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Post by gadourylaw on Mar 19, 2009 20:08:20 GMT -5
I am filling out all the required paperwork but I do not know the e-mail addresses of the judges and some of my references. Is anybody else in the same boat ? Does anyone think this is absolutely required ?
Thank you.
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Post by Legal Beagle on Mar 19, 2009 20:21:00 GMT -5
Go on to your state's Bar web page, check the membership directory - most of them should have their e-mail addresses. You can also check the court's websites. That is where I found several of mine.
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Post by pm on Mar 19, 2009 20:50:15 GMT -5
I am filling out all the required paperwork but I do not know the e-mail addresses of the judges and some of my references. Is anybody else in the same boat ? Does anyone think this is absolutely required ? Thank you. 80% of my references do not have email addresses they will share. I'm not worried about it. Most references are contacted by phone anyway. |
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Post by morgullord on Mar 19, 2009 21:31:19 GMT -5
Give them as much as you in good faith can give them. All of my references were contacted via telephone last year.
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Post by wallace on Mar 20, 2009 6:29:54 GMT -5
I am filling out all the required paperwork but I do not know the e-mail addresses of the judges and some of my references. Is anybody else in the same boat ? Does anyone think this is absolutely required ?Thank you. Call them and find out. Seriously, if you don't know your references well enough to blow in a phone call to them, you might want to rethink including them on your list. And, as a matter of practicality, you want to give them the heads up that they might get a call, and you should ask them if they'd have a problem with that. While you're at it, you can get all their contact info. You'll probably get a good vibe as to whether they're willing to give you a good recommendation during this conversation. I'm probably stating the obvious, but that tends to be my forte anyway. |
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Post by grandecanne on Mar 20, 2009 9:01:12 GMT -5
I was called as a reference for 3 applicants last year. I never received contact via e-mail.
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Post by lawdog98 on Mar 20, 2009 10:53:03 GMT -5
FYI-for what its worth.
Last year all my references were contacted by phone and I was told by one of mine, who was out of her office at the time the call came to her, that when she returned the call, the contractor told her they had the information needed and would not need to talk with her. So they ask for multiple references, at least in part, so as to not waste their time as well as to verify what you said, so be as certain as you can be about the reports all your listed references will give to you.
This information was posted in my private capacity by the way. It might be wrong, probably is wrong, and worth what you paid for it.
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Post by gjf323 on Mar 21, 2009 13:10:59 GMT -5
I got to play both sides of the fence on this one as well. I was a reference for several people last year (5). I did four phone interviews, all from my office contact phone # (personal cell was also given because that's the home phone I use), and did not receive any e-mail contacts. I too had one reference where I took too long to respond to the Yale Associates call and they said they had all the information they needed.
I have one reference who is a retired ALJ, and he simply doesn't have an e-mail address. So I put "none" because there is none. If it is too hard to get an e-mail, I don't see how they could separate out the references where you could have obtained the e-mail and didn't vs. those that legitimately don't have one or won't give it out.
Having said that, I also agree that if you aren't willing to extend the courtesy of contacting a reference, expect bad things to happen. Are you feeling lucky?
I'm even sending a courtesy heads-up e-mail to "raters" of two remote jobs after licensure - in one case, a temp services job and I know the person couldn't say she remembers much about what I did for two weeks in 1997. If she can, she's the Antichrist and I'm preparing for Armageddon.
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Post by northwest on Mar 22, 2009 13:17:54 GMT -5
I'll be contacting the supervisors I worked for back in the day, and tell them they might possibly get a call. I'll remind them of the months/years I worked there, what I did, etc.   |
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Post by puravida on Mar 22, 2009 13:46:12 GMT -5
It starts out as such a headache, for those of us who graduated decades ago, contacting people I haven't spoken to in 30 years, feeling reluctant to call, unsure of the reception. But what a great opportunity it has been to reconnect and get all the news about folks from way back when. I had only very positive results. So no matter what the outcome of this round of hiring, I thank SSA for forcing me to make these calls.
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Post by oldjag on Mar 22, 2009 14:03:51 GMT -5
I wouldn't be too concerned about e-maila addresses. I have been contacted several times about various people and never by e-mail.  Good luck to you all--I hope you get your first choice ;D |
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Post by Legal Beagle on Mar 22, 2009 17:18:50 GMT -5
It starts out as such a headache, for those of us who graduated decades ago, contacting people I haven't spoken to in 30 years, feeling reluctant to call, unsure of the reception. My problem is that my "supervisors" were my former law partners who have all died. Hard to contact them. |
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Post by Interested on Mar 22, 2009 18:02:29 GMT -5
Yeah, LB, I've got the same problem. It'll have to be a long-distance call.
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