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Post by cafeta on May 8, 2013 19:31:35 GMT -5
Aljseeker, Patiently, et al- As I recall, the instructions tell you how many questions there are, and you can view that page without starting the 75 minute clock, so I don't think it would be an issue to reveal that number. However, I honestly forgot, so I can't be the one to help. I will reveal the deep dark secret that the first part of the exam was, in a word, absurd. Yes! Yes it was! Hey? Where's Perry?
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Post by mamaru on May 8, 2013 21:36:27 GMT -5
mamaru - I had the same experience. Maybe it just routed us to the affirmation page with like 2 minutes remaining to affirm. Thanks for posting. I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one - and I was just at two minutes out also.
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Post by 17 on May 8, 2013 22:21:07 GMT -5
Done with SJT, essay and experience section. No tech problems. Guardedly optimistic re progressing -- decades of litigation, incl judicial, experience. But heck, the gommint works in mysterious ways. We'll see what the future brings. And be happy with it, either way.
Meanwhile, a huge and sincere thank you to the experienced members of this (ahem - rather angst-ridden) proboard.
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Post by ryder on May 9, 2013 8:20:23 GMT -5
No tech problems here. Guess we are posting that for some type of accounting? Thankful for avoiding all the named issues so far.
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Post by jenm on May 9, 2013 13:27:35 GMT -5
Finished all 3 parts yesterday. I found the first and second parts were fairly easy. Hated the third part, though. I wasn't really sure what to write, since I thought this had all been explained before in the original application... I received an email - almost immediately - confirming that everything had been submitted. I've had no tech problems so far! I guess all I can now do is wait....
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Post by sportsfan on May 9, 2013 14:07:45 GMT -5
I too finished all 3 sections of the online component. I did have technical problems. Emailed the help desk about my problems while I was taking the exam and I got an immediate response within 10 minutes regarding my technical issue but it still only left me with about 12 minutes to complete the essay portion - hopefully I provided enough and it will not lower my score too drastically. Anyway, glad to be done. Good luck to everyone!
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Post by floridagirl on May 9, 2013 14:30:25 GMT -5
I was able to complete the situational judgment test, essay, and experience assessment on Saturday with no technical problems at all. I thought the sutuational judgment test was very challenging, and would have been really hard for thsoe who had never been inside a courtroom or had never done any litigating.
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Post by cafeta on May 9, 2013 14:53:27 GMT -5
I was able to complete the situational judgment test, essay, and experience assessment on Saturday with no technical problems at all. I thought the sutuational judgment test was very challenging, and would have been really hard for thsoe who had never been inside a courtroom or had never done any litigating. I agree floridagirl. I have little courtroom/litigation experience with live hearings, most my experience is administrative and as an appellate attorney at the district court and circuit court level. I feel pretty good about most of my answers/choices on the SJT, but there were a few that to me seemed sufficiently nuanced that I could tell I just didn't have the knowledge/experience base to be certain. Oh, well. But I loved the 3rd test!
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Post by meganj38 on May 10, 2013 10:58:39 GMT -5
So is it the general consensus that with little litigation you may as well forget being considered?
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Post by salvo on May 10, 2013 11:11:55 GMT -5
I wouldn't say that. My problem with the SJT was that there were too many correct answers. I'm a state ALJ, and have had experience with all the situations described, and frankly, with a lot of those questions, they were missing the "all of the above" option. Picking out which answer was the "most correct" or the "least correct" seemed to be a crapshoot at best some of the time. Thus, I can't say that there is a tremendous advantage to having litigation experience or courtroom experience. I honestly think they were testing demeanor/courtroom philosophy than anything.
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Post by shadowyfigure on May 10, 2013 11:24:42 GMT -5
So is it the general consensus that with little litigation you may as well forget being considered? If you want to be an ALJ for an agency other than SSA, litigation experience would be beneficial. For SSA, litigation really matters very little since the process bears so little relation to litigation -- hearings are non-adversarial, there are essentially no rules of evidence, the ALJ (and staff) are required to obtain all known records, the ALJ is required to identify any beneficial evidence or factors for the claimant even if the representative overlooks it (not that this is a bad thing, just different from a courtroom setting where the attorneys for both sides are often bound by the arguments they make), etc. Since the rules were changed to allow administrative law experience to count, SSA insiders have become popular hires because they already know the rules, regulations, and how the process works. Outsiders (with no prior experience as claimant reps) hired as ALJs are often quite surprised at how SSA operates.
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Post by usnrcwo on May 10, 2013 11:42:22 GMT -5
Well.
Got it done.
Awaiting.
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Post by marten77 on May 10, 2013 13:22:42 GMT -5
Pherb, I know what we're gonna do today...
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Post by joatmon on May 10, 2013 13:32:35 GMT -5
When they post scores, do they state what you scored on each part? Will we be able to see how we scored in comparison to others or just get a thumbs up or down? Also, please tell me they are not posted for the world to see.
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Post by 71stretch on May 10, 2013 13:45:52 GMT -5
When they post scores, do they state what you scored on each part? Will we be able to see how we scored in comparison to others or just get a thumbs up or down? Also, please tell me they are not posted for the world to see. No, they are not posted for the world to see. No, you will not see what you scored on each part. You will get one number representing your total score across the whole process through the SI. Done with Phase 2.
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Post by cafeta on May 10, 2013 13:50:14 GMT -5
Pherb, I know what we're gonna do today... Excellent!! Thanks marten77, I wondered if anyone would catch that! I couldn't resist after green said "Yes! Yes it is!"
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Post by gunner on May 10, 2013 23:06:09 GMT -5
Pherb, I know what we're gonna do today... Excellent!! Thanks marten77, I wondered if anyone would catch that! I couldn't resist after green said "Yes! Yes it is!" Aren't you a little young to be taking the ALJ exam?
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Post by callmeyahonor on May 10, 2013 23:36:58 GMT -5
I did everything entirely too quickly based on everyone else. Teeth chattering
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Post by cafeta on May 11, 2013 1:22:55 GMT -5
Excellent!! Thanks marten77, I wondered if anyone would catch that! I couldn't resist after green said "Yes! Yes it is!" Aren't you a little young to be taking the ALJ exam? No, no I am not (well, maybe at heart). I have a 7 and 9 year old and love to watch P&F with them. Great stuff. I am learning how to take over the tri-state area! Curse you Perry the platypus!!
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Post by cafeta on May 11, 2013 1:27:23 GMT -5
Aren't you a little young to be taking the ALJ exam? No, no I am not (well, maybe at heart). I have a 7 and 9 year old and love to watch P&F with them. Great stuff. I am learning how to take over the tri-state area! Curse you Perry the platypus!! Oh wait, I think I missed your pun (Aren't you a little young to (fill in the fantastical project being executed)? If so, kudos to you gunner!! So, whatcha doin?
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