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Post by JudgeKnot on Aug 24, 2017 8:21:03 GMT -5
I adapted this from a similar thread that was created for the 2016 application by tiberiustribble , thinking it would serve well to have this info in one place for future review/update. I've included the 2016 dates for quick comparison. If there are other important details that should be added, let me know and I'll figure out how to update it. And, as events have passed, remind me and I'll update those as well. Event | 2017 App | 2016 App | Application Period Opens | 8/23/17 | 3/29/16 | Application Period Closes | 8/30/17 (extended to 9/5/17) | 4/8/16 | Invitations to take Online Component | 11/6/17 | 6/8/16 | Online Component Open | 11/27/17-12/8/17 | 6/20/16-7/1/16 | Invitations to DC Testing | 1/30/18 | 8/12/16 | Self-Scheduling Opens for DC Testing | 2/5/18-2/16/18 | 8/15/16 | DC Testing
| 3/5/18-6/20/18 | 9/12/16-3/24/17 | AM Status Changes to Complete or SD | 8/27/18 | 5/25/17 | NORs Released | 9/12/18 | 6/13/17 | Notice to ALJ Candidate (ODAR Cert Notification) |
| 7/11/17 | Scheduling of ODAR Interviews |
| 7/17/17 | Interview Dates |
| 7/31/17-8/15/17 | Medicare Cert |
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| First Offers made (ODAR cert only) |
| 8/31/17-9/15/17 | Second certificate |
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| Approximate applicants |
| 5500 | Approximate DC Testers | 1375 | 2100 | Approximate NOR scores |
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The application deadline was extended in 2017. General consensus is that the extension was due to Hurricane Harvey, although no official reason has been discovered as of this edit on 9/2/17. One offer was reported as of 8/31/17. Others were made 9/1/17, then paused for Labor Day weekend. Resumed 9/5/17. Offers believed to have ended on 9/15/17. 2/5/18 updated to show DC Testing dates. 6/22/18 updated to show DC testing dates were extended from 6/7/18 to 6/20/18 due to weather cancellations and estimated # of DC testers. As of 7/10/18 this timeline has been rendered moot by an Executive Order. See www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-excepting-administrative-law-judges-competitive-service/8/28/18 update to show some applicants received updates of their status on AM to Complete and some to Complete-See Details Tab. 9/13/18 update: some applicants have received scores via email, including the following: "Pursuant to OPM’s transitional authority under the E.O., and in lieu of a notice of results, you are being provided the results that would have served as the final rating had the examination been permitted to continue to completion. This is for informational purposes only. Requests to appeal your rating will not be accepted as there is no further recourse for competitive actions." More details can be found at aljdiscussion.proboards.com/thread/4923/2018-numerical-results-informational?page=1
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Post by Pixie on Aug 24, 2017 8:28:35 GMT -5
Good work J. Knot. Many will find this useful.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Aug 24, 2017 8:46:25 GMT -5
Just to dust off the Big Chief tablet and stubby pencil - using last cycle as a guide looks like ~11/1/17 for online invitations, with the online component open the 10 days prior to Thanksgiving. DC testing invitations and self-scheduling beginning right after New Year's., DC testing in February.
Of course, there are many variables and we had an extended period of testing last time that was against general trends. All of these projections could be wrong. A good starting point for planning, though, I would think.
Good luck to all. You got this.
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Post by sophie22 on Aug 24, 2017 8:50:56 GMT -5
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Post by coffeeman on Aug 24, 2017 8:59:22 GMT -5
So, assuming it follows the 2016 timeline and if my math is correct, the new NORs won't hit until January 2019. So it's possible that those who made the registry in 2017 could have two or three rounds of certs before the fresh meat hits, correct?
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Post by JudgeKnot on Aug 24, 2017 9:00:00 GMT -5
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Post by Gaidin on Aug 24, 2017 9:20:24 GMT -5
Just to dust off the Big Chief tablet and stubby pencil - using last cycle as a guide looks like ~11/1/17 for online invitations, with the online component open the 10 days prior to Thanksgiving. DC testing invitations and self-scheduling beginning right after New Year's., DC testing in February. Of course, there are many variables and we had an extended period of testing last time that was against general trends. All of these projections could be wrong. A good starting point for planning, though, I would think. Good luck to all. You got this. I might bump everything after Thanksgiving out a few weeks (because of the winter holidays) but otherwise I think you're correct.
