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Post by deltajudge on Jan 13, 2009 18:52:43 GMT -5
8-)Pixie is going to fuss at me. It amazes me when I Look at the postings here. It is like finding the golden grail if you get an ALJ appointment. There are a lot better things out there, and you will keep your independence and self relience. ODAR is a dead end.  |
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Post by morgullord on Jan 13, 2009 21:35:39 GMT -5
No matter what one agency's personnel may think of another agency's personnel, an agency will defend itself vigorously if criticized.
There are times when I miss al-Junaynah and all it offered.
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Post by Pixie on Jan 13, 2009 21:40:36 GMT -5
DeltaJudge: Chill. Pixie.
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Post by pm on Jan 13, 2009 21:59:01 GMT -5
8-)Pixie is going to fuss at me. It amazes me when I Look at the postings here. It is like finding the golden grail if you get an ALJ appointment. There are a lot better things out there, and you will keep your independence and self relience. ODAR is a dead end. Well, you're off topic again. No surprise there. You only have one topic. There are not a lot of better things out there. There are no jobs where you keep your independence and self reliance. If not working for the government, you are either a slave to your corporation, your partners or your clients, or in some cases, all three. Instead of continually posting off topic, why don't you start a new thread and tell us about the other wonderful legal jobs that are out there? I am not being sarcastic or nasty. It there are wonderful jobs out there, I'm sure we would all like you to educate us on what those jobs are. And if we think you are incorrect, we can educate you. |
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Post by pm on Jan 13, 2009 22:08:42 GMT -5
OPM problaby conducted the 2008 exam to give a chance to those who were unable to submit the application by the closing date in 2007. As someone said here, I would think that they would open a window in 2010. As for now, they might have enough candidates to serve their needs. Yes, OPM was concerned that its practice of limiting the applicants may have unfairly shut out some deserving applicants who were not as quick on the draw. That's why it ran the 2008 exam. PMSL Zero, you seem like a really nice guy but you should quit making the assumption that everyone at OPM is like you. OPM absolutely does not believe that they did anything unfair in 2007. OPM reopened the exam because they realized they might have to reopen it once between 2007 and 2010. They had a little pressure from ODAR so they reopened it in 2008. That's it. |
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Post by privateatty on Jan 13, 2009 23:24:48 GMT -5
Well, even if DeltaJudge does not in his take a majority make, there is no lack of opinion, born of experience. I think the Board thrives with strong opinion. Just ask our favorite posters. On this I respectfully disagree with Pixie.
One good thing that comes from being a trial lawyer is that you understand the old adage "there are two sides to every story" (sometimes, of course, a lot more) in all its metaphysical glory. Would anyone in the government trade to be one of John Grisham's characters before he or she did what ever they did (or even after). I strongly suspect most of the posters are making more than the median income for a lawyer. I would warrant that well over half of the private sector has had to face sleepless nights worrying about cases and troubling clients, income and cash flow, etc. Of course, DeltaJudge is right about our independence and self reliance. I don't ask permission to take whatever time off I want and take the clients I want to represent. Almost all of us have made this decision of private/public with our feet, if not our hearts, a long time ago.
Oh and pm, please give morgullord's post a read again.
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Post by Pixie on Jan 14, 2009 6:35:05 GMT -5
PA: Whether you agree or disagree with me is not important. What is important that we not get too far from the core of the topic. DJ has an annoyng habit of randomly posting the same message in whatever thread he comes across.
End of discussion. Please try to veer back to the topic at hand. Pixie.
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Post by zero on Jan 14, 2009 10:13:29 GMT -5
Yes, OPM was concerned that its practice of limiting the applicants may have unfairly shut out some deserving applicants who were not as quick on the draw. That's why it ran the 2008 exam. PMSL Zero, you seem like a really nice guy but you should quit making the assumption that everyone at OPM is like you. OPM absolutely does not believe that they did anything unfair in 2007. OPM reopened the exam because they realized they might have to reopen it once between 2007 and 2010. They had a little pressure from ODAR so they reopened it in 2008. That's it. I'm not sure if you missed the irony or got the irony and thought I was being too hard on OPM. In any respect, if we had OPM's most vocal advocate here I'm sure he/she would concede that the exam was not opened in 2008 to accommodate the applicants. Maybe the process is fair and maybe it isn't. But it is not designed for the comfort and convenience of the potential applicants. |
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Post by morgullord on Jan 14, 2009 11:29:40 GMT -5
As humans we are all subject to strong feelings on topics that affect us. That said, it is wise to recall the advice Mr. Spock gave to Dr. McCoy: "You must control your animal passions; they will be your undoing."
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Post by zero on Jan 26, 2009 10:51:28 GMT -5
Uh, where did we land on this issue? Is there going to be a 2009 exam or not?
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Post by blackswan on Jan 26, 2009 20:00:22 GMT -5
Rereading it, I think the general mood was no 2009 exam. The evidence tends against it.
First, nothing has been said about it, whereas the 2008 exam was talked about in 2007.
The 2008 exam was much smaller than 2007 and the register is good until 2010. It has that winding down look.
The time line of March/April grades, April/May interviews, June/July hiring and August/ September ALJ classes sounds like a full fiscal year without wanting any background static of a new hire.
But anything is possible and should be no surprise.
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Post by flannery on Jan 27, 2009 11:15:12 GMT -5
I agree w/Blackswan--anything is possible and should be no surprise. But the best I can recall--we really didn't know they were going to reopen the 2007 register until they opened it -- as I recall, the COSS had made informal statements here and there in June that he really wanted OPM to reopen it and then fairly shortly after that, it was reopened and folks like Zero and I jumped in to try again. It really wouldn't surprise me at all if they didn't deposit another layer of applicants on top of the 2007 and 2008 applicants, but if it plays out that way, I bet it doesn't happen before the summer or before they make selections from the 2007-2008 applicants. All this is just total speculation on my part--designed to reinforce the impression that in this mysterious, unpredictable process, almost anything is possible. That is why lady luck is the best metaphor for all of this, as far as I'm concerned...
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Post by judicature on Jan 27, 2009 19:36:40 GMT -5
....and a rabbit's foot too, eh flannery ? ;D
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