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Post by hank863 on Sept 8, 2022 15:22:50 GMT -5
So...I assume that with "57" offers going out, it's still much too early to read tea leaves on the possibility of FY23 offers...?
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on Sept 8, 2022 15:37:52 GMT -5
Since we are done with the rule of three, and the acceptance or rejection of one offer now has no impact on the next one, why do they need to make calls at all? Couldn’t they just email out all of the offers simultaneously?
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Post by neufenland on Sept 8, 2022 15:56:17 GMT -5
Today is likely a wash at this point. What is the confidence level on tomorrow? 95% or greater?
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Post by dshawn on Sept 8, 2022 16:01:33 GMT -5
“57!” Like the sauce. That seems like a good omen. Maybe they just needed some time after the holiday to ketchup. My money was on today. Wrong! With each passing day…. Hope all are well and holding up through the anticipa-ay-ay-tion.
Some of the older folks will get the reference.
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Post by hillsarealive on Sept 8, 2022 16:11:41 GMT -5
Since we are done with the rule of three, and the acceptance or rejection of one offer now has no impact on the next one, why do they need to make calls at all? Couldn’t they just email out all of the offers simultaneously? Sure, that seems possible to me. I think that in the remote past, the agency sent out at least some ALJ offers by email. I saw this in an old thread. So I doubt there's a hard and fast rule against email offers. The other possibility would be to send out a batch of Teams invites. And then you would meet with the HR person at the allotted time. Not saying any of this seems likely, but I don't think you can discount the possibility that TPTB will find a way to streamline offers now that they don't have to deal with the old constraints. |
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Post by rp on Sept 8, 2022 16:23:46 GMT -5
Unless things are very different, you will get a call with an offer for a specific location (not negotiable; it's what takes so long figuring out which candidates to place in what office). Thereafter, your HOCALJ will reach out to you with office specific information. It used to be that you could not telework your first 12 months but assuming we are still on this extended telework/reentry plan when new judges are onboarded, I gather those rules would apply. The new contract has no 12 month limitation. The re-entry MOU ends on 9/30. I am assuming the new contract will take effect on 10/1. Also there is no longer a 2 hour rule requiring ALJs to live within 2 hours of their ODS. |
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Post by theadjudicator on Sept 8, 2022 17:15:30 GMT -5
Unless things are very different, you will get a call with an offer for a specific location (not negotiable; it's what takes so long figuring out which candidates to place in what office). Thereafter, your HOCALJ will reach out to you with office specific information. It used to be that you could not telework your first 12 months but assuming we are still on this extended telework/reentry plan when new judges are onboarded, I gather those rules would apply. The new contract has no 12 month limitation. The re-entry MOU ends on 9/30. I am assuming the new contract will take effect on 10/1. Also there is no longer a 2 hour rule requiring ALJs to live within 2 hours of their ODS. THIS is good technical information to digest in case you receive an offer LESS desirable than you had envisioned. Just my opinion. |
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 8, 2022 18:00:26 GMT -5
As I understand it, the re-entry MOU and the new collective bargaining agreement are completely independent of one another.
The current re-entry MOU remains in effect until a new one is agreed upon.
Again, as I understand it.
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Post by rp on Sept 8, 2022 20:14:13 GMT -5
As I understand it, the re-entry MOU and the new collective bargaining agreement are completely independent of one another. The current re-entry MOU remains in effect until a new one is agreed upon. Again, as I understand it. Correct. The MOU and Contract are separate. The re-entry MOU still ends 9/30 if I recall correctly. The original contract from 2013 remains in effect until the new CBA is ratified and signed by both sides. A small distinction but still important. Theoretically we could go back to the original contract for a period of time but I am doubting that will happen. I expect the new CBA will go into effect very soon. In any event very similar to the MOU with respect to telework. There was a previous post that had more details. |
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Post by nylawyer on Sept 8, 2022 20:36:51 GMT -5
As I understand it, the re-entry MOU and the new collective bargaining agreement are completely independent of one another. The current re-entry MOU remains in effect until a new one is agreed upon. Again, as I understand it. Correct. The MOU and Contract are separate. The re-entry MOU still ends 9/30 if I recall correctly. The original contract from 2013 remains in effect until the new CBA is ratified and signed by both sides. A small distinction but still important. Theoretically we could go back to the original contract for a period of time but I am doubting that will happen. I expect the new CBA will go into effect very soon. In any event very similar to the MOU with respect to telework. There was a previous post that had more details. I believe the MOU stays in effect beyond 9/30 until a new agreement is reached. The agency was required to give 45 days notice if it did not intend to extend the MOU period, and was required to return to bargaining, during which time the MOU would remain effect. |
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Post by rp on Sept 8, 2022 20:48:34 GMT -5
Correct. The MOU and Contract are separate. The re-entry MOU still ends 9/30 if I recall correctly. The original contract from 2013 remains in effect until the new CBA is ratified and signed by both sides. A small distinction but still important. Theoretically we could go back to the original contract for a period of time but I am doubting that will happen. I expect the new CBA will go into effect very soon. In any event very similar to the MOU with respect to telework. There was a previous post that had more details. I believe the MOU stays in effect beyond 9/30 until a new agreement is reached. The agency was required to give 45 days notice if it did not intend to extend the MOU period, and was required to return to bargaining, during which time the MOU would remain effect. I stand corrected! Thanks! |
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Post by legallybland on Sept 9, 2022 7:53:18 GMT -5
I can confirm calls are going out.
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Post by george1 on Sept 9, 2022 8:00:59 GMT -5
I can confirm calls are going out. For the ones who received a call, was the city offered a preferred location? |
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on Sept 9, 2022 8:37:11 GMT -5
I nailed it!!😭 I just got THE CALL!! So not alphabetically then. 😜 CONGRATULATIONS!!!! |
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Post by ARobeByAnyOtherName on Sept 9, 2022 8:39:08 GMT -5
FYI for non-feds. You’ll see start dates for 10/9 and 10/11. It’s the same start date. Pay periods start on Sunday, so 10/9. But Monday, 10/10 is a holiday, so the actual first day in the office is Tuesday, 10/11.
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Post by Pixie on Sept 9, 2022 9:51:20 GMT -5
I created another thread several days ago for offers/acceptances. Please post there and not here so we can keep them all together. Pixie
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Post by christina on Sept 9, 2022 10:34:25 GMT -5
Any known hires in region 1? Not seeing any there yet.
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Post by ssa on Sept 9, 2022 10:38:42 GMT -5
Any known hires in region 1? Not seeing any there yet. I know of one so far. |
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Post by gazoo on Sept 9, 2022 10:40:24 GMT -5
Not seeing a lot of (any?!) preferred locations so far…
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Post by ToBeOrNotToBeAnALJ... on Sept 9, 2022 11:12:07 GMT -5
No one is getting preferred location so far...
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