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Post by christina on Jun 20, 2016 13:42:52 GMT -5
Wow a direct hire in San Juan? Gives me hope for a tropical paradise after I pass the test if you can hold hearings in Spanish, agency has been eager to hire in PR.
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Post by kylearan on Jun 20, 2016 14:06:25 GMT -5
Sí sí sí sí! . I'd love to get assigned to a HO in Miami too. Just so when my family comes to visit and they start getting on my nerves too badly I can remind them that Shady Pines is just down the road! Lol!
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Post by ducky on Jun 20, 2016 14:22:17 GMT -5
Congratulations to everyone who got the call last week! And, sorry for the late note (that pesky work thing gets in the way every now and then). See you all in FC in August.
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Post by burwell on Jun 20, 2016 15:04:00 GMT -5
By my math, there are upwards of 150 people hurting right about now, or starting to feel the hurt. And I know we all can say, "Get 'em next cert, Tiger." And there are stories to be heard of Lazarus rising from the grave, some 5-6 certs on. And there are limits of GALs and NORs and time constraints. All valid. All true.
But just as true is the hurt felt now among us who are obviously being passed over. Because time is of the essence. And we were ready to change our lives forever as soon as next Monday. And we were bracing for the journey. But the journey told us we were not welcome.
And regardless of whether or not you choose to rescucitate yourself with hope for future blessings to come, I, for one, want to congratulate you now, in your pain. Here's a cyber hug from a dude as big as a bear. I'm with you there. I know it doesn't feel right. Hell, it isn't. But you took it like a champ.
Congratulations for being an adult. I think being an adult means many things, but especially learning how to suffer in silence. With that, you know you are truly human and grown. And so worthy of great admiration and support.
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Post by wingnut on Jun 20, 2016 15:29:30 GMT -5
Thanks Burwell. I knew I didn't have a great chance this time but the way the hiring happened I remained in play until today. And it's unclear whether it was a pass over or a not reached situation. Still stings and I know I'm not the only one.
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Post by christina on Jun 20, 2016 15:58:17 GMT -5
I think the sting is horrible for all but perhaps the worst for mid to long term insiders.
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Post by vinny17 on Jun 20, 2016 16:20:16 GMT -5
Extremely well put, Burwell, and extremely appreciated. I'm right there with you guys. I thought I had an excellent chance this time around with a good score and many cities at play, but have slowly concluded its just not going to happen for reasons that will remain unknown.
It's been hard watching the board over the last week and a half or so as the scores continued to dip, cities continued to fill with lower scores, and the phone remained silent. I, for one, have continually questioned myself, my interview, and everything else that could have possibly gone wrong. I'm still grasping at these same straws, and I know I'm not the only one. It hurts--badly. And now our parting gift is a summertime wait to find out whether we've simply drawn bad cards this time around or if they've decided to three-strike us and not look at us any further.
I've got no advice for anyone else. I'm still trying to get my own head around it. But I too wanted to put my story out there in the hopes that it somehow helps others. If nothing else, it's good to know that we're not alone. Let's keep our heads up and try to have some fun this summer.
And last, but not least, my sincere congrats to all who've gotten the call. We'll be hoping to join you in the fall.
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Post by catspaw on Jun 20, 2016 16:29:07 GMT -5
Extremely well put, Burwell, and extremely appreciated. I'm right there with you guys. I thought I had an excellent chance this time around with a good score and many cities at play, but have slowly concluded its just not going to happen for reasons that will remain unknown. It's been hard watching the board over the last week and a half or so as the scores continued to dip, cities continued to fill with lower scores, and the phone remained silent. I, for one, have continually questioned myself, my interview, and everything else that could have possibly gone wrong. I'm still grasping at these same straws, and I know I'm not the only one. It hurts--badly. And now our parting gift is a summertime wait to find out whether we've simply drawn bad cards this time around or if they've decided to three-strike us and not look at us any further. I've got no advice for anyone else. I'm still trying to get my own head around it. But I too wanted to put my story out there in the hopes that it somehow helps others. If nothing else, it's good to know that we're not alone. Let's keep our heads up and try to have some fun this summer. And last, but not least, my sincere congrats to all who've gotten the call. We'll be hoping to join you in the fall. I could not have stated my sentiments any clearer. Thanks to all of you who are so emotionally and intellectually astute in this unusual hiring arena. And I join in a hearty congratulations to all those who did receive a call this time around.
