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Post by okeydokey on Feb 4, 2009 17:17:01 GMT -5
Whereas new applicants about to be added to the register,
Whereas transfer letters were sent out a couple of months ago (allegedly), and
Whereas SSA will likely be hiring one or two new classes of ALJ's,
I therefore submit it is time for an update on current office openings.
In English: Where will all the new ALJ's go?
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Post by traceb on Feb 6, 2009 9:59:01 GMT -5
I'm particularly interested in Oklahoma.
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Post by nonamouse on Feb 6, 2009 13:14:30 GMT -5
As I said in another thread, don't count on openings at any particular office until the transfer list dance is complete. They must offer to the first ALJ waiting on the transfer list before going to a new hire to fill the position at the existing hearing offices. If a new office is opened, I don't believe the agency follows that rule since there is technically no transfer list to that exact location.
Regarding Oklahoma in particular, OKC has a number of ALJs who are of an age that they could retire anytime. However, I've not heard of any filing for retirement. They got no new ALJs in OKC last year. Tulsa got 1 and McAlester got a new HOCALJ plus a new hire.
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Post by bubba on Feb 6, 2009 14:32:08 GMT -5
Any idea on potential openings in New York, tri-state area?
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Post by jagghagg on Feb 7, 2009 23:36:04 GMT -5
I'd heard that, before the second round, McAlester became a satellite office of Tulsa, thus coming under the leadership of the Tulsa HOCALJ. And that, yes, McAlester got a new ALJ -- an insider, ....but as for Tulsa, instead of a newbie, Tulsa got a transfer in.
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Post by extang on Feb 8, 2009 7:37:49 GMT -5
Current rumor [and I emphasize that at least for me (I am not in headquarters) it is just a rumor] is that ODAR will be going back to the tried and true method that has worked so well in the past: any hearing office (HO) that has an empty ALJ office is going to get a new ALJ, regardless of whether the HO needs or wants another ALJ and in particular, regardless of whether it has the staff to support another ALJ, because when have we ever cared about that, and this method has worked so well in the past.
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Post by jagghagg on Feb 8, 2009 9:10:10 GMT -5
... and this method has worked so well in the past. That's like....uh.....sarcasm, right ?  |
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Post by Pixie on Feb 8, 2009 10:02:08 GMT -5
Believe it or not, but Headquarters does a case flow analysis before deciding where new judges are needed and will be assigned. Of course there has to be room for them, or room to build new offices, before they are assigned to a hearing office. As most offices need new judges, it appears to the observer that the only factor is the availability of office space.
One factor not considered by Headquarters in the assignment of new judges is sufficiency of office staff to support them. While Headquarters decides on the placement of new judges, it leaves the assignment of support staff to the regional offices. This is a topic for another discussion. It is one of those areas that many of you--especially outsiders--wouldn't believe what I would tell you. Pix.
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Post by pm on Feb 8, 2009 11:10:10 GMT -5
So, which offices have room for a new ALJ in region 7 ?
CREVE COEUR, MO
KANSAS CITY, MO
OMAHA, NE
SPRINGFIELD, MO
ST. LOUIS, MO
WEST DES MOINES, IA
WICHITA, KS
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Post by lawandorder on Feb 8, 2009 17:54:42 GMT -5
Any idea on potential openings in New York, tri-state area? I have this same question with regard to SSA. Will there be openings in Region 2? |
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Post by oldjag on Feb 8, 2009 20:04:39 GMT -5
I have heard that there was a judge transfer from Huntington in Region III. I don't know much about Region II. Hey Pix--We have been told that there is going to be a BIG hire of staff and really soon  I just hope it is true. I understand that they plan to fill every office and cubicle. I guess COSS wants to remove any excuses to low production.  By the way, Does anyone know the facts behind this Employee Activity thing in Woodlawn. Evidently COSS has taken on AFGE's sacred cow. This should be interesting.  Well, to all who are waiting for their score, the games are about to begin--good luck to all of you. ;D |
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Post by Pixie on Feb 8, 2009 21:56:14 GMT -5
Hey Pix--We have been told that there is going to be a BIG hire of staff and really soon I just hope it is true. I understand that they plan to fill every office and cubicle. I guess COSS wants to remove any excuses to low production. Yes, I have heard the same thing, but I'm not believing it. They have good intentions, but there is always some problem that doesn't allow them to do what they anticipated. Pix. |
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Post by shadow on Feb 9, 2009 7:08:32 GMT -5
"Well, to all who are waiting for their score, the games are about to begin--good luck to all of you."
