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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 14:42:55 GMT -5
You may be right steve. And I hope so. I'd love to see some of you guys gone from the ssa cert. Given how quickly omha wanted to get the second interviews done, we may well see them offer this week.or next. Prior to ssa. But, I bet the prospective candidates care a whe lot more about timing than omha does. For you it's a life changing decision. For them its a new employee. If they cant get the one they wanted because ssa hired him or her first....it isnt like they wont ever be able to fill the gig. And relo, union or whatever, there are still plenty of existing aljs that would leave ssa for omha. Havent you been reading here? The ssa alj gig now sucks
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Post by moopigsdad on Jun 30, 2014 14:45:57 GMT -5
Funky thanks for the laugh of the day...." Haven't you been reading here? The ssa alj gig now sucks. " Yes, there are a few posters on this Board that might have you believe that to be the case.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 14:48:44 GMT -5
You could be very right, too, MPD.
But remember, omha and other agencies are supposedly the ones that pushed for this new testing process. I would imagine they were gonna.at least get one cert and see what the new process provided regardless of whether they would really prefer experienced candidates.
And as an aside, I have been told that there is a real debate at omha on hiring. One faction really thinks experienced is the way to go, while another likes the idea of newbies that havent already developed bad habits. My guess is they will hire a combination. And whether its more experienced or more newbie will depend on the individual candidates and whether the first choices accept or decline.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 15:04:24 GMT -5
You may be right steve. And I hope so. I'd love to see some of you guys gone from the ssa cert. Given how quickly omha wanted to get the second interviews done, we may well see them offer this week.or next. Prior to ssa. But, I bet the prospective candidates care a whe lot more about timing than omha does. For you it's a life changing decision. For them its a new employee. If they cant get the one they wanted because ssa hired him or her first....it isnt like they wont ever be able to fill the gig. And relo, union or whatever, there are still plenty of existing aljs that would leave ssa for omha. Havent you been reading here? The ssa alj gig now sucks I didn't make the cut to the second OMHA interview, so ODAR remains my only (faint) hope. I think you might underestimate how much an institution cares about hiring new employees. I think it is a very big deal both for OMHA and for ODAR to be hiring new ALJs.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 15:11:45 GMT -5
You may be right steve. And I hope so. I'd love to see some of you guys gone from the ssa cert. Given how quickly omha wanted to get the second interviews done, we may well see them offer this week.or next. Prior to ssa. But, I bet the prospective candidates care a whe lot more about timing than omha does. For you it's a life changing decision. For them its a new employee. If they cant get the one they wanted because ssa hired him or her first....it isnt like they wont ever be able to fill the gig. And relo, union or whatever, there are still plenty of existing aljs that would leave ssa for omha. Havent you been reading here? The ssa alj gig now sucks I didn't make the cut to the second OMHA interview, so ODAR remains my only (faint) hope. I think you might underestimate how much an institution cares about hiring new employees. I think it is a very big deal both for OMHA and for ODAR to be hiring new ALJs. No doubt it is a big deal. That doesn't mean it's not still a employer's market.
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Post by wayne on Jun 30, 2014 15:43:17 GMT -5
All this talk about how OMHA really wants experienced ALJs from SSA instead of a newbie from the Register is starting to make me feel unloved and unwanted. If Funky is right about the experience versus newbie debate at OMHA, I hope the newbie supporters win.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 15:45:32 GMT -5
All this talk about how OMHA really wants experienced ALJs from SSA instead of a newbie from the Register is starting to make me feel unloved and unwanted. If Funky is right about the experience versus newbie debate at OMHA, I hope the newbie supporters win. Relax bud. I expect if you got called for the second interview you are most likely golden. Unless ssa snaps you up first
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Post by 71stretch on Jun 30, 2014 16:06:53 GMT -5
I think they will hire some of both newbies and experienced ALJs.
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Post by moopigsdad on Jun 30, 2014 16:23:08 GMT -5
I think OMHA may indeed hire newbies as they probably do not have enough existing ALJs who want to move to OMHA. So, relax Wayne I think you are golden and will indeed receive an offer.
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Post by privateatty on Jun 30, 2014 16:33:09 GMT -5
OMHA is filling a handful. What I heard through the grapevine is around 5, but things might have changed since then, so don't quote me on it. As for when OMHA is likely to make its offers, if past history is any indication, they will do it a few weeks before ODAR make its offers. Additionally, considering the new CALJ of OMHA used to be the DCALJ of ODAR, it is likely she will send the final hired and accepted OMHA ALJ list over to ODAR as a courtesy so there is no wasted ODAR ALJ slot. Lastly, if anyone gets an offer from OMHA prior to ODAR, I highly recommend you take it. OMHA is a nice agency from what some of my friends who work there told me. And if you decline, there is no guarantee you will get any other ALJ offer. That's my 2 cents worth. Good luck! When I first started this in 2007, the 'drone was offering top shelf advice. I, too, have heard what he has heard. My recollection was that OMHA hired before the calls went out from SSA. Thus, there is considerable precedent for OMHA to strike first.