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Jun 20, 2016 16:34:44 GMT -5
I thought the comment was made that Bob had NOT finished making calls...? So - I will cross my fingers and toes that at least 2-3 (if not more) more of you "get the call." I actually think all of you should be proud of yourselves. You have persevered through a rigorous and loooooong process. You have made the cut when thousands- literally thousands- did not make the cut.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 20, 2016 17:14:31 GMT -5
Guys it's not the end of the line.
For one, I do believe there are at least a handful more calls to make.
For two, even if you didn't get the call this time you are still in the game and almost guaranteed to be on future certs for ssa. I highly doubt they will officially three strike anyone at this point.
If this is your first cert, please realize many, many outstanding aljs didn't get picked on the first cert they appeared. Maybe ssa decided not to hire in the city you were most competitive in. Maybe that's because they wanted to hire a group of 4 there and other than you they didn't find any they liked so they decided to wait. Maybe the office you were likely to get is now looking at moving and they don't want to fill slots till they see what space they have.
Most likely you were a recommended and you were not in a position where they had to take you to get to a highly recommend. Other recommended were and thus, getting them was the priority. Sooner or later you will be in a position where they need to pick you.
Now, if you have a high score and wide gal and this is your 3rd or greater cert and you see people picked with lower scores...I'd agree the portends don't appear favorable. But, then again, maybe in September they will look at you and see that hiring you for some place makes their goal of getting the highly recommends hired easier and boom, just like that your perseverance is paid off.
Or maybe, just maybe, you are in the dreaded no recc group. Maybe you won't get picked up by ssa. Ever. But guess what...it's just a freaking job. One that today I dislike. You aren't being branded with "loser" across the forehead. You are still an amazingly accomplished attorney. And just maybe if ssa has decided you are not a fit for odar, they are right and you would be absolutely miserable doing this job.
I know it sucks to wait by the phone, to watch others get the call, to feel like you lost. But it's not over for the most of you. The vast majority. The few that it is over for...vent your frustration and feel down for a bit. But then get the hell up and find something better.
Funk
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Post by justlooking on Jun 20, 2016 18:54:15 GMT -5
HO Jersey City, NJ Akron, OH Moreno Valley, CA Newark, NJ Wichita, KS Richmond, VA Pasadena, CA Milwaukee, WI Fresno, CA Dover, DE Toledo, OH Phoenix (North), AZ Norfolk, VA Morgantown, WV Seven Fields, PA Orland Park, IL Memphis, TN Albuquerque, NM Albuquerque, NM Hattiesburg, MS Syracuse, NY Roanoke, VA Charleston, SC Grand Rapids, MI Los Angeles (West), CA Queens, NY Milwaukee, WI Jersey City, NJ Toledo, OH Valparaiso, IN Newark, NJ Fayetteville, NC San Francisco, CA Stockton, CA San Rafael, CA Nashville, TN San Juan, PR Cincinnati, OH Montgomery, AL Charleston, SC San Juan, PR Flint, MI Harrisburg, PA Norfolk, VA Fayetteville, NC Brooklyn, NY Chattanooga, TN San Juan, PR Akron, OH Orland Park, IL Omaha, NE Eugene, OR Oakland, CA Stockton, CA San Juan, PR Valparaiso, IN Columbus, OH Roanoke, VA Ponce, PR Detroit, MI Oakland, CA Buffalo, NY Tallahassee, FL Long Beach, CA Syracuse, NY Ft. Lauderdale, FL Cleveland, IL San Antonio, TX These are the hires reflected by the union's missive. Again, obviously not complete as hiring continues today and I don't know when this list was compiled. FOUR going to San Juan? That has to be some kind of record, no?
