USMC Birthday

[Pixie]

Happy Birthday, Jarheads! Pix.

[cincinnatus]

Thanks! Ooh-Rah! 233 years!

[workdrone]

Devil Dogs,

A belated Happy Birthday from a former Navy Black Shoe! ;D

[chieftain]

Remembering this discussion with my late father, when I was an undergrad in NROTC and contemplating going the Marine option route:

Dad: I didn't send you to ______ University so you could become one of those Jugheads.
Me: Dad, they're called Jarheads.
Dad: I don't care what they're called because you're not going to be one!

I never quite understood his major malfunction about that, but I stayed Navy, and very proudly, I might add. I also had the honor of serving alongside Marines while assigned to an ancient amphibious ship. Happy B'day Marine Corps.

[Pixie]

Nov 12, 2008 22:58:05 GMT -5 cincinnatus said:

Thanks! Ooh-Rah! 233 years!

No offense Cincinnatus, but I believe that is something the Army says? In real life it sounds rather seal like!

The Army motto is actually, "Duty, Honor, Country." The Marines' motto is "Semper Fidelis," or Semper Fi for short. Pix.

[workdrone]

Nov 14, 2008 19:08:27 GMT -5 Pixie said:

No offense Cincinnatus, but I believe that is something the Army says? In real life it sounds rather seal like!

Pix,

Army is "Hoo-Rah". Marine is "Ooh-Rah". I know. I was confused when I first heard it too. Maybe that's why my old wardroom used to call our Marine buddies "Naval Infantry." ;D

Here's the history:

usmilitary.about.com/od/jointservices/a/hooah.htm

[Pixie]

Thanks for the lesson and for the link. Although the link notes that the Army pronounces it "hooah." There is no r in the second syllable in the Army pronunciation, but there is in the Marine version--ooh-rah. Very confusing. Hooah, Pixie (The Seal).

[mango]

Thanks Pixie.

[chieftain]

What about Al Pacino's famous "Hoo Hah?" Just his own personalization of the army rendition, or is it an accepted and time honored alternate version of the army way?

[decadealj]

Thanks Pix. At one time, there were at least 10 former Marine Judge Adocates who were sitting ALJs. I think three of those have retired. Semper Fi

[cincinnatus]

"Duty, Honor, Country" is the motto of West Point or "Hudson High". "This We'll Defend" is the motto of the U. S. Army. Having attended Annapolis or "Canoe U", where the motto is "Non sibi, Sed Patriae" or "Not Self, But Country", I am versed in both branches of the naval service, and am a proud recipient of a "Ranger Tab" from my distinguished fellow Army infantry warriors. There is not a Marine alive who doesn't know the meaning of Semper Fidelis or Semper Fi. Excellent point, decade alj.

[vietnamveteran]

That's pretty good. I have never known a Navy man with a ranger tab. I was commissioned from Fort Benning Infantry OCS. After coming off active duty and attending law school I went in the Reserves in the JAG corps, retiring as an 0-6. Spent a lot of time in Charlottesville. There was mention of 10 Marine JAGS as ALJs. I would guess there have been many more Army JAGS as ALJs.

[shadow]

Don't know about you officer types, but us pfcs and lance corporals added a few words to the Semper Fi motto. . .bet you know what I mean. ;D Despite a little cynasism, I think most of us [then very young] enlisted men were [and are] proud to serve. Semper Fi.

[decadealj]

Bravo Shadow. Many folks don't know that every Marine, including Judge Advocates are trained first and foremost as Marine riflemen. Every Marine lawyer begins his career at The Basic School trained as an infantry platoon leader. When I was in Vietnam, Marine Judge Advocates were assigned as platoon leaders for the first three months in-country. If they lived long enoughj or din't fget wounded and medevaced, they got to practice law the rest of their tour. Like the Coast Guard, Marine Judge Advocates serve in non-attorney billets. In the last 30 years, Marine lawyers served as Chief of Staff, 1st MarDiv, Commanding Officer at Gitmo (before it became infamous, like in the movie A Few Good Men) and Commanding General, MCB Quantico.

[decadealj]

Sorry for the typos- I am a lousy typist, data entry clerk and now a case technician ( I get to exhibit all the newly bar code faxed evidence submitted the night before/morning of the hearing). Nothing like 600 pages of VA records subitted an hour before the hearing! And you get to click on every page!