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Post by Asterisk on Jun 13, 2008 11:40:12 GMT -5
Well...they SHOULD have gone out yesterday! It is almost for sure we will not hear anything today.- I can't see them sending out anything on a Fri. As to the press release, SSA may be many things and not many things, but it is quite habitual. Chances are pretty good we'll get the press release before any offers. It is interesting that it is taking so long, with so few positions to fill. There is, as stated earlier, probably some complicaiton...but what in the world could it be?  Perhaps if there is a committee, or multiple ones, they just couldn't get them all together yet..vacations, ballgames, graduations, etc., etc., etc... Remember, this is real big and important to us...but to the powers that be? Does this qualify as an exigent circumstance? You know, that Jeopardy theme seems to be getting a Little old... |
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Post by corrina on Jun 13, 2008 11:55:15 GMT -5
Thank you all for anointing me but I was quoting "Anonymous Guest" on the Wild West
Board. The very same anon guest had the kindness to provide us with information last week.
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Post by chieftain on Jun 13, 2008 12:00:00 GMT -5
Must there be a press release to precede the offers? I can understand for the last cert. It was a large hire and it was the first significant hire in years. That was newsworthy. Is this cert on the same order such that the agency would send out a press release?
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Post by Asterisk on Jun 13, 2008 12:00:37 GMT -5
"Thank you all for anointing me but I was quoting "Anonymous Guest" on the Wild West Board. The very same anon guest had the kindness to provide us with information last week. " I think "Corrina the Insightful" may be more apt!  |
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Post by corrina on Jun 13, 2008 12:05:15 GMT -5
Wow! Gifts for our anxious weekend. Thank you very much, and may we all follow much
excellent previous advice and "Breathe."
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Post by bb on Jun 13, 2008 13:12:44 GMT -5
Are they going to do a press release this time?
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Post by zia234 on Jun 13, 2008 14:01:52 GMT -5
I called today and was informed that offers would go out early next week.
I see Corrina called as well, and got the same info.
Have a great weekend!
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Post by privateatty on Jun 13, 2008 14:10:29 GMT -5
I called today and was informed that offers would go out early next week. I see Corrina called as well, and got the same info. Have a great weekend! Early next week, next week... Heckuva way to run a business--get a different answer every time you call. Thanks, though, to those who have taken the palace by the antennae and called... And jh, I am breathing, and taking care of all of my other bodily functions which soon will also entail a healthy dose of ETOH! ;D |
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Post by privateattorney on Jun 13, 2008 14:46:12 GMT -5
Well, I only just now was able to access my office computer remotely from out of state. At least now I know the fact that I have not received an e-mail does not yet mean it's time to throw in the towel. Everybody have a good weekend and have fun!
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Post by testtaker on Jun 13, 2008 14:51:28 GMT -5
I called today and was informed that offers would go out early next week. I see Corrina called as well, and got the same info. Corrina did not call. She was quoting someone from the Wild West board. Thanks for calling Zia, as the response you got was better than the one Anonymous got, which was "hopefully" next week. |
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Post by anotheroldtimer on Jun 13, 2008 15:35:33 GMT -5
Next week all the HOCALJs and HODs will be in Phoenix for a summit. The chief judge will there with appearances by the deputy commissioner and the commissioner. May not be a chance to get offers out unless they come up with the list this weekend and let the staff make the calls.
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Post by morgullord on Jun 13, 2008 22:18:10 GMT -5
Here is my estimate of the situation: The announcement for the NHC in Albuquerque generated a lot of interest. Filling those slots created vacancies in hearing offices desired by sitting judges who are on the transfer register. I believe the CBA for the judges gives them a set amount of time to accept or reject when they get the call from the transfer register. There was also the issue of judges who may want to reconsider their transfer given the new openings. All of this must be resolved before OCALJ can decide where the new resources will go.
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Post by sta on Jun 14, 2008 8:44:38 GMT -5
There is no collective bargaining agreement applicable to the National Hearing Centers. Management has discretion to hire under traditional merit selection vacancy announcements (internal) or OPM registers as it sees fit.