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Post by chessparent on Jun 30, 2014 17:39:20 GMT -5
I think there is virtually no coordination between agencies. I worked with an ALJ in 2010 who got initially hired at SSA. The ALJ went through training camp, came back to the office, and left for greener pastures at OMHA 3-4 weeks later. I'm not sure the judge heard more than a couple cases in the interim. What a waste of resources.
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Post by privateatty on Jun 30, 2014 17:59:13 GMT -5
I think there is virtually no coordination between agencies. I worked with an ALJ in 2010 who got initially hired at SSA. The ALJ went through training camp, came back to the office, and left for greener pastures at OMHA 3-4 weeks later. I'm not sure the judge heard more than a couple cases in the interim. What a waste of resources. I don't think this story has anything to do with coordination or lack thereof between Agencies. Rather, its the story of an ALJ who stymied the ODAR candidate behind him/her--that hire at ODAR was likely left vacant.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2014 18:14:19 GMT -5
No doubt it is a big deal. That doesn't mean it's not still a employer's market. Man, wouldn't any employer love to have hundreds or thousands of qualified people competing for 90 jobs? That says a lot about the quality of the job we are seeking.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 18:37:02 GMT -5
No doubt it is a big deal. That doesn't mean it's not still a employer's market. Man, wouldn't any employer love to have hundreds or thousands of qualified people competing for 90 jobs? That says a lot about the quality of the job we are seeking. Absolutely.
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Post by hopefalj on Jun 30, 2014 18:37:10 GMT -5
No doubt it is a big deal. That doesn't mean it's not still a employer's market. Man, wouldn't any employer love to have hundreds or thousands of qualified people competing for 90 jobs? That says a lot about the quality of the job we are seeking. A federal legal job is where it's at with the way the legal profession has been going over the last 15-20 years. AUSA jobs routinely get several hundred applicants for a single open position.
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Post by funkyodar on Jun 30, 2014 18:49:00 GMT -5
Man, wouldn't any employer love to have hundreds or thousands of qualified people competing for 90 jobs? That says a lot about the quality of the job we are seeking. A federal legal job is where it's at with the way the legal profession has been going over the last 15-20 years. AUSA jobs routinely get several hundred applicants for a single open position. Agreed. That's why competition has been so stiff for the AA jobs in Baltimore. Ivy league grads lining up to write cases in cubicles. Of course, having that 250k student loan forgiven after 10 years is a nice incentive too. If you land one of these gigs, within 7 years, you will have: Almost a 170k a year salary. In a job where they cant complain if you just put in 40 a week. If you do need more than 40, they have to give you credit time. You can work from home at least one day a week. Great job security. Excellent health, dental, vision and life insurances. 11 paid holidays. A month of paid vacation time each year. Paid sick.and family friendly sick leave. Flexible work schedules. A guaranteed pension. Up to 5% TSP matching. And... You get to do a job that really makes a difference in the lives of people and for the taxpayers. In today's world, that is rich indeed. We are all incredibly lucky and fortunate to even be in the running.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Jun 30, 2014 18:52:47 GMT -5
A federal legal job is where it's at with the way the legal profession has been going over the last 15-20 years. AUSA jobs routinely get several hundred applicants for a single open position. Agreed. That's why competition has been so stiff for the AA jobs in Baltimore. Ivy league grads lining up to write cases in cubicles. Of course, having that 250k student loan forgiven after 10 years is a nice incentive too. If you land one of these gigs, within 7 years, you will have: Almost a 170k a year salary. In a job where they cant complain if you just put in 40 a week. If you do need more than 40, they have to give you credit time. You can work from home at least one day a week. Great job security. Excellent health, dental, vision and life insurances. 11 paid holidays. A month of paid vacation time each year. Paid sick.and family friendly sick leave. Flexible work schedules. A guaranteed pension. Up to 5% TSP matching. And... You get to do a job that really makes a difference in the lives of people and for the taxpayers. In today's world, that is rich indeed. We are all incredibly lucky and fortunate to even be in the running. STOP Funky! Let everyone think it sucks! LOL!
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Post by anotherfed on Jun 30, 2014 20:36:08 GMT -5
It sounds awful ... Dress code ... Dealing with the public ... Heavy case load ... Code of conduct ... Answerable to taxpayers ... No end in sight ... Why would anyone want this job?
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Post by sealaw90 on Jun 30, 2014 20:52:19 GMT -5
It sounds awful ... Dress code ... Dealing with the public ... Heavy case load ... Code of conduct ... Answerable to taxpayers ... No end in sight ... Why would anyone want this job? Dress code? I thought I could wear shorts and a t-shirt under my 'dress code' robe.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Jun 30, 2014 21:29:36 GMT -5
It sounds awful ... Dress code ... Dealing with the public ... Heavy case load ... Code of conduct ... Answerable to taxpayers ... No end in sight ... Why would anyone want this job? Dress code? I thought I could wear shorts and a t-shirt under my 'dress code' robe. You are thinking of the video hearing advantage.
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