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Post by rmvlpro on Jun 29, 2016 15:57:53 GMT -5
I applied for Omaha (yes I did), Seattle, Honolulu, Portland, Tacoma, Charlotte, and Denver. The waiting is so difficult. I try to put it out of my mind. I have 12 years full time immigration law experience. Yes, the waiting is the worst part. Do you work in removal court or is your practice more on the business side? The IJs I work with have been a big help in keeping me apprised of all the rumors. I don't know much about any of the cities you posted with respect to how many IJs they may or may not need. However, I do know Honolulu lost one of their IJs to an ACIJ position and will probably hire one. In fact an individual who was interviewing at the same time I was applied only for Honolulu. I will let you know if I hear anything on those spots! |
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Post by tigger on Jun 29, 2016 16:16:03 GMT -5
That would be great thanks. I do not do much business immigration - some. I have 12 years removal experience but I honestly have been getting PD so often it seems like I am hardly in court. I also do not live in a city with a sitting court so I do a lot of telephonic. Thank you for all the info. It is just so nice to commiserate. |
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Post by rmvlpro on Jun 29, 2016 16:18:52 GMT -5
That would be great thanks. I do not do much business immigration - some. I have 12 years removal experience but I honestly have been getting PD so often it seems like I am hardly in court. I also do not live in a city with a sitting court so I do a lot of telephonic. Thank you for all the info. It is just so nice to commiserate. PD? you must be on the left coast? : ) If you have that much removal experience I'd say you have a good shot at at least one of those cities! Given the dearth of AILA people applying you would be one of the few qualified to balance all the ICE hires. |
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Post by tigger on Jun 29, 2016 16:31:23 GMT -5
I am in the middle. How 'bout you?
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Post by rmvlpro on Jun 29, 2016 16:39:48 GMT -5
I am in the middle. How 'bout you? |
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Post by rmvlpro on Jun 29, 2016 16:40:34 GMT -5
I am in the middle. How 'bout you? 5th circuit |
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Post by breen68 on Jun 29, 2016 18:47:31 GMT -5
Hello Everyone, I applied only in the Nov 2015 group, not the 2014. I had my initial interview in May of 2016. I have not heard anything since that time, but I have a lot of information about the process. I.E. the announced for every city that has an immigration court and received over 8k applications. For this round, they are interviewing several hundred people for positions all over. I applied in Texas, California, Colorado and Florida. I will update the board when and if I ever hear more or receive another interview. Breen, have you scheduled your second interview yet? Yes, Jafo's intel is spot on regarding the Nov. 2015 applicants. I had my first interview in April. There are 2nd interviews scheduled in July. I've applied to 6 locations mainly in the Southeast and Midwest. |
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Post by rmvlpro on Jun 29, 2016 19:02:33 GMT -5
Hello Everyone, I applied only in the Nov 2015 group, not the 2014. I had my initial interview in May of 2016. I have not heard anything since that time, but I have a lot of information about the process. I.E. the announced for every city that has an immigration court and received over 8k applications. For this round, they are interviewing several hundred people for positions all over. I applied in Texas, California, Colorado and Florida. I will update the board when and if I ever hear more or receive another interview. Breen, have you scheduled your second interview yet? Yes, Jafo's intel is spot on regarding the Nov. 2015 applicants. I had my first interview in April. There are 2nd interviews scheduled in July. I've applied to 6 locations mainly in the Southeast and Midwest. [ Congrats on the 2nd! One of the IJs I work with said if you get a 2nd it's yours to lose. Did they tell you what region/ city you would be considered for or do you have to shell out another grand for a positions that may or may not exist? |
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Post by breen68 on Jun 29, 2016 19:35:21 GMT -5
Yes, Jafo's intel is spot on regarding the Nov. 2015 applicants. I had my first interview in April. There are 2nd interviews scheduled in July. I've applied to 6 locations mainly in the Southeast and Midwest. [ Congrats on the 2nd! One of the IJs I work with said if you get a 2nd it's yours to lose. Did they tell you what region/ city you would be considered for or do you have to shell out another grand for a positions that may or may not exist? Thank you! DOJ did not specify a specific region or city ahead of the interview. After considering the advice of many on this board, I did not apply to any locale where I was not prepared to say "yes" immediately. |
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Post by aljwatch on Jun 29, 2016 20:07:27 GMT -5
Even during the second interview, they will not tell you what city in particular you are being considered for (if you have applied to multiple cities). I suspect they want to keep their options open. In hindsight, they did give me a hint by mentioning one of my cities during the interview, but I guess I was a little dense and didn't see that hint for what it was. For those of you who don't get called for a second interview in July, don't worry. I had a first interview in Feb 2015 and did not get a second interview until after various rounds of second interviews about 7 months later. I'm pretty sure they schedule the second interview based on the hiring-priority of the city they have decided they are likely to hire you for.
