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Post by superalj on Nov 29, 2021 10:17:04 GMT -5
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Post by Ace Midnight on Nov 29, 2021 11:52:37 GMT -5
The story about Dickie Betts learning how to play slide instead of sleeping on the way to the first show after Duane died has always been an inspiration to me.
Of course, one cannot teach oneself what Skydog could do on the guitar, particularly with a Coricidin medicine bottle used as a slide. Not in one night nor in one lifetime (or at least very few could even approach it in a lifetime). And Duane was scary good while still in his teens.
But faced with the reality that a live Dickie Betts is what they had, however great the deceased Duane Allman was, he at least became competent in the discipline.
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Post by Pixie on Nov 29, 2021 13:59:38 GMT -5
The story about Dickie Betts learning how to play slide instead of sleeping on the way to the first show after Duane died has always been an inspiration to me. Of course, one cannot teach oneself what Skydog could do on the guitar, particularly with a Coricidin medicine bottle used as a slide. Not in one night nor in one lifetime (or at least very few could even approach it in a lifetime). And Duane was scary good while still in his teens. But faced with the reality that a live Dickie Betts is what they had, however great the deceased Duane Allman was, he at least became competent in the discipline. Yes, he did. And he was a good guitar player in his own right, irrespective of his slide playing. Duane had gone on tour with Eric Clapton doing the Layla thing. When he came back to the Allman Brothers Band, Gregg asked him how he liked Eric's playing. Duane responded, "He's mighty good, but he ain't got nothing on Dickie." High praise from a man of few words. I can still hear his soft Southern accent today, all of these years later. I've probably said this before, but it was a long time ago. Duane had two things going for him: 1) Natural talent. 2) An unrelenting drive to work hard to get what he wanted. When I knew him, I never saw him without the guitar around his neck. He even took it to the kitchen and the bathroom with him. I asked Gregg, on one of the few times he was home, if Duane ever let go of the guitar. "Nope, he even takes it to bed and sleeps with it." They shared a bedroom, so he would know. Duane hadn't yet started work on his slide; he was still playing regular guitar. It took him a while to learn slide as there was no one to sit down with him and show him what to do. He had to figure it out on his own. Once he learned the trick of using open tuning for slide work, he progressed quickly. About 3 or 4 years later, Duane was in Muscle Shoals living in a cabin in the woods next to a lake while he was doing sessions work at Fame Studio. One of the guys who hung around the cabin made the same comment about what I had noticed in Daytona Beach: "He always had that guitar with him, and was constantly practicing. I realized then what it took to be one of the greatest guitar players of all time." Yep, Duane was one of the greatest. RIP, Buddy. Pixie |
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Post by superalj on Nov 30, 2021 12:49:47 GMT -5
Eat a Peach is one of my favorite albums of all time. Besides being an amazing musician, Greg was one scary looking dude in Rush with Jason Patrick and Jennifer Jason Leigh. Great movie!
As for Clapton, I’m done with him after his ignorant anti vaccine remarks.
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Post by Ace Midnight on Nov 30, 2021 15:35:44 GMT -5
I read Don Felder's book some years back. He had this amazing set of stories having been at that Gainesville nexus - he was good friends with Stephen Stills before either was famous. He worked with pre-Eagles Bernie Leadon (his conduit to stardom). He mentored a high school Tom Petty and "taught him some chords." He also knew the pre-fame Allman Brothers and the main thing he remembered about them back then was that their mom let them smoke marijuana in the house.
And of course, we learn just how bad a human being Glenn Frey (and to a lesser degree Don Henley) was.
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Post by 2rvrrun on Nov 30, 2021 20:23:27 GMT -5
Yep, Eat A Peach was a real work of love and art.
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Post by tom b on Dec 1, 2021 9:54:53 GMT -5
For me, the band hit its heights with the Fillmore East live album. "Whipping Post," which takes up an entire side, is one of the greatest live recordings I've ever heard. It ironically started with Berry Oakley's bass guitar and ended with Duane Allman's lead guitar. Both were dead within about a year of making the recording.
I've mentioned in other parts of this board that I had the pleasure of hearing the "full" Allman Brothers Band at the Richmond Arena in 1971. I believe it was Duane's last live show.
I envy Pixie's close connection with the great and inestimable Duane Allman. RIP indeed.
Respectfully, Tom B
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Post by sta on Dec 1, 2021 10:45:12 GMT -5
Are you referring to the following recording: ?
It is about 11 and 1/2 minutes long.
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Post by tom b on Dec 1, 2021 11:28:19 GMT -5
Good performance, but no. The version on the Fillmore East album is 22 minutes and change. It includes, towards the end, a few measures of "Joy to the World" (not the Three Dog Night version). 'Tis the season and all.