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Post by ba on Jun 20, 2016 19:04:24 GMT -5
HO Jersey City, NJ Akron, OH Moreno Valley, CA Newark, NJ Wichita, KS Richmond, VA Pasadena, CA Milwaukee, WI Fresno, CA Dover, DE Toledo, OH Phoenix (North), AZ Norfolk, VA Morgantown, WV Seven Fields, PA Orland Park, IL Memphis, TN Albuquerque, NM Albuquerque, NM Hattiesburg, MS Syracuse, NY Roanoke, VA Charleston, SC Grand Rapids, MI Los Angeles (West), CA Queens, NY Milwaukee, WI Jersey City, NJ Toledo, OH Valparaiso, IN Newark, NJ Fayetteville, NC San Francisco, CA Stockton, CA San Rafael, CA Nashville, TN San Juan, PR Cincinnati, OH Montgomery, AL Charleston, SC San Juan, PR Flint, MI Harrisburg, PA Norfolk, VA Fayetteville, NC Brooklyn, NY Chattanooga, TN San Juan, PR Akron, OH Orland Park, IL Omaha, NE Eugene, OR Oakland, CA Stockton, CA San Juan, PR Valparaiso, IN Columbus, OH Roanoke, VA Ponce, PR Detroit, MI Oakland, CA Buffalo, NY Tallahassee, FL Long Beach, CA Syracuse, NY Ft. Lauderdale, FL Cleveland, IL San Antonio, TX These are the hires reflected by the union's missive. Again, obviously not complete as hiring continues today and I don't know when this list was compiled. FOUR going to San Juan? That has to be some kind of record, no? Si.
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Post by kylearan on Jun 20, 2016 19:05:08 GMT -5
Put me down for Lauderdale (If I pass the test that is lol) Maybe we should all pool our money and buy a case of bottled water for the Judge going to Flint Michigan!
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Post by christina on Jun 20, 2016 20:20:55 GMT -5
Wow a direct hire in San Juan? Gives me hope for a tropical paradise after I pass the test Actually if you are bilingual and included the PR locations in your GAL it can greatly improve your chances of being hired with a lower score than is necessary elsewhere. More than bilingual. Need to be able to fluently conduct hearing in spanish.
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Post by Pixie on Jun 20, 2016 20:37:24 GMT -5
Actually if you are bilingual and included the PR locations in your GAL it can greatly improve your chances of being hired with a lower score than is necessary elsewhere. More than bilingual. Need to be able to fluently conduct hearing in spanish. Did you see my confirmation of Mt. Pleasant? Sorry. It actually saddened me when I saw it wasn't you. Maybe there will be another. Pixie.
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Post by berk727 on Jun 20, 2016 20:50:10 GMT -5
I think the sting is horrible for all but perhaps the worst for mid to long term insiders. It is pretty much awful. That said, I am very happy for everyone who got the call. And especially some of our long-termers who finally got the call! Congratulations everyone!
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Post by christina on Jun 20, 2016 20:53:51 GMT -5
More than bilingual. Need to be able to fluently conduct hearing in spanish. Did you see my confirmation of Mt. Pleasant? Sorry. It actually saddened me when I saw it wasn't you. Maybe there will be another. Pixie. It dId not sadden me!!!
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Post by hapi2balj on Jun 20, 2016 21:40:05 GMT -5
Actually if you are bilingual and included the PR locations in your GAL it can greatly improve your chances of being hired with a lower score than is necessary elsewhere. More than bilingual. Need to be able to fluently conduct hearing in spanish. The last class (Feb) also included a San Juan direct hire.
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Post by BagLady on Jun 20, 2016 22:01:31 GMT -5
Puerto Rico taxes are crazy high...~40% right off the top. And schools are awful, so you'll likely be paying private tuition. Food for thought if you are bilingual. Grow where you are planted; just be sure the soil is fertile.
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Post by happy on Jun 20, 2016 23:12:58 GMT -5
Congratulations, Newbies. Welcome aboard!
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