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Post by Pixie on Mar 10, 2020 8:31:07 GMT -5
Well, I am no longer worried about the coronavirus. This morning at 7:10 I heard our President say the following. Not quoted but paraphrased:
We will soon have a vaccine for the virus, and sooner than that we will have a "Therapy." The Therapy will make it much better; it will just go away.
I wasn't sure I heard correctly, so I listened again just now at 9:10. Yep, there it was. This time I took notes.
So no concerns. If one is infected, not to worry. Just take something like an Aspirin or the Tamiflu and it will just go away. It will be a beautiful Therapy.
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Post by christina on Mar 10, 2020 8:41:28 GMT -5
Well, I am no longer worried about the coronavirus. This morning at 7:10 I heard our President say the following. Not quoted but paraphrased: We will soon have a vaccine for the virus, and sooner than that we will have a "Therapy." The Therapy will make it much better; it will just go away. I wasn't sure I heard correctly, so I listened again just now at 9:10. Yep, there it was. This time I took notes. So no concerns. If one is infected, not to worry. Just take something like an Aspirin or the Tamiflu and it will just go away. It will be a beautiful Therapy. I am relieved!!!
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Post by mrmojo on Mar 10, 2020 8:44:43 GMT -5
Well, I am no longer worried about the coronavirus. This morning at 7:10 I heard our President say the following. Not quoted but paraphrased: We will soon have a vaccine for the virus, and sooner than that we will have a "Therapy." The Therapy will make it much better; it will just go away. I wasn't sure I heard correctly, so I listened again just now at 9:10. Yep, there it was. This time I took notes. So no concerns. If one is infected, not to worry. Just take something like an Aspirin or the Tamiflu and it will just go away. It will be a beautiful Therapy. To quote an op-ed headline in the Times yesterday: "You can't gaslight a virus". John Oliver did a small segment about it on Sunday, showing el presidente saying that we were months away from a vaccine, a year at most, with a public health official immediately following up by saying "a year to a year and a half at the earliest". I don't think el presidente is capable of dealing with true things. He's simply spent too much of his life trying to create his own reality.
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Post by stevil on Mar 10, 2020 8:52:25 GMT -5
We're up to 22 deaths as of today 15 of these 22 deaths were at a single, poorly run nursing home in Washington State. The average age of fatality in the United States so far is 80. Yeah, but the average age of those requiring medical intervention is 60. Many of us resemble that, and you add underlying hypertension (which 50% of the 170 deaths China examined in depth had - and which alot of ALJs seem to have) and there is ample ground to worry. This ain't your Grandpa's flu!
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Post by harp on Mar 10, 2020 9:01:24 GMT -5
15 of these 22 deaths were at a single, poorly run nursing home in Washington State. The average age of fatality in the United States so far is 80. Yeah, but the average age of those requiring medical intervention is 60. Many of us resemble that, and you add underlying hypertension (which 50% of the 170 deaths China examined in depth had - and which alot of ALJs seem to have) and there is ample ground to worry. This ain't your Grandpa's flu! As with any communicable disease, it’s also not just about the individual. I bet every office has at least one person who is immunocompromised. I am sure most offices have one person with an immediate family member fighting cancer. I am young and healthy but also regularly come into contact with those who are neither. I am far less worried about dying from this virus than I am with spreading it to those more vulnerable than me.
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Post by christina on Mar 10, 2020 10:00:28 GMT -5
Yeah, but the average age of those requiring medical intervention is 60. Many of us resemble that, and you add underlying hypertension (which 50% of the 170 deaths China examined in depth had - and which alot of ALJs seem to have) and there is ample ground to worry. This ain't your Grandpa's flu! As with any communicable disease, it’s also not just about the individual. I bet every office has at least one person who is immunocompromised. I am sure most offices have one person with an immediate family member fighting cancer. I am young and healthy but also regularly come into contact with those who are neither. I am far less worried about dying from this virus than I am with spreading it to those more vulnerable than me. My exact concerns. I’m at risk to get sick and need to physically miss some time from work most likely recovering at home. But I have older family members and everyone I could come in contact with pretty much inevitably knows at least one high risk and perhaps many high risk others. I will also be taking my contagious factor for flu like symptoms far more seriously from here on out, namely to avoid being part of spreading the flu to high risk persons. Until recently I was not paying enough attention that the flu can also be devastating to some
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Post by jagvet on Mar 10, 2020 12:16:31 GMT -5
I'm not as worried about coworkers as I am claimants as a source of virus. In California, there are enormous homeless populations, and a very high percentage of the caseloads here are homeless people. When you review their records, even if they come in for a back problem or mental issue, if they go to the doctor at all, it is often for communicable diseases which are aggravated by constant smoking and resultant COPD.
These claimants have close contact with guards, receptionist, reps, other claimants, hearing monitors (watch those pens), who may further transmit.