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Post by Pixie on Aug 24, 2017 9:51:33 GMT -5
So, assuming it follows the 2016 timeline and if my math is correct, the new NORs won't hit until January 2019. So it's possible that those who made the registry in 2017 could have two or three rounds of certs before the fresh meat hits, correct? Let's hope so. One of our members made the comment that things might move faster this time around, but I can't remember what that was based on. BTW, it is a Register and not a Registry. I am surprised fellow Word Nazi gary hasn't corrected more posters on this topic. I have left it alone, but when the word registry is used as frequently as the correct term, Register, it is probably time to step in and get us back on track. Sort of like the proper use of the term, "FOAD," which is properly used to describe the email sent out after (well after) all the offers have gone out thanking the candidate for her interest in the position, but all offers have been made. Sorry, maybe next time. Its use started creeping into all manner of unpleasant missives, but there is only one true FOAD email. Pixie
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Post by coffeeman on Aug 24, 2017 9:59:39 GMT -5
So, assuming it follows the 2016 timeline and if my math is correct, the new NORs won't hit until January 2019. So it's possible that those who made the registry in 2017 could have two or three rounds of certs before the fresh meat hits, correct? Let's hope so. One of our members made the comment that things might move faster this time around, but I can't remember what that was based on. BTW, it is a Register and not a Registry. I am surprised fellow Word Nazi gary hasn't corrected more posters on this topic. I have left it alone, but when the word registry is used as frequently as the correct term, Register, it is probably time to step in and get us back on track. Sort of like the proper use of the term, "FOAD," which is properly used to describe the email sent out after (well after) all the offers have gone out thanking the candidate for her interest in the position, but all offers have been made. Sorry, maybe next time. It's use started creeping into all manner of unpleasant missives, but there is only one true FOAD email. Pixie So, I shouldn't have requested a new set of dishware?
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Post by gary on Aug 24, 2017 10:02:34 GMT -5
So, assuming it follows the 2016 timeline and if my math is correct, the new NORs won't hit until January 2019. So it's possible that those who made the registry in 2017 could have two or three rounds of certs before the fresh meat hits, correct? Let's hope so. One of our members made the comment that things might move faster this time around, but I can't remember what that was based on. BTW, it is a Register and not a Registry. I am surprised fellow Word Nazi gary hasn't corrected more posters on this topic. I have left it alone, but when the word registry is used as frequently as the correct term, Register, it is probably time to step in and get us back on track. Sort of like the proper use of the term, "FOAD," which is properly used to describe the email sent out after (well after) all the offers have gone out thanking the candidate for her interest in the position, but all offers have been made. Sorry, maybe next time. It's use started creeping into all manner of unpleasant missives, but there is only one true FOAD email. Pixie Sometimes I feel like I'm correcting things too much, so I tend to let errors pass that don't seem likely to cause confusion. I confess that whenever someone uses "registry" rather than "register" it sets my teeth on edge.
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Post by foghorn on Aug 24, 2017 10:36:39 GMT -5
Let's hope so. One of our members made the comment that things might move faster this time around, but I can't remember what that was based on. BTW, it is a Register and not a Registry. I am surprised fellow Word Nazi gary hasn't corrected more posters on this topic. I have left it alone, but when the word registry is used as frequently as the correct term, Register, it is probably time to step in and get us back on track. Sort of like the proper use of the term, "FOAD," which is properly used to describe the email sent out after (well after) all the offers have gone out thanking the candidate for her interest in the position, but all offers have been made. Sorry, maybe next time. It's use started creeping into all manner of unpleasant missives, but there is only one true FOAD email. Pixie So, I shouldn't have requested a new set of dishware? It is a bit like a registry--with the GAL's you put down what you want. Everyone get's what they view as the cheap knock off version of what they really wanted, and then they shrug & hope to trade it away down the road. Then there are those grateful for what they get--we still have the wedding salad spinner we got. Still works as does the wedding juicer.
