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Post by papresqr on Mar 18, 2014 13:21:40 GMT -5
Just received my email about my appeal rights. So either they are ready to issue a cert, or they are not holding the appeals waiting for the cert. Good luck to all who decide to appeal.
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Post by Benny on Mar 18, 2014 13:28:37 GMT -5
Any words of wisdom or advice for those who may have appealed sucessfully in the past? Or is a low score on the WD render you "dead in the water?"
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Post by moopigsdad on Mar 18, 2014 13:38:01 GMT -5
It's not going to cost you any thing to appeal, except some time. You have nothing to lose if you are not on the register, so I suggest you file your appeal, cross your fingers and you wait for a response. It may be some time prior to receiving a response to your appeal, but all of us have waited so long already, what is a few more weeks or months to those who have to file an appeal.
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Post by FlaTreeFarm on Mar 18, 2014 13:40:50 GMT -5
It's not going to cost you any thing to appeal, except some time. You have nothing to lose if you are not on the register, so I suggest you file your appeal, cross your fingers and you wait for a response. It may be some time prior to receiving a response to your appeal, but all of us have waited so long already, what is a few more weeks or months to those who have to file an appeal. Unless, of course, you are a 10-point vet and can re-apply! I think others have said that would be quicker than waiting for an appeal.
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Post by Benny on Mar 18, 2014 13:42:12 GMT -5
Agreed! However, while there is a right to appeal, that does not mean there is a legitimate basis to do so. It would seem difficult to argue your written demo score is higher that scored. Unless, the actually re-read and re-score them based on a appeal. I suppose you try to argue it was better written that it was given credit for? ??
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Post by papresqr on Mar 18, 2014 14:07:34 GMT -5
I wonder if everyone should be expecting an email soon? In theory the person who got that 96 could be unsatisfied and has appeal rights like everyone else. I'm guessing everybody is getting one. However, if that person who got a 96 appeals, I would worry about his/her mental stability and fitness to be an ALJ.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 18, 2014 14:08:37 GMT -5
I wonder if everyone should be expecting an email soon? In theory the person who got that 96 could be unsatisfied and has appeal rights like everyone else. Everyone who had a score received the same basic info on the appeal email as those who were DQ'd. Here is what I had: "Separate emails with additional information regarding your final numerical rating and appeal rights will follow this message."
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Post by pubdef on Mar 18, 2014 14:11:59 GMT -5
Any words of wisdom or advice for those who may have appealed sucessfully in the past? Or is a low score on the WD render you "dead in the water?" My word of advice, and it's what I give to many of my clients, is to exercise your rights when it can't hurt you. They give us a statutory right to appeal. If you aren't on the register -- appeal. If you are on the register and think you deserve a higher score -- think long and hard about it. Per the email, the only basis you need for an appeal is that you believe the not meeting minimum on the WD was "assigned in error". You just need to give a brief reason why you have that belief. This seems awfully broad and very subjective. I can't think of any reason to not appeal if you are in the same boat as me. I'll be taking my own advice and drafting a brief explanation of why I think my rating was in error.
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 18, 2014 14:14:49 GMT -5
No one has any prior experience with the "you didn't score high enough on the WD (or SI) to make the register" DQ's, or appealing them, because it never worked that way before. You either got DQed for your AR, (application/resume/experience stage) based on experience or bar membership issue, or you just got a low score if your SI or WD weren't great. You appealed a low score, but you didn't know which part of the process to emphasize, so you had to address everything.
You'd have to do some searching here about appeals generally, but no one really knows what the appeals on those two issues will specifically entail.
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Post by gary on Mar 18, 2014 19:03:45 GMT -5
Just got my appeal rights email. I have a score and made the register.
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Post by FlaTreeFarm on Mar 18, 2014 19:12:40 GMT -5
Same here: 7:58 PM
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Post by gary on Mar 18, 2014 19:25:22 GMT -5
It's on application manager too, with proper formatting.
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Post by sxsw on Mar 18, 2014 20:00:42 GMT -5
Mine just came through as well. I received a score and am on the register.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 18, 2014 20:03:06 GMT -5
Ditto. In fact I received 3 copies of the same email! LOL!
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Post by moopigsdad on Mar 18, 2014 20:05:30 GMT -5
Ditto. In fact I received 3 copies of the same email! LOL! So did I. Were they trying to tell us something by sending the same notice three times? LOL!
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 18, 2014 20:08:50 GMT -5
Got mine. There does seem to be an error in it in that when it gets to the category about bar licensure, it talks about candidates who have that issue as well as WD and/or SI issues, as if there is no category for those who were told they ONLY had a licensure issue.
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Post by ok1956 on Mar 18, 2014 20:18:18 GMT -5
I received mine about an hour ago. I got a NOR and am on the register.
Edit: I do not plan to appeal.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2014 20:32:25 GMT -5
Received three identical emails at 7:45 pm EDT. I have a score.
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Post by funkyodar on Mar 18, 2014 20:45:28 GMT -5
Got mine as well. Like observer I thought it was less than clear on the issue of licensure.
Also, upon first reading, thought it was odd they list the actions that can be taken by the panel as including changing eligible to ineligible but didn't say the opposite, ineligible to eligible. But I guess "eligible" means on the register and that possibility is included in the "remand for further" language.
Just out of curiosity, anyone with a score planning to appeal in hope of doing better? As my score is alightly better than I expected and because I'm averse to the risk of it getting lowered, I definitely won't. Haven't read much in regard to people doing that in the past or sucess rates though.
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Post by ginger on Mar 18, 2014 20:57:59 GMT -5
I received five notices of appeal. I got the point.
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