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Post by tigger on Aug 18, 2016 12:39:14 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, has anyone ever called EOIR to follow up after an interview? I know that is common in the private sector, and I was just wondering if anyone has done this with EOIR.
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Post by aljwatch on Aug 19, 2016 16:24:34 GMT -5
It seems like the first interviews may be done, but I think there may still be more second interviews. I had a 7-month wait from my first interview until the call for the second interview. Also, from what I have heard, the agency does intend to continue hiring for the next couple of years (barring any budgetary changes or freezes). So, I would guess that a new job announcement will come out in the Fall of 2016 to start another round of hiring in 2017.
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Post by anonbz634 on Aug 20, 2016 12:29:56 GMT -5
aljwatch, for those of us who have already had second round interviews, is breen correct that offers, if any, might be coming in September or October? I'm happy to wait as long as it takes to actually start with EOIR, but we are trying to decide whether to buy a house where we are living now, or wait and buy where we will hopefully be moving.
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Post by anonbz634 on Aug 20, 2016 14:37:13 GMT -5
Thanks - will keep hoping for good news.
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Post by jafo on Aug 20, 2016 15:19:41 GMT -5
aljwatch, for those of us who have already had second round interviews, is breen correct that offers, if any, might be coming in September or October? I'm happy to wait as long as it takes to actually start with EOIR, but we are trying to decide whether to buy a house where we are living now, or wait and buy where we will hopefully be moving. Some (not sure how many) offers were made last week to applicants that had second interviews this summer. All are contingent on background checks. |
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Post by anonbz634 on Aug 20, 2016 16:29:45 GMT -5
Do you know whether more offers are forthcoming for those who had second round interviews this summer, or was that it?
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Post by Ready-Now! on Aug 20, 2016 17:26:31 GMT -5
I understand the majority of hires are those with immigration law background. I note from a post somewhere in this board that on occasion an applicant or two with non-immigration law experience was hired. My question is: Does anyone know what set them apart from those with the experience?
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Post by wacokid on Aug 20, 2016 19:32:40 GMT -5
I understand the majority of hires are those with immigration law background. I note from a post somewhere in this board that on occasion an applicant or two with non-immigration law experience was hired. My question is: Does anyone know what set them apart from those with the experience? I noticed that a couple recent hires without Immigration Court experience were AUSAs. |
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Post by Ready-Now! on Aug 20, 2016 20:24:01 GMT -5
I understand the majority of hires are those with immigration law background. I note from a post somewhere in this board that on occasion an applicant or two with non-immigration law experience was hired. My question is: Does anyone know what set them apart from those with the experience? I noticed that a couple recent hires without Immigration Court experience were AUSAs. Thanks wacokid |
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Post by foghorn on Aug 21, 2016 15:19:50 GMT -5
There is a certain irony, if not hubris, in DOJ's seeming insistence on hiring ALJ's from within (ICE or AUSA's), while the judges who will review any rulings (USDC, Circuit,Supremes) nearly never have ICE experience, many don't have DOJ experience. At the same time they have a crushing backlog, and are treating the hiring process as if it were a full on NSA or other similar agency hire.
Possible they are......taking themselves too seriously---in light of the needs of the system and due process needs of detainees and others?
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Post by anonbz634 on Aug 22, 2016 7:16:02 GMT -5
aljwatch, for those of us who have already had second round interviews, is breen correct that offers, if any, might be coming in September or October? I'm happy to wait as long as it takes to actually start with EOIR, but we are trying to decide whether to buy a house where we are living now, or wait and buy where we will hopefully be moving. Some (not sure how many) offers were made last week to applicants that had second interviews this summer. All are contingent on background checks. Jafo, just wondering whether you know if more offers are forthcoming. Thank you. |
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Post by jafo on Aug 23, 2016 12:34:27 GMT -5
I do feel that the offers will be continuing. It appears that there are going to be training sessions scheduled for September and October - I think most of these future IJs have already received their offers and are awaiting their security creds.
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Post by anonbz634 on Aug 23, 2016 12:45:57 GMT -5
I do feel that the offers will be continuing. It appears that there are going to be training sessions scheduled for September and October - I think most of these future IJs have already received their offers and are awaiting their security creds. Thanks - I'll keep my fingers crossed that an offer comes soon. |
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Post by ladywordsmith on Aug 24, 2016 17:31:42 GMT -5
I understand the majority of hires are those with immigration law background. I note from a post somewhere in this board that on occasion an applicant or two with non-immigration law experience was hired. My question is: Does anyone know what set them apart from those with the experience? Before becoming an ALJ, I interviewed for an IJ position. I had no immigration experience. I honestly believe I only got the interview because I "campaigned". I was living in the DC area at the time, so to show my interest, I called the court and arranged to observe a day's hearings with one of the judges. The judge was very nice and she even let me sit next to her on the bench. It was an interesting experience and I don't think it would have taken me long to get up to speed. At the time, I got the impression they were looking for people that could "hit the ground running" and take on a full load from the beginning, which meant having prior immigration experience. Obviously, I was disappointed at the time but God had something better waiting down the road for me (I did have a lot of experience in administrative law)! Good luck to all those in the process. LWS |
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Post by SaveMeASeat on Aug 24, 2016 22:46:48 GMT -5
I do feel that the offers will be continuing. It appears that there are going to be training sessions scheduled for September and October - I think most of these future IJs have already received their offers and are awaiting their security creds. I also heard of one offer made this week with a start date of November. The start date is delayed to November so that a courtroom could be built out. |
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Post by jafo on Aug 24, 2016 23:42:14 GMT -5
I understand the majority of hires are those with immigration law background. I note from a post somewhere in this board that on occasion an applicant or two with non-immigration law experience was hired. My question is: Does anyone know what set them apart from those with the experience? Before becoming an ALJ, I interviewed for an IJ position. I had no immigration experience. I honestly believe I only got the interview because I "campaigned". I was living in the DC area at the time, so to show my interest, I called the court and arranged to observe a day's hearings with one of the judges. The judge was very nice and she even let me sit next to her on the bench. It was an interesting experience and I don't think it would have taken me long to get up to speed. At the time, I got the impression they were looking for people that could "hit the ground running" and take on a full load from the beginning, which meant having prior immigration experience. Obviously, I was disappointed at the time but God had something better waiting down the road for me (I did have a lot of experience in administrative law)! Good luck to all those in the process. LWS Although I have zero experience with SSA, I'm quite sure that if I had a day of sitting next to an ALJ, coupled with my outstanding legal acumen, I