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Post by Pixie on Mar 10, 2020 16:06:12 GMT -5
And yet, the SSA does nothing. Business as usual.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2020 16:14:34 GMT -5
From someone in Italy:
“This is an update on my personal page today. I am in Milan in the heart of the coronavirus red zone . I know we are all sick of hearing about it. I certainly am, but I wanted to share these thoughts because I feel like there is a lot of misinformation out there. Considering we've been in some form of lockdown for three weeks now (now drastic measures are being taken and we are quarantined at home), I feel like I've become somewhat of an expert on this. At least, this is my experience and what I've learned in these weeks. We are fine physically (for now), but, mentally, quarantine conditions and the devastating news around us does take its toll. To anyone anywhere saying, “Hey, it’s just the flu” or “The flu causes more deaths per year,” STOP. The rate of transmission with coronavirus is much higher and none of us is vaccinated against it. Worse, it causes a type of pneumonia that can leave patients in intensive care for weeks. The idea that it only affects the elderly or those with immune disorders is also wrong. No healthcare system in the world can handle the onslaught this virus brings with it, and we should not put our doctors and nurses in a position where they have to decide who gets the last bed in intensive care, who gets the last respirator. The hospital down the road where my children were born has had to adopt a “selection protocol” whereby they decide who lives or dies, and this is something that hasn’t been enacted since World War II. As someone who has been mired in all of this since Feb. 24. I would just like to give some advice to anyone in the world in an area where coronavirus is starting to ramp up. First and foremost, you don’t necessarily need to hoard toilet paper but you should get stocked up on your prescriptions. Primary-care doctors are at great risk of being exposed to coronavirus, so if they are taken out of commission (and even once the madness reaches fever pitch), it makes it harder for you to get the things you need. Also, once this is widespread, medical offices, hospitals and pharmacies are not places you want to hang out. Finally, we are all soldiers in this fight. The less we are out and about, moving around, the more this virus dies out. We may have to be inconvenienced or have to change our habits for a while, but our actions have a direct impact on the lives of everyone around us, with effects that are felt far and wide.”
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 10, 2020 16:26:37 GMT -5
Looks like it: "New York’s governor announced Tuesday he is sending the National Guard into a New York City suburb to help fight what is believed to be the nation’s biggest cluster of coronavirus cases — one of the most dramatic actions yet to control the outbreak in the U.S. The move came as health authorities contended with alarming concentrations of the disease on both sides of the country and scattered cases in between. Schools, houses of worship and large gathering places will be shuttered for two weeks in a “containment area” centered in New Rochelle, and the troops will scrub surfaces and deliver food to the zone, which extends a mile in all directions from a point near a synagogue connected to some of the cases, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said." “It is a dramatic action, but it is the largest cluster of cases in the country,” Cuomo said. “The numbers are going up unabated, and we do need a special public health strategy.” apnews.com/96e87b81f05f7ec54fc3e0ad152bd25c Not exactly martial law, the troops are there to clean up and provide food, not enforce a curfew or quarantines. (Edit- I may have been a bit too quick to downplay this, though not there force people to remain in their homes, the troops will enforce the closing of gathering places) It's horrifying how much it spread in New Rochelle. The attorney who has been identified as patient zero is in a coma. He hadn't traveled anywhere overseas, so he caught it from someone here in the US. If it's not airborne I don't understand how it got spread so widely. As of a couple of days ago, basically everyone who had been identified as having caught it was at the same synagogue either for regular services or for a funeral or a Bat Mitzvah that were held there. For anyone wondering, New Rochelle is about 10 miles away from two different OHO offices. The Westchester office would presumably service most claims coming from the town.
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Post by christina on Mar 10, 2020 17:12:19 GMT -5
Looks like it: "New York’s governor announced Tuesday he is sending the National Guard into a New York City suburb to help fight what is believed to be the nation’s biggest cluster of coronavirus cases — one of the most dramatic actions yet to control the outbreak in the U.S. The move came as health authorities contended with alarming concentrations of the disease on both sides of the country and scattered cases in between. Schools, houses of worship and large gathering places will be shuttered for two weeks in a “containment area” centered in New Rochelle, and the troops will scrub surfaces and deliver food to the zone, which extends a mile in all directions from a point near a synagogue connected to some of the cases, Gov. Andrew Cuomo said." “It is a dramatic action, but it is the largest cluster of cases in the country,” Cuomo said. “The numbers are going up unabated, and we do need a special public health strategy.” apnews.com/96e87b81f05f7ec54fc3e0ad152bd25c Not exactly martial law, the troops are there to clean up and provide food, not enforce a curfew or quarantines. It's horrifying how much it spread in New Rochelle. The attorney who has been identified as patient zero is in a coma. He hadn't traveled anywhere overseas, so he caught it from someone here in the US. If it's not airborne I don't understand how it got spread so widely. As of a couple of days ago, basically everyone who had been identified as having caught it was at the same synagogue either for regular services or for a funeral or a Bat Mitzvah that were held there. For anyone wondering, New Rochelle is about 10 miles away from two different OHO offices. The Westchester office would presumably service most claims coming from the town. I am sad to see he is in coma. What a nightmare for his family, friends, and fellow congregants. From what I saw on news, he is one of best nyc hospitals around?