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Aug 24, 2017 10:41:57 GMT -5
So, assuming it follows the 2016 timeline and if my math is correct, the new NORs won't hit until January 2019. So it's possible that those who made the registry in 2017 could have two or three rounds of certs before the fresh meat hits, correct? Let's hope so. One of our members made the comment that things might move faster this time around, but I can't remember what that was based on. BTW, it is a Register and not a Registry. I am surprised fellow Word Nazi gary hasn't corrected more posters on this topic. I have left it alone, but when the word registry is used as frequently as the correct term, Register, it is probably time to step in and get us back on track. Sort of like the proper use of the term, "FOAD," which is properly used to describe the email sent out after (well after) all the offers have gone out thanking the candidate for her interest in the position, but all offers have been made. Sorry, maybe next time. It's use started creeping into all manner of unpleasant missives, but there is only one true FOAD email. Pixie I believe the comment on it might move faster this time was based on the speculation that there will be fewer applicants and with less volume that the testing period would be shorter and the time to review and issue NOR would be shorter as well. Folks are speculating smaller pool of applicants because the high number for 2016 may have been due to pent up demand as there was a longer gap between last application period. I suspect though that since there were so many cut in the online stage in the 2016 pool that many of those folks may abandon their appeal and start over. Oh - let's face it - we won't know how big this applicant pool is until it gets reported somewhere so speculation won't help - lol. All we can do is track the data here and know that this process takes approximately a year - give or take a few months. I am always amazed at how folks can obsess over these things.
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Post by newplayer on Aug 24, 2017 14:27:32 GMT -5
Thanks for that, JudgeKnot. A very useful way to keep track and much appreciated!
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Post by A.L. Cool J on Aug 24, 2017 14:52:57 GMT -5
PhoenixrisingALJ, please do not edit your last post. I don't know if you purposefully misspelled "pool" to go with "pent up demand," but the conceit is brilliant.
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Post by phoenixrisingALJ on Aug 24, 2017 15:19:23 GMT -5
PhoenixrisingALJ, please do not edit it your last post. I don't know if you purposefully misspelled "pool" to go with "pent up demand," but the conceit is brilliant. lol - I just caught my typo and fixed it - but your post made me laugh out loud!
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Post by A.L. Cool J on Aug 24, 2017 15:35:04 GMT -5
Well, those of you who missed the typo will just have to guess what it was.
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Post by rp on Aug 24, 2017 16:39:45 GMT -5
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Post by rp on Aug 24, 2017 17:08:01 GMT -5
Thanks, rp. I was just wondering whether there is good intel that a Medicare cert is coming. Ahhhh. Sorry. I think the CW is that there usually is one right after a Register refresh, IIRC. That is likely why it was included.
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Post by Pixie on Aug 24, 2017 22:43:14 GMT -5
Well, those of you who missed the typo will just have to guess what it was. I caught it, but as it involved a certain lower form of humor, I didn't care to comment on it. I am more refined than that! Pixie.
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Post by janebolin on Sept 2, 2017 17:48:40 GMT -5
I adapted this from a similar thread that was created for the 2016 application by tiberiustribble , thinking it would serve well to have this info in one place for future review/update. I've included the 2016 dates for quick comparison. If there are other important details that should be added, let me know and I'll figure out how to update it. And, as events have passed, remind me and I'll update those as well. Event | 2017 App | 2016 App | Application Period Opens | 8/23/17 | 3/29/16 | Application Period Closes | 8/30/17 | 4/8/16 | Invitations to take Online Component |
| 6/8/16 | Online Component Open |
| 6/20/16-7/1/16 | Invitations to DC Testing |
| 8/12/16 | Self-Scheduling Opens for DC Testing |
| 8/15/16 | DC Testing
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| 9/12/16-3/24/17 | AM Status Changes to Complete or SD |
| 5/25/17 | NORs Released |
| 6/13/17 | Notice to ALJ Candidate (ODAR Cert Notification) |
| 7/11/17 | Scheduling of ODAR Interviews |
| 7/17/17 | Interview Dates |
| 7/31/17-8/15/17 | Medicare Cert |
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| First Offers made (ODAR cert only) |
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| Second certificate |
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| Approximate applicants |
| 5500 | Approximate DC Testers |
| 2100 | Approximate NOR scores |
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Time to update our chart! I can't do it on my cell phone.
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