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Post by wacokid on Jun 29, 2016 21:44:53 GMT -5
14 out of 15 strongly suggests that if one isn't an ICE attorney, the odds are almost nil. That looks a whole lot more "insider" heavy than ALJ appears to be. Two first interviews and nothing since for this outsider.
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Post by wb on Jun 30, 2016 18:29:07 GMT -5
It's an unhealthy and unbalanced system if they hire mostly ICE attys, who later undoubtedly become chief IJs who, in turn, hire their friends/ICE attys. IJs dont need to recuse themselves from presiding before ICE atty friends, whom they still hang out with. Respondents' attys have an increasingly uphill battle in getting fair treatment sometimes. Nepotism, like inbreeding, is never good in the long run. I hope they balance the bench with attys in private practice who have been fighting the good fight on their own merits without the benefit of a Govt badge.
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Post by batman1463 on Jul 1, 2016 9:26:59 GMT -5
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Post by tigger on Jul 1, 2016 10:03:03 GMT -5
I know at the AILA conference EOIR was given some push back on this disparity. Sounds like there are a few of us from the outside. I know I felt alone in this process since I did not have anyone I knew who had been through this before. This forum was a peek I was very grateful for. I think selecting more IJ's from purely private practice should serve to improve the dialogue that drives policy decisions directed from EOIR itself to those on the bench. I believe balance is essential and does not mean the IJ will be "rouge" or fail to toe the line. An offer of perspective given respectfully and through proper channels benefits everyone who value independent judgment. I'll cross my fingers for you wacokid.
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Post by larry27 on Jul 5, 2016 20:52:46 GMT -5
yes, pretty discouraging. I applied in the last 2 rounds with over 20 years litigation experience in the not for profit sphere of the immigration world and had one interview- not this year. When one sees the recent IJ hires, every last one of them was with ICE or DHS.
Obviously, we on the "other side" are just as (or more so sometimes) ethical and true to our responsibilities as officers of the court. I was asked in the interview, if I could as an immigration practioner, fairly apply the law! Can you imagine? Do they think we sit around our offices and help immigrants skirt the law? I was taken aback.
Now I'm on the bench at the SSA. From what I see our Judges don't have the same biases. Each Judge pretty much comes from a different background. The deck is not stacked against those who appear before us.
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Post by wb on Jul 10, 2016 22:52:42 GMT -5
One recent IJ was hired from the non-profit sector. Still, a tiny percentage. Sometimes it seems, overall, DAs/prosecutors treat criminal defendants and their attorneys better than DHS/ICE attorneys treat respondents and their attorneys.
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Post by jafo on Jul 10, 2016 23:00:05 GMT -5
One recent IJ was hired from the non-profit sector. Still, a tiny percentage. Sometimes it seems, overall, DAs/prosecutors treat criminal defendants and their attorneys better than DHS/ICE attorneys treat respondents and their attorneys. And this opinion is based on what facts? |
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Post by Pixie on Jul 11, 2016 7:14:37 GMT -5
When quoting a poster, it isn't necessary to make two posts. Merely hit the quote button, put the cursor below the quoted text and type your reply. Also, when carrying on a conversation with another member, that is better accomplished by private messages. Pixie. |
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Post by wb on Jul 14, 2016 7:50:41 GMT -5
The May 6 2013 list of IJ hires had a balanced mix (california court). 2 ICE attys, 1 policy, 1 non-profit, 1 private. The one from private is supposedly tough on respondents. Good mix.
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Post by robespierre on Jul 14, 2016 9:20:23 GMT -5
Other than those who've reported already, has anybody out there gotten a second interview off the Nov. 2015 job announcement?
I haven't. Bit disappointed. But I'm hoping it's simply because they're not hiring right now in my handful of cities.
Keeping hope alive.
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