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 10, 2020 17:40:18 GMT -5
Columbia Presbyterian is certainly one of the better hospitals generally (two of my kids born there without incident, subsequent personality problems I blame on the parents); I have no special insight into which hospital is best in this case.
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Post by uboat on Mar 10, 2020 19:25:12 GMT -5
From someone in Italy: “This is an update on my personal page today. I am in Milan in the heart of the coronavirus red zone . I know we are all sick of hearing about it. I certainly am, but I wanted to share these thoughts because I feel like there is a lot of misinformation out there. Considering we've been in some form of lockdown for three weeks now (now drastic measures are being taken and we are quarantined at home), I feel like I've become somewhat of an expert on this. At least, this is my experience and what I've learned in these weeks. We are fine physically (for now), but, mentally, quarantine conditions and the devastating news around us does take its toll. To anyone anywhere saying, “Hey, it’s just the flu” or “The flu causes more deaths per year,” STOP. The rate of transmission with coronavirus is much higher and none of us is vaccinated against it. Worse, it causes a type of pneumonia that can leave patients in intensive care for weeks. The idea that it only affects the elderly or those with immune disorders is also wrong. No healthcare system in the world can handle the onslaught this virus brings with it, and we should not put our doctors and nurses in a position where they have to decide who gets the last bed in intensive care, who gets the last respirator. The hospital down the road where my children were born has had to adopt a “selection protocol” whereby they decide who lives or dies, and this is something that hasn’t been enacted since World War II. As someone who has been mired in all of this since Feb. 24. I would just like to give some advice to anyone in the world in an area where coronavirus is starting to ramp up. First and foremost, you don’t necessarily need to hoard toilet paper but you should get stocked up on your prescriptions. Primary-care doctors are at great risk of being exposed to coronavirus, so if they are taken out of commission (and even once the madness reaches fever pitch), it makes it harder for you to get the things you need. Also, once this is widespread, medical offices, hospitals and pharmacies are not places you want to hang out. Finally, we are all soldiers in this fight. The less we are out and about, moving around, the more this virus dies out. We may have to be inconvenienced or have to change our habits for a while, but our actions have a direct impact on the lives of everyone around us, with effects that are felt far and wide.” Bingo. This s**t is real. There are almost certainly many more (probably by a factor of at least 10) actual cases in the US than are currently being reported, due to the lack of testing. Anyone in the USA who does not adopt significant social distancing precautions is putting themselves and others at risk.
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Post by uboat on Mar 10, 2020 19:51:01 GMT -5
And yet, the SSA does nothing. Business as usual. Sadly, but predictably, yes. We should be taking an example form Google—who have instructed all North American employees to work from home unless their work precludes doing so— in order to lessen the inevitable eventual burden on the nation's healthcare system.
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Post by hamster on Mar 10, 2020 21:01:01 GMT -5
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Post by superalj on Mar 11, 2020 7:40:08 GMT -5
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Post by Pixie on Mar 11, 2020 8:41:17 GMT -5
Now he needs to tell the Commissioner of Social Security. Evidently the Commissioner hasn't gotten the word. Pixie
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 11, 2020 8:45:00 GMT -5
Traffic here in NYC has definitely been lighter this week (from a subjective commuter's standpoint, haven't heard any official estimate). It's been more like summer time.
With both Easter and Passover not for another month I doubt it's tied to multiple school districts on spring break.
What's interesting was I feared it might go the other way, with train commuters driving in so as to limit contact with others. But if that's happening it's being offset by a lot of drivers not going in at all.
So I'm guessing there is a lot of telecommuting happening.
Meanwhile, the St. Patrick's Day parade is still happening (as of now). Being on a Tuesday was going to being down attendance this year anyway, but if it does go off I wonder what it will look like.
(The cynic in me can't help but think the mayor's office is going to end up cancelling, but they are going to wait until as many tourists as possible arrive).
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Post by nylawyer on Mar 11, 2020 8:50:29 GMT -5
Now he needs to tell the Commissioner of Social Security. Evidently the Commissioner hasn't gotten the word. Pixie Without listing all the small and easy things that ought be done that would minimally impact operations (like a sign in the lobby), I'm surprised employees aren't being told to bring home laptops. If something unfortunate and sudden happens employees may not even be able to telework.
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Post by christina on Mar 11, 2020 9:05:54 GMT -5
Can someone give us non wapo subscribers more details on this article? Thx
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