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Post by denise on Jan 23, 2018 8:02:34 GMT -5
If employees were instructed to show up for four hours on Monday to implement the shutdown, what will their next instruction be? Have they gone home, only to come back tomorrow morning and resume standard operations? My Monday telework day was canceled. I had to show up on Monday to shutdown (which consisted of me signing a document acknowledging that I was being furloughed, and placing an out of office message on my voice mail and email message that I was unavailable due to lapse in appropriations). I left right after I accomplished those tasks-- I didn't have to show up for four hours. Now I will return to work and remove the messages and resume normal operations. |
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Post by xoanon on Jan 23, 2018 12:10:17 GMT -5
My office made us stay the entire four hours even though we couldn't actually get any substantive work done.
Went home, worked out, watched "Air Disasters", now back in the office this morning undoing everything I did yesterday. At least I'm prepared for February 8th!
Any word on if we'll receive back-pay for the furloughed hours?
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Post by moopigsdad on Jan 23, 2018 12:39:56 GMT -5
You're far more optimistic than I am. The Senate may be able to pass a bill, but I see no reason to believe the House will do anything. Agree with this. There is no way the House passes the so-called bi-partisan DACA bill currently floating around the Senate. Like it or not - elections have consequences. They'd be smart to just start hammering out a 2-yr budget - to save them this same headache next year! No budget is likely to pass other than continuing resolutions until DACA is decided in some manner. The Republicans in control of Congress and the Presidency cannot get their act together after more than a year in the majority with both houses of Congress and the Executive office. It's not likely to magically occur now because we just had the umpteenth continuing resolution passed. Gridlock is the new normal in politics. Accept it and understand it will not change no matter how many election cycles we go through. The middle ground has too few supporters, while the extremes on both sides are too far entrenched. |
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Post by denise on Jan 23, 2018 12:59:27 GMT -5
Has anyone received notice that due to the government shutdown, AWS schedules have been canceled?
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Post by jessejames on Jan 23, 2018 13:06:50 GMT -5
Has anyone received notice that due to the government shutdown, AWS schedules have been canceled? |
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Post by bayou on Jan 23, 2018 14:32:37 GMT -5
Agree with this. There is no way the House passes the so-called bi-partisan DACA bill currently floating around the Senate. Like it or not - elections have consequences. They'd be smart to just start hammering out a 2-yr budget - to save them this same headache next year! No budget is likely to pass other than continuing resolutions until DACA is decided in some manner. The Republicans in control of Congress and the Presidency cannot get their act together after more than a year in the majority with both houses of Congress and the Executive office. It's not likely to magically occur now because we just had the umpteenth continuing resolution passed. Gridlock is the new normal in politics. Accept it and understand it will not change no matter how many election cycles we go through. The middle ground has too few supporters, while the extremes on both sides are too far entrenched. Regarding the middle groumd, I just listened to a series on gerrymandering. One of the points is that with gerrymandering you end up with a lot less competitive districts and the result is that with districts leaning strongly to the left or right, candidates who are more middle goround aren't competitive and you end up with a Congress full of the ends of the political spectrum and few from the middle. |
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Post by denise on Jan 23, 2018 14:36:57 GMT -5
Has anyone received notice that due to the government shutdown, AWS schedules have been canceled? We were told no AWS for the entire pay period 4 even though we were only shutdown for about 4 hours technically speaking since the other days were non work days 😬😬😬 |
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 14:53:35 GMT -5
You're far more optimistic than I am. The Senate may be able to pass a bill, but I see no reason to believe the House will do anything. Agree with this. There is no way the House passes the so-called bi-partisan DACA bill currently floating around the Senate. Like it or not - elections have consequences. They'd be smart to just start hammering out a 2-yr budget - to save them this same headache next year! Stevil called it www.politico.com/story/2018/01/23/playbook-steve-scalise-interview-immigration-358247However their bold-as-brass statement may give way to those in less red jurisdictions being unwilling to go on record as being against DACA recipients, who to be qualified for DACA have to have graduated HS, and hold a job. Not too long until May primaries--Do they want to fart around until March, risking what Congresspersons hate--committing to an issue where the public is evenly divided-- and hope that the primary voting public (which tends to follow the news) will have such a short memory or be so partisan that it won't matter? And know that in November they will face an energized minority base looking for payback? As was once said |
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 15:00:04 GMT -5
No budget is likely to pass other than continuing resolutions until DACA is decided in some manner. The Republicans in control of Congress and the Presidency cannot get their act together after more than a year in the majority with both houses of Congress and the Executive office. It's not likely to magically occur now because we just had the umpteenth continuing resolution passed. Gridlock is the new normal in politics. Accept it and understand it will not change no matter how many election cycles we go through. The middle ground has too few supporters, while the extremes on both sides are too far entrenched. Regarding the middle groumd, I just listened to a series on gerrymandering. One of the points is that with gerrymandering you end up with a lot less competitive districts and the result is that with districts leaning strongly to the left or right, candidates who are more middle goround aren't competitive and you end up with a Congress full of the ends of the political spectrum and few from the middle. Good point--and the effect is especially marked in primaries, more so again in non-presidential years, when the turnout is lighter and voters that show up tend to be more party loyalists, or those with an agenda. I guess on those lines we have to wonder how will the Kremlin & Shanghai trolls play it? On gerrymandering the question is 1)how will US Supreme Court rule in the Wisconsin case and 2) will it grant cert on the likely appeal from the Pennsylvania Supreme Courts ruling (on State Constitution issues) that gerrymandering violated the Pennsylvania Constitution? Note also the likely appeal of the USDC D NC ruling on their gerrymandered districts. |
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Post by bayou on Jan 23, 2018 15:00:56 GMT -5
My office made us stay the entire four hours even though we couldn't actually get any substantive work done. Went home, worked out, watched "Air Disasters", now back in the office this morning undoing everything I did yesterday. At least I'm prepared for February 8th! Any word on if we'll receive back-pay for the furloughed hours? My boss said he is reporting to his bar that his time on Monday was pro bono hours in representation of an indigent client. |
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 15:04:23 GMT -5
My office made us stay the entire four hours even though we couldn't actually get any substantive work done. Went home, worked out, watched "Air Disasters", now back in the office this morning undoing everything I did yesterday. At least I'm prepared for February 8th! Any word on if we'll receive back-pay for the furloughed hours? My boss said he is reporting to his bar that his time on Monday was pro bono hours in representation of an indigent client.
Perhaps claim it was a non-profit community based organization providing employment for repeat offenders? |
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Post by harp on Jan 23, 2018 15:09:24 GMT -5
No budget is likely to pass other than continuing resolutions until DACA is decided in some manner. The Republicans in control of Congress and the Presidency cannot get their act together after more than a year in the majority with both houses of Congress and the Executive office. It's not likely to magically occur now because we just had the umpteenth continuing resolution passed. Gridlock is the new normal in politics. Accept it and understand it will not change no matter how many election cycles we go through. The middle ground has too few supporters, while the extremes on both sides are too far entrenched. Regarding the middle groumd, I just listened to a series on gerrymandering. One of the points is that with gerrymandering you end up with a lot less competitive districts and the result is that with districts leaning strongly to the left or right, candidates who are more middle goround aren't competitive and you end up with a Congress full of the ends of the political spectrum and few from the middle. Proportional representation! |
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 15:10:44 GMT -5
As to the discussion about the House vs Senate, with certain parties claiming the Dems were "loosers" & Dems base being royally honked off, I see the Senate passing Durbin Graham, the House on autopilot to do a Megallon vs Godzilla over the cliff (or into the atomic pile from whence they came)bit, so another emergency cr but that one they'll be tempted /forced to run through May 15.
They may make nice-nice and surprise us, but that's one nasty grade school class with no nuns to issue the coreective rosary-as-nunchuk* thunk with the special 8 oz cross (made by hard bitten Dominican sisters in an undisclosed punishment camp for sisters who let their classes make a loud noise other than Catechistic responses)
* why do you think they call them Nun chucks?
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 15:12:58 GMT -5
Like Dshawn's d'shark!
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Post by stevil on Jan 23, 2018 16:12:14 GMT -5
My biggest fear is that by not compromising on DACA (meaning ending chain migration and going along with border security), and upping the DoD budget without corresponding increases on the domestic side, the democrats will allow the government to shut again - only to see pressure ratcheted up on the republicans to employ the nuclear option in the Senate - meaning one would only need a simple majority rather than 60 votes on budgetary matters. It's a short-term solution with catastrophic long-term implications. If that happens, as bad as things already are, compromise of virtually any kind will die and we will get basic mob rule. What I don't get is why politicians seem to always forget that the tables will inevitably turn, and the party in power now will not be in the future, and vice versa. Each party seems only to learn the dirty tricks the other employs - which helps feed the hatred from both fringes. They are guaranteed Platinum retirement pay whether they get re-elected or not, so arrogance and egos must be the real problem.
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Post by bayou on Jan 23, 2018 16:57:08 GMT -5
Regarding the middle groumd, I just listened to a series on gerrymandering. One of the points is that with gerrymandering you end up with a lot less competitive districts and the result is that with districts leaning strongly to the left or right, candidates who are more middle goround aren't competitive and you end up with a Congress full of the ends of the political spectrum and few from the middle. Proportional representation! They covered that also and pointed out concerns with that approach. I don't recall them right off the top of my head. The 538 podcast is what I'm referring to. They started with the Wisconsin case, then racial gerrymandering, then Arizona's independent committee districting based on creating competitive districts, and then California's community of interests approach. Fairly even handed coverage. |
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Post by harp on Jan 23, 2018 17:27:06 GMT -5
Proportional representation! They covered that also and pointed out concerns with that approach. I don't recall them right off the top of my head. The 538 podcast is what I'm referring to. They started with the Wisconsin case, then racial gerrymandering, then Arizona's independent committee districting based on creating competitive districts, and then California's community of interests approach. Fairly even handed coverage. I haven't listened to 538's podcast, but between Vox, NPR, Slate, Politico, Reveal, and Crooked Media (plus an entire season of 2 Dope Queens), my podcast backlog is almost as big as OHO's hearing backlog. I cannot let myself get hooked on a new one just yet! |
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Post by foghorn on Jan 23, 2018 18:22:51 GMT -5
To their credit the people manning notifications@USAjobs were cranking at 4:00 a.m. Only two notices, but I predict an icejam of notices following the hiatus.
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Post by bayou on Jan 23, 2018 18:25:08 GMT -5
They covered that also and pointed out concerns with that approach. I don't recall them right off the top of my head. The 538 podcast is what I'm referring to. They started with the Wisconsin case, then racial gerrymandering, then Arizona's independent committee districting based on creating competitive districts, and then California's community of interests approach. Fairly even handed coverage. I haven't listened to 538's podcast, but between Vox, NPR, Slate, Politico, Reveal, and Crooked Media (plus an entire season of 2 Dope Queens), my podcast backlog is almost as big as OHO's hearing backlog. I cannot let myself get hooked on a new one just yet! I hear ya. I just checked and my playlist is 352 hours long. With a total commute of 1 hour per day and new pods coming out daily, it's a backlog that won't be cleared anytime soon. |
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Post by hopefalj on Jan 23, 2018 18:53:30 GMT -5
I haven't listened to 538's podcast, but between Vox, NPR, Slate, Politico, Reveal, and Crooked Media (plus an entire season of 2 Dope Queens), my podcast backlog is almost as big as OHO's hearing backlog. I cannot let myself get hooked on a new one just yet! I hear ya. I just checked and my playlist is 352 hours long. With a total commute of 1 hour per day and new pods coming out daily, it's a backlog that won't be cleared anytime soon. Sounds like you need to schedule more hearings. |
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