Respectfully, Tom B
Okay, my memory is not what it used to be. The "Joy to the World" lick is on another extended song from that concert recording, "You Don't Love Me," which runs just short of 20 minutes and comprises all of Side 2. Interestingly, you can hear the Oakley intro to "Whipping Post" taking off as "You Don't Love Me" ends, although on the final "print" of the Capricorn 2-album set (4 sides in all) "Whipping Post" is separately introduced and separately recorded on Side 4. |
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Post by carrickfergus on Dec 2, 2021 13:51:17 GMT -5
When I was poor law student at UGA I got a lot of bang for the buck by playing tracks from Fillmore East on the jukebox at the Nowhere Bar
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Post by privateatty on Dec 2, 2021 14:49:38 GMT -5
Perhaps Skydog's most reverent and talented student in abstentia was and is Derek Trucks. A child prodigy if there ever was one. I recently heard Tedeschi Trucks' cover of the entire Layla album performed live and I heartily recommend it. Do crank it up in the car after getting the cd. Trey, Doyle and Derek slash and burn. Of course it isn't the original but then the original didn't have Susan Tedeschi.
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Post by Pixie on Dec 2, 2021 16:42:49 GMT -5
I read Don Felder's book some years back. He had this amazing set of stories having been at that Gainesville nexus - he was good friends with Stephen Stills before either was famous. He worked with pre-Eagles Bernie Leadon (his conduit to stardom). He mentored a high school Tom Petty and "taught him some chords." He also knew the pre-fame Allman Brothers and the main thing he remembered about them back then was that their mom let them smoke marijuana in the house.And of course, we learn just how bad a human being Glenn Frey (and to a lesser degree Don Henley) was. When I was there, I never saw any drug use in the house; that must have come later. In fact I never saw Duane use Marijuana or any other drugs. Gregg? That was a different situation. My friend and I were usually there in the mornings for breakfast, and Gregg was still out, not having come home from the night before. When we would ask where Gregg was, Duane would invariably say, "He's out surfing." I always suspected he was doing something else, but never said it. Although Gregg could have gotten up and left before we got there. Mother G left for work a little before 9:00, and we would time our arrival until after she left. Then we would go in and have a big breakfast of eggs and bacon that she had bought the day before for the boys. She liked it that her sons were finally eating. Duane liked it because it got her off of his back about not eating, and we liked it because we got a good meal for the day. Everybody was happy. Pixie |
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 3, 2021 14:56:20 GMT -5
Gregg and Felder were the same age, but I didn't get the impression he was close with them at all until right before their big launch - so the Continentals (Felder and Stills), the Epics (Tom Petty and Tom Leadon, Bernie's brother) and the Allman Joys - maybe '68 or so. Was your time with them after they were both back from military school in Tennessee? ETA: Mama G was originally from North Carolina, no?  |
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 3, 2021 15:35:02 GMT -5
I read Don Felder's book some years back. He had this amazing set of stories having been at that Gainesville nexus - he was good friends with Stephen Stills before either was famous. He worked with pre-Eagles Bernie Leadon (his conduit to stardom). He mentored a high school Tom Petty and "taught him some chords." He also knew the pre-fame Allman Brothers and the main thing he remembered about them back then was that their mom let them smoke marijuana in the house.And of course, we learn just how bad a human being Glenn Frey (and to a lesser degree Don Henley) was. When I was there, I never saw any drug use in the house; that must have come later. In fact I never saw Duane use Marijuana or any other drugs. Gregg? That was a different situation. My friend and I were usually there in the mornings for breakfast, and Gregg was still out, not having come home from the night before. When we would ask where Gregg was, Duane would invariably say, "He's out surfing." I always suspected he was doing something else, but never said it. Although Gregg could have gotten up and left before we got there. Mother G left for work a little before 9:00, and we would time our arrival until after she left. Then we would go in and have a big breakfast of eggs and bacon that she had bought the day before for the boys. She liked it that her sons were finally eating. Duane liked it because it got her off of his back about not eating, and we liked it because we got a good meal for the day. Everybody was happy. Pixie Any word on who’s playing you in the upcoming biopic? “Music biopics have been announced and released left and right this year and now we have another one to look forward to. Nick Cassavetes and Sunset Blvd Films are partnering up to bring us a new biopic based on 70s rock legends The Allman Brothers Band, Deadline reports. The film, which doesn't have a title yet, will take viewers back in time and examine the lives of Gregg and Duane Allman from their beginnings of being raised by a single mother and enduring childhood hardships to earning their spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995 and all points in between.“ |
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Post by Pixie on Dec 3, 2021 18:37:38 GMT -5
