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Post by agilitymom on Jun 6, 2014 5:22:54 GMT -5
nothing now but to wait and as of tomorrow morn i will spend the first week of that wait with my toes in the sand and a drink in my hand. Nice! I'm planning on reflecting obsessively until something else can silence all those thoughts about the things I should have said but didn't and the actual words that came out of my mouth. I know what you mean Miz! But I'm with Funky on this one. . The process has been so long and I'm so relieved that my part is done, the relief is far out weighing any second thoughts about questions asked and answers given! ...and since I didn't throw up on anyone, I'm counting it a win!
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Post by Missundaztood on Jun 6, 2014 9:14:44 GMT -5
Agreed, western and AM. I am a worrier. It's not going to change now without a lobotomy or some serious, intensive therapy. But it's gotten me this far, so I just roll with it. Besides, it just means I'll do better if I don't get picked this round and have to go in for another interview in another decade or so! LOL! But I think I recall seeing that anotherfed was offering drinks?
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Post by gary on Jun 6, 2014 10:14:59 GMT -5
Agreed, western and AM. I am a worrier. It's not going to change now without a lobotomy or some serious, intensive therapy. But it's gotten me this far, so I just roll with it. Besides, it just means I'll do better if I don't get picked this round and have to go in for another interview in another decade or so! LOL! But I think I recall seeing that anotherfed was offering drinks? I'd hold off on that lobotomy if I were you. For hiring purposes, ODAR might view it negatively.
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Post by westernalj on Jun 6, 2014 13:26:37 GMT -5
Bob's email said the first group would report in late August. I interpret this to mean August 25 because that's the beginning of a pay period. Anyone think otherwise?
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 6, 2014 13:41:34 GMT -5
i think that lines up perfectly with the intel we have. Peterprinciple reported the training office had new ALJ training class 1 on its calendar for 9/15 thru 10/10.
Jerseymom told us that new Aljs would be required to spend 3 weeks in their new office prior to training in FC instead of the 2 weeks that has been done in the past.
8/25 is exactly 3 weeks before the start of that first class.
Reports indicate offers usually go out 3 to 4 weeks before report date....so the weeks of July 28 and Aug 4 look like the sweetspot.
off on vacation, see you folks next week.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 6, 2014 13:58:33 GMT -5
Yeah - looks like 8/25 (technically 8/24 - pay period starts on a Sunday), and, my best guess "Group 2" would report exactly 4 weeks (2 pay periods) later - 9/22 (technically 9/21) - that would fit our earlier intel on the training dates. Both report dates would also hit this FY.
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Post by anotherfed on Jun 6, 2014 14:49:49 GMT -5
Agreed, western and AM. I am a worrier. It's not going to change now without a lobotomy or some serious, intensive therapy. But it's gotten me this far, so I just roll with it. Besides, it just means I'll do better if I don't get picked this round and have to go in for another interview in another decade or so! LOL! But I think I recall seeing that anotherfed was offering drinks? You didn't throw up on anyone, but the offer is still good if you're stuck in DC tonight!
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Post by anotherfed on Jun 6, 2014 15:00:50 GMT -5
By the way, I'm happy to report that I have received no PMs this week, so evidently there were no obvious incidents of vomiting or crash'n'burns. I will be keeping my fingers crossed for all our candidates. In the meantime, everyone enjoy some much-needed relaxation. Funky, if you're at the beach, have a froufrou frozen drink with an umbrella in it for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 15:09:16 GMT -5
i think that lines up perfectly with the intel we have. Peterprinciple reported the training office had new ALJ training class 1 on its calendar for 9/15 thru 10/10. Jerseymom told us that new Aljs would be required to spend 3 weeks in their new office prior to training in FC instead of the 2 weeks that has been done in the past. 8/25 is exactly 3 weeks before the start of that first class. Reports indicate offers usually go out 3 to 4 weeks before report date....so the weeks of July 28 and Aug 4 look like the sweetspot. off on vacation, see you folks next week. Have a great vacation! Just a random question: it appears ODAR interviews will be concluded next week. It seems ODAR has concluded all the reference checks and other background investigation that they are going to do before people are appointed. IF it is true that offers will not be extended until the end of July, what will ODAR be doing for the next 6 or 7 weeks?
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 6, 2014 16:17:50 GMT -5
thanks for the good vibes. Today is the "get there" day but rest assured that by tomorrow i will be toasting the board frequently and with vigor. steve, my guess on offers being extended the last week of July and/or the first week of August results entirely from past practices and counting backwards from the reported training start date. but, from what ive been told, 6 to 7 weeks between end of interviews and offers isnt odd. They needed time, i presume, to work the list. Also keep in mind that those on the selection team are not full time alj hiring folks. They meet when they can and it takes time to get a finished product. the one thing no one can contest though is this time things are different and historical norms may not be applicable. For instance, i heard it from a friend who heard it from a friend who heard it from another ( ) that we shouldnt expect a mass of offers to come out over one or two days as they have in the past. The theory being that this new cert procedure makes someone who declines an offer muy muy influential. Whereas before, if Candi Date was offered East Crapland and turns it down, no big deal. They just go to number 91 on their internal list and make the offer to that person if EC was on their gal. Under the new process, Candi's declination means they can only go to the next one on that particular cert. So, presumably they will need to trickle out the offers and get an acceptance for the first before they move to the second. We may be in for several days or weeks of people reporting offers instead of the one or two days of mass activity seen in the past. Or maybe not. Think I will go ahead and have one of those froufrou drinks AF recommended as a prearrival mood setter...