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 14, 2008 10:05:55 GMT -5
I am not sure that Morg was suggesting there was a CBA applicable specifically to the NHCs. Unless I miss my labor law guess, what he outlined was a domino effect created as a result of openings IN the Albuquerque NHC. Meaning that some sitting SSA ALJ in - oh, I dunno, Nowhere, Nevada had been on the transfer list to move to Albuquerque, and the slots at the NHC there were advertised, and she threw her hat in the ring, and the SSA moved her laterally into the NHC - THEN there would be a position open in Nowhere Nevada. And then, as I understand matters, there just might have been an ALJ somewhere else who was on the Transfer List who wanted to go to Nowhere ( making him a "real nowhere man" of course  ). "I don't know but I've been told" that the pressure from the Union was HUGE to fulfill requests from the Transfer List prior to new candidates being made offers. ( I DO know that, in the last go-around, several slots --- including one of "mine" disappeared from the fill because transfers were effected after the Inquiry as to our geographic availability went out but before offers were made. <<sigh>>) So the SSA could then have transfered THAT ALJ to the slot vacated by the ALJ headed for Albuquerque. Creating another hole in manning, and so on, and so on, and so on....... Thus it is possible that the alleged "delay" currently perceived as to offers going out on this second Cert COULD be due to openings created by fills at the NHC being filled from the Transfer List which may have affected the geographic availability for openings from this Cert. Ah'm guessing I made that as clear as Mississippi Mud..... |
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Post by jagghagg on Jun 14, 2008 15:26:37 GMT -5
So how do ALJ CBA end up applying to non-union SSA ALJ positions?... ;D Never said they did. Try it this way: 1) An ALJ subject to CBA requirements sees the outstanding opportunity to go to a NHC in .... say .....Albuquerque. 2. She applies and gets the job and happily goes off to Albuquerque. She leaves behind her job in Nowhere, Nevada. (Remember THAT job in Nowhere IS subject to CBA requirements.) 3. Some dude ALJ in Numbskull, Nebraska has been sitting on the Transfer List - just DYING for a chance to transfer to Nowhere, Nevada. Lo and behold, he sees that there is a job opening. And, happy days, HE is on the transfer list for it. 4) If, then, the Union urges the SSA to fill the transfer requests they have pending --- as they did during the machinations which took place for the first Cert --- and if the SSA does, indeed, act on those transfer requests, then ALJ in Numbskull, Nebraska books on over to Nowhere, leaving Numbskull open. 5) And this could go on and on if there was some ALJ in Nitwit, North Dakota then who wanted to go to Numbskull....and so on, and so on, and so on. ( It's not the NHC slot that is subject to the transfer requirements of the CBA -- it's the slots vacated by an ALJ moving TO the NHC, and the slots vacated by other ALJ's moving to THAT position...) So what I think was being suggested is that the move of a sitting ALJ (Ms Nowhere) to the Albuquerque NHC may have begun a domino effect of opening - AND CLOSING - slots which ARE subject to the transfer requirements of the CBA and, in so doing, may have affected the slots which were originally on the localities noted for the second cert. If that happened, it might - might - have slowed down the process. ....and the silt in the river of "just an educated guess" gets thicker. |
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Post by notherapp on Jun 14, 2008 15:50:09 GMT -5
I bought a lottery ticket for tonight in the juvenile hope that I would get the ALJ position as a consolation prize. Having said that, I think that Tuesday 6/17 at 2:00 EST is when the appointments are going to be announced. Alternatively, should I win the lottery, I would generously relinquish my ALJ position.
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Post by workdrone on Jun 14, 2008 16:46:05 GMT -5
( It's not the NHC slot that is subject to the transfer requirements of the CBA -- it's the slots vacated by an ALJ moving TO the NHC, and the slots vacated by other ALJ's moving to THAT position...) Gotcha. Thanks for the clarification. I was brain dead this morning. |
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Post by morgullord on Jun 14, 2008 18:37:59 GMT -5
If you ever see us together, Jagghagg is the articulate one.
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Perhaps if there is a committee, or multiple ones, they just couldn't get them all together yet..vacations, ballgames, graduations, etc., etc., etc...
). "I don't know but I've been told" that the pressure from the Union was HUGE to fulfill requests from the Transfer List prior to new candidates being made offers. (I DO know that, in the last go-around, several slots --- including one of "mine" disappeared from the fill because transfers were effected after the Inquiry as to our geographic availability went out but before offers were made. <<sigh>>) So the SSA could then have transfered THAT ALJ to the slot vacated by the ALJ headed for Albuquerque. Creating another hole in manning, and so on, and so on, and so on.......