Roger that . . .best of luck to everyone in the process. As I think I said last year, someday you will look back at this and laugh....and laugh....and laugh....and then the orderly will come in and give you a shot. ;D Hang in there!
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Post by alj on Feb 9, 2009 12:20:17 GMT -5
Word from Nashville is that they will received 2 or 3 new judges this year. I would say more like one or two when the dust settles. Two on the transfer list, but both will decline this time around.
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Post by nvnatv on Feb 10, 2009 8:38:15 GMT -5
Hi. I'm new to this listserve so please forgive me if the question has been asked and answered before. Assuming I am ranked high enough, and SSA or another agency is interested in me, is there an opportunity to state preferences of geographical location or is it just a matter of declining and hoping for an offer from a place I'd rather be? Second question: What openings do you know of in the Bay Area (i.e., Oakland and SF)?
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Post by chieftain on Feb 10, 2009 9:52:39 GMT -5
If you make it on a certificate from OPM and are considered by an agency, you will be given the chance to whittle down your list of geographic preferences before offers go out. Make sure that the cities on your list are cities to which you are certain you will accept an offer. If you indicate that you will accept a position for a city and then turn it down, you will no longer be considered for that city on later certs. A bunch of previous threads on this board all tell candidates that they decline a position at their peril because another may not come around for awhile. I am sure there are a few more details, but that is the gist of it.
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Post by zero on Feb 10, 2009 10:31:10 GMT -5
If you make it on a certificate from OPM and are considered by an agency, you will be given the chance to whittle down your list of geographic preferences before offers go out. Make sure that the cities on your list are cities to which you are certain you will accept an offer. If you indicate that you will accept a position for a city and then turn it down, you will no longer be considered for that city on later certs. A bunch of previous threads on this board all tell candidates that they decline a position at their peril because another may not come around for awhile. I am sure there are a few more details, but that is the gist of it. That's good to know because I'm having buyer's remorse about one of my geo picks. |
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Post by aljsouth on Feb 10, 2009 12:23:21 GMT -5
If you make it on a certificate from OPM and are considered by an agency, you will be given the chance to whittle down your list of geographic preferences before offers go out. Make sure that the cities on your list are cities to which you are certain you will accept an offer. If you indicate that you will accept a position for a city and then turn it down, you will no longer be considered for that city on later certs. A bunch of previous threads on this board all tell candidates that they decline a position at their peril because another may not come around for awhile. I am sure there are a few more details, but that is the gist of it. This is absolutely correct. I would add that if you turn down an offer during the hiring process, you may not be given another offer during that round of hiring. Because of the complexity of hiring for multiple sites and slots, the agency has some leeway in this and if you are not favored for some particular reason, you may not be offered another site in that hire. I have no real proof of this, just what I have observed. I am sure of exceptions. Bluntly, if I were the agency I would be ticked off at a candidate who turned down a position when they were told on multiple occassions to trim the list to JUST places they would accept. A list of sites with openings and names could be given staff to call and no name could appear as the desinated selectee more than once. This may not happen, but the agency has legitimate reasons to make offers that way. I do know that recently if a candidate turned down an offer then that site did NOT get a judge that round of hiring for that judge slot (may be filled next round and was in my HO). |
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Post by lurker on Feb 10, 2009 17:34:56 GMT -5
Hi. I'm new to this listserve so please forgive me if the question has been asked and answered before. Assuming I am ranked high enough, and SSA or another agency is interested in me, is there an opportunity to state preferences of geographical location or is it just a matter of declining and hoping for an offer from a place I'd rather be? There is no ranking of preferences. When you are sent to SSA on the certificate, before they interview you, you will have an opportunity to eliminate any cities on your list for which you no longer want to be considered. Then you will be interviewed. If you receive an offer it will say "Congratulations! We are offering you a job in X city. Take it or leave it." If you don't take it, that's it for that certificate. |
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Post by privateatty on Feb 10, 2009 22:42:17 GMT -5
Well, well put lurker.
Have you ever had your coffee in Saigon?
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I just hope it is true. I understand that they plan to fill every office and cubicle. I guess COSS wants to remove any excuses to low production. 