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Post by Ace Midnight on Jun 6, 2014 16:46:05 GMT -5
So, presumably they will need to trickle out the offers and get an acceptance for the firsg before they move to the second. We may be in for several days or weeks of people reporting offers instead of the o.e or two days of mass activity seen in the past. Or maybe not. No kidding - I actually laughed out loud.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 17:08:54 GMT -5
No kidding - I actually laughed out loud. I predict much weeping and gnashing of teeth if this method is pursued. If ODAR hires before OMHA, there literally may not be any candidates left for OMHA to hire. As some have noted this week, it looks as if OMHA may hold yet another round of interviews before getting to a decision point. At this point, I think ODAR has to wait for OMHA to hire the 7 or 10 ALJs OMHA intends to select this FY before ODAR can put together a list of prospective hires. There will be a lot of weeping and gnashing of teeth indeed.
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Post by futuressaalj on Jun 6, 2014 18:09:15 GMT -5
Steve, do you know if there is a memorandum of agreement between OMHA and SSA that gives OMHA first dibs? Or do they have automatic first dibs because they pulled their cert first?
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Post by Missundaztood on Jun 6, 2014 18:53:20 GMT -5
i think that lines up perfectly with the intel we have. Peterprinciple reported the training office had new ALJ training class 1 on its calendar for 9/15 thru 10/10. Jerseymom told us that new Aljs would be required to spend 3 weeks in their new office prior to training in FC instead of the 2 weeks that has been done in the past. 8/25 is exactly 3 weeks before the start of that first class. Reports indicate offers usually go out 3 to 4 weeks before report date....so the weeks of July 28 and Aug 4 look like the sweetspot. off on vacation, see you folks next week. Have a great vacation! Just a random question: it appears ODAR interviews will be concluded next week. It seems ODAR has concluded all the reference checks and other background investigation that they are going to do before people are appointed. IF it is true that offers will not be extended until the end of July, what will ODAR be doing for the next 6 or 7 weeks? My interviewer told me that yes, interviews are scheduled to wrap up next week but that could be extended if any interviews have to be rescheduled. I hope they don't reschedule for the folks who can't find their way in to the interview. I figure that must be a threshold test and failure to find your way inside results in "failing to meet the minimum score" on the agency interview.
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Post by gary on Jun 6, 2014 19:00:13 GMT -5
Have a great vacation! Just a random question: it appears ODAR interviews will be concluded next week. It seems ODAR has concluded all the reference checks and other background investigation that they are going to do before people are appointed. IF it is true that offers will not be extended until the end of July, what will ODAR be doing for the next 6 or 7 weeks? My interviewer told me that yes, interviews are scheduled to wrap up next week but that could be extended if any interviews have to be rescheduled. I hope they don't reschedule for the folks who can't find their way in to the interview. I figure that must be a threshold test and failure to find your way inside results in "failing to meet the minimum score" on the agency interview. I take it you found your way in to the interview and are looking for a way to cut down on the competition. I like your style!
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Post by Missundaztood on Jun 6, 2014 19:21:52 GMT -5
My interviewer told me that yes, interviews are scheduled to wrap up next week but that could be extended if any interviews have to be rescheduled. I hope they don't reschedule for the folks who can't find their way in to the interview. I figure that must be a threshold test and failure to find your way inside results in "failing to meet the minimum score" on the agency interview. I take it you found your way in to the interview and are looking for a way to cut down on the competition. I like your style! With these numbers, even eliminating one or two applicants helps my odds a bunch! I'd really like the OMHA offers to go out first and knock out a whole bunch of people in front of me...
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Post by Missundaztood on Jun 6, 2014 19:23:18 GMT -5
By the way, I'm happy to report that I have received no PMs this week, so evidently there were no obvious incidents of vomiting or crash'n'burns. There is always next week! Fingers crossed!
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Post by JudgeRatty on Jun 6, 2014 19:27:13 GMT -5
I take it you found your way in to the interview and are looking for a way to cut down on the competition. I like your style! With these numbers, even eliminating one or two applicants helps my odds a bunch! I'd really like the OMHA offers to go out first and knock out a whole bunch of people in front of me... Amen! This is my hope. Good for applicants all the way around for any agency to pull from the potential SSA pool to leave more room for those of us who specifically want SSA!
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Post by Missundaztood on Jun 6, 2014 19:57:30 GMT -5
By the way, I'm happy to report that I have received no PMs this week, so evidently there were no obvious incidents of vomiting or crash'n'burns. There is always next week! Fingers crossed! To be clear, if anyone was going to crash and burn, it would've been me, so I feel pretty safe joking about next week's interviews.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2014 20:33:30 GMT -5
Steve, do you know if there is a memorandum of agreement between OMHA and SSA that gives OMHA first dibs? Or do they have automatic first dibs because they pulled their cert first? The polling on this board shows that no one believes OMHA to be a position preferable to ODAR -- in large part because OMHA isn't going to pay relocation expenses. I find it hard to believe that very many people would decline an earlier offer from ODAR in order to see if they get a later offer from OMHA. It's for that reason I believe OMHA will have to hire first.
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