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Post by apppending on Apr 27, 2009 11:31:48 GMT -5
I was told point blank during my interview that offers would not be made until the first week of June. It appeared the person was in the loop, for what it is worth....
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Post by benchsitter on Apr 27, 2009 11:53:37 GMT -5
I was told the same thing by an HOCALJ who was one of my interviewers.
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Post by superdude on Apr 27, 2009 12:10:25 GMT -5
That's only 50,400 hours away. Not that I'm counting (or sweating).
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Post by apppending on Apr 27, 2009 12:12:28 GMT -5
Superdude, never admit that stuff!!! ;D
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Post by privateatty on Apr 27, 2009 12:39:23 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe we have a variance of 3 weeks as to what was told interviewees.
But then, I'm not an insider and don't appreciate the vagaries of ODAR.
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Post by superdude on Apr 27, 2009 13:03:30 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe we have a variance of 3 weeks as to what was told interviewees. But then, I'm not an insider and don't appreciate the vagaries of ODAR. I am an insider and don't appreciate the vagaries of ODAR. |
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Post by ssaer on Apr 27, 2009 13:11:31 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that offers would be made in a manner that affords the first group less than three weeks to report to their new duty stations on June 22 (two weeks before the July 6 training begins). In my interview, I was told that, based on the past precedents, offers would likely be made 6 weeks in advance, i.e., beginning on or about May 11.
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Post by Legal Beagle on Apr 27, 2009 13:23:34 GMT -5
Maybe a pre-determined group will get the first offers May 11, and after those are accepted / rejected, the next group will go out the first week of June for the second class. I was just told that the wait would "not be much longer" - which to me means today, but to the government, it may mean next year.
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Post by Propmaster on Apr 27, 2009 13:53:57 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that offers would be made in a manner that affords the first group less than three weeks to report to their new duty stations on June 22 (two weeks before the July 6 training begins). In my interview, I was told that, based on the past precedents, offers would likely be made 6 weeks in advance, i.e., beginning on or about May 11. I remember hearing many stories before the first "new" round of hiring about the very short notice for moving/reporting to duty. I think most people aware of the history of ALJ hiring were surprised at the long lead-time afforded the 2008 classes. I don't see any reason that would necessarily continue to be true, however (despite it making people happier). I think ODAR could reasonably assume that folks could legally leave any existing job on two weeks notice. Closing a law practice and/or moving, of course, is virtually unfeasible if you first start two weeks out. But, again, those are not the factors with which SSA will determine its time schedule. |
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Post by float on Apr 27, 2009 15:28:50 GMT -5
For the record and having slowed things down here just in case I get an offer, I would trip all over myself closing what is left of my practice for the chance to be in the first class.
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Post by Legal Beagle on Apr 27, 2009 16:14:22 GMT -5
For the record and having slowed things down here just in case I get an offer, I would trip all over myself closing what is left of my practice for the chance to be in the first class. Make that a ditto here! I am going ahead and starting to shread files from long ago, figuing they will need to go sometime anyway, plus cleaning up and throwing stuff out of my house, which has been on my New Year's Resolutions since I moved in. |
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Post by nothingventured on Apr 27, 2009 19:07:36 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that offers would be made in a manner that affords the first group less than three weeks to report to their new duty stations on June 22 (two weeks before the July 6 training begins). In my interview, I was told that, based on the past precedents, offers would likely be made 6 weeks in advance, i.e., beginning on or about May 11. Believe it. Some of the folks in the last class hired last summer got 2 weeks notice to report to training. They did not get the opportunity to go to their hearing offices first. |
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Post by northwest on Apr 27, 2009 19:40:57 GMT -5
Some of the folks in the last class hired last summer got 2 weeks notice to report to training. They did not get the opportunity to go to their hearing offices first. Interesting. So there was not a single "offer date", but some folks found out up to 4 weeks after the first batch? So maybe the slots that were declined got backfilled? I'd be interested in knowing more about how this worked last year, as my impression had been that all the offers went out the same date. This would be heartening for those of us who might not get offers the same day we read all the posts on this board, "I just got my offer for >>>>!" Did the late offers apply only to the second smaller April group? |
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Post by EagleJAG on Apr 27, 2009 20:08:39 GMT -5
That's only 50,400 hours away. Not that I'm counting (or sweating). 50,400 hours? Superdude, it's already too long! Please don't make it longer than it really is.  |
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Post by aljsouth on Apr 27, 2009 20:17:00 GMT -5
Some of the folks in the last class hired last summer got 2 weeks notice to report to training. They did not get the opportunity to go to their hearing offices first. Interesting. So there was not a single "offer date", but some folks found out up to 4 weeks after the first batch? So maybe the slots that were declined got backfilled? I'd be interested in knowing more about how this worked last year, as my impression had been that all the offers went out the same date. This would be heartening for those of us who might not get offers the same day we read all the posts on this board, "I just got my offer for >>>>!" Did the late offers apply only to the second smaller April group? My memory is that at first there was a large hire all at once in the spring, with the hires being assigned to different New Alj training groups. These ALJ's were allowed to go to their new hearing offices for two weeks. Then later, in August [?] a new group was hired. It was the latter, and smaller group, that did not get to go to their hearing offices first for two weeks. I really hope ODAR will stick with the 2 week first program. Its ALJ trainers have pushed for this for years. This later hire did fill some open slots, i.e. backfilled slots not taken in the first hire. I don't see backfilling going on in the hire for late May/early June of this year. There are too many people having to call so many people with offers all at once. Perhaps slots not filled then will be addressed in the proposed September hire. |
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Post by barkley on Apr 28, 2009 8:19:05 GMT -5
[my impression had been that all the offers went out the same date. This would be heartening for those of us who might not get offers the same day we read all the posts on this board, "I just got my offer for >>>>!" Did the late offers apply only to the second smaller April group? I posted this elsewhere, but a friend advised me that the offers went out in batches last year, much like the cert notices did this year. So don't freak out if you don't immediately hear. |
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Post by valkyrie on Apr 28, 2009 9:06:51 GMT -5
The offers went out within 24 hours. Things seemed to drag out longer because not everybody who recieved an offer immediately posted to the board, as required by Higher Power, law, code, and human decency. Ahhhhh! Flashbacks! Happy place! Happy place!
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Post by privateatty on Apr 28, 2009 13:11:00 GMT -5
There was alot of angst, pain and just nervous system carnage last year on the part of the "non-selectees".
As a result, it appeared that some chosen folks did not feel entirely comfortable in posting "I got an offer". However, once their posting buddies did, that was another matter.
I could not bear to look at the Board for 3 or 4 months.
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Post by aaa on Apr 28, 2009 16:20:28 GMT -5
My offer came by email on 2/27/08; my effective date was 4/14/08, the first class.
Others I knew also got offers either date or the next day and were in the same or subsequent classes.
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Post by alj2009 on Apr 29, 2009 8:04:04 GMT -5
I'm wondering when, and how, and even if, the rejections come. Or do we just have to infer it from the absence of an offer? (I am sure this question applies only to me; everyone else will be getting a great offer!)
And will it give any info at all about our continuing eligibility?
Maybe I will change my monniker to "GL" for Geographically Limited.
Thanks all.
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