Gregg and Felder were the same age, but I didn't get the impression he was close with them at all until right before their big launch - so the Continentals (Felder and Stills), the Epics (Tom Petty and Tom Leadon, Bernie's brother) and the Allman Joys - maybe '68 or so. Was your time with them after they were both back from military school in Tennessee?ETA: Mama G was originally from North Carolina, no? Their Mother had just pulled them out of military school when I knew them. They were most happy to be done with that. Duane never graduated from high school, but I believe Gregg graduated from Seabreeze High in Daytona. At one point he had wanted to be a dentist, and actually studied to get good grades. I'm having to drag to the depths of my memory for this one. I know their father was from Tennessee, and they spent a lot of time in and around Nashville. He was an Army Officer, a 1st Lt., I think, and was stationed in N. C—maybe Ft. Bragg. I believe that is where he met Jerry (later Mama G). One night he and another officer had given a ride to an enlisted man, who attempted to rob them. Unfortunately, Willis was shot and killed. The other officer got away. Duane was just a child and had no memory of his father. Gregg was an infant. Jerry moved to Tennessee to be close to Willis' parents for support. They were living on the west side of town. I believe the grandparents they were living with were from Dickson, TN, maybe to the west of Nashville. There were several good musicians on that side of the family. Don't remember if Willis had exhibited any talent. Jerry had a friend, Max Gatewood, from Daytona who was living in Nashville on the south side of town. Many of the teenagers in that area would hang around Max's house to smoke cigarettes and drink beer. That's one way Duane and Gregg got a strong Nashville connection. Wherever Duane would go, Gregg would tag along. Or, as a friend of mine said, where you would see one, you would see the other. They spent much of their summers at Max's house. I got to know Max one spring when a friend of mine and I went back down to Daytona to see Duane and Gregg. We spent the night at his house. He was used to putting kids up, and we had a good time staying up talking. When we got to Max's house my first question was, "Are Duane and Gregg still living on Van Avenue * with their mother?" The answer to that was, "Yes, but they have a band together and are on the road." I never even considered that possibility. This was about 1968. A lot had happened since I had known them. I told Max to tell them I had come back to see them, and would be back in a year or so. The next thing I knew, they were the Allman Brothers Band. I always thought I would see Duane one more time again. But that ended on 10/29/71. I did see Gregg again in the late 70s, but that is a tale for another time. Also, I saw them in concert in the early 80s, post Duane. This is rather disjointed, but as I would remember one thing, something else would pop into my mind, so I just kept writing. I believe everything is accurate, but I did it all from memory. ______ * 100 Van Avenue, if my memory is correct. |
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Post by 2rvrrun on Dec 3, 2021 19:23:40 GMT -5
Thanks Pixie for sharing.
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Post by Pixie on Dec 3, 2021 20:12:09 GMT -5
When I was there, I never saw any drug use in the house; that must have come later. In fact I never saw Duane use Marijuana or any other drugs. Gregg? That was a different situation. My friend and I were usually there in the mornings for breakfast, and Gregg was still out, not having come home from the night before. When we would ask where Gregg was, Duane would invariably say, "He's out surfing." I always suspected he was doing something else, but never said it. Although Gregg could have gotten up and left before we got there. Mother G left for work a little before 9:00, and we would time our arrival until after she left. Then we would go in and have a big breakfast of eggs and bacon that she had bought the day before for the boys. She liked it that her sons were finally eating. Duane liked it because it got her off of his back about not eating, and we liked it because we got a good meal for the day. Everybody was happy. Pixie “Music biopics have been announced and released left and right this year and now we have another one to look forward to. Nick Cassavetes and Sunset Blvd Films are partnering up to bring us a new biopic based on 70s rock legends The Allman Brothers Band, Deadline reports. The film, which doesn't have a title yet, will take viewers back in time and examine the lives of Gregg and Duane Allman from their beginnings of being raised by a single mother and enduring childhood hardships to earning their spot in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1995 and all points in between.“ I told them I would like to play myself as I could lend authenticity to the role. They appreciated the offer, but they need a young Pixie as my time there was back in the 60s—40 or so years ago. I just wouldn't fit the age they need. |
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Post by Ace Midnight on Dec 4, 2021 9:41:25 GMT -5
Pixie - I don't know how else to break this to you, so I will just come right out with it. I double checked the math on the Big Chief tablet and 1970 was 51 years ago.
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Post by Pixie on Dec 4, 2021 11:02:10 GMT -5
Pixie - I don't know how else to break this to you, so I will just come right out with it. I double checked the math on the Big Chief tablet and 1970 was 51 years ago. I know exactly how long ago it was; I just didn't want to come out and say it, hoping everyone would gloss over it. Guess not. I did leave myself some wiggle room by saying, ". . . or so . . . . " Pixie |
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Post by hopefalj on Dec 4, 2021 12:21:15 GMT -5
Pixie - I don't know how else to break this to you, so I will just come right out with it. I double checked the math on the Big Chief tablet and 1970 was 51 years ago. I know exactly how long ago it was; I just didn't want to come out and say it, hoping everyone would gloss over it. Guess not. I did leave myself some wiggle room by saying, ". . . or so . . . . " Pixie I glossed over it. I have far too much respect for my elder’s not to.* * but I carry no such respect for punctuation/grammar queens, so there’s some apostrophe abuse.  |
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