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Post by lawcat on Mar 2, 2009 23:18:09 GMT -5
If a person gets selected for training, when do you start receiving regular pay? And what are the chances of not making it through training- have people "failed" training and gotten kicked out?
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Post by hod on Mar 3, 2009 8:54:21 GMT -5
Welcome to the government! Once selected you now have a lifetime ticket to work. I suppose that it is theoretically possible to get thrown out but it does not happen. There is no test. The only diference that I have seen in recent years, is that the new Commish seems to be hot and heavy about the "numbers" ( a word never before spoken with regard to ALJ's) So far it seems that any "removals" have stemmed from intimidation causing those "appointed for life" to quit. The only real reason I know of that can cause an ALJ to lose her/his position is really bad behavior-the type that attracts legal interest or some major violation of ethical standards.
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Post by buttercup on Mar 3, 2009 9:04:06 GMT -5
It is my understanding that you start getting paid as of the official start date at your new office, which is generally a couple of weeks prior to training. You start receiving regular pay and accumulating leave.
And there's no "failing" training, you would have to be removed for something way more egregious than that.
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Post by atticus on Mar 3, 2009 9:10:13 GMT -5
Last year we were notified of our offers on/about February 27th. There were intitially 3 training groups, with members of the first training group reporting to their duty stations on April 13th, the next in mid-May, and the last (originally--remember, they added one more froup later) in mid-June. Your hire date is the first day of that pay period, and you work in the hearing office for 2 weeks before you depart for 4 weeks of training.
Things will happen MUCH more quickly now. The SSA interviews were set up to begin less than 3 months after the notice of results were released; the offers were issued no more than about 7 weeks after that. Part of the timing will depend on how many candidates they interview. The certitifate provided will generally have 3 times the number of namecandidates they intend to hire in that round. Once the offers are out, though, the first group will be expected to be in place in less than 2 months, if they do it the way they did last year.
As so many have said--take a deep breath--the longest, most agonizing part of the wait is over. Everybody who has a score still has a chance, especialy if it's another big hire. The fact that you have a score at all means you have already been found to be fully qualified. The rest is part luck, part geography, and a lot YOU. GOOD LUCK!
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Post by lawcat on Mar 3, 2009 10:13:37 GMT -5
Thanks for all of your responses. I'm still amazed that the folks who are now ALJ's are willing to take the time to answer questions for us wanna be's. I guess you can still remember how it felt when you were in our shoes.
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Post by Legal Beagle on Mar 3, 2009 10:57:03 GMT -5
I understand that the interviews are being scheduled for the week of April 20 in Falls Church for150 SSA ALJs.
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Post by ed on Mar 3, 2009 11:00:28 GMT -5
Are you comfortable with your source of that nugget of information?
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Post by hod on Mar 3, 2009 11:10:08 GMT -5
Right now interviewers are set up for the week of the 20th so I am sure that is when the interviews will begin. Those of you who made the grade should get a call soon to set up a date and time. Good news is uncle pays for this one. They need about 450 interviews to get 150 ALJ's, but some people already had an interview last time around and, I am pretty sure they won't get another.
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Post by ed on Mar 3, 2009 11:14:37 GMT -5
I was hoping that there may be a quicker turn around so that this madness would end. Patience is a virture.
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Post by Legal Beagle on Mar 3, 2009 11:22:50 GMT -5
"Are you comfortable with your source of that nugget of information?"
Regional Chief ALJ
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Post by ed on Mar 3, 2009 11:30:41 GMT -5
Sounds pretty credible to me.
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