breakdown on scoring that would be helpful. I would love to see a report from someone who was successful with a FOIA request. If it has been posted here, I have missed it. The ALJ exam process is both flawed and skewed by the veteran's preference. Anyone who purports to explain it in rational terms is delusional. Do the best you can and hope for some luck. Best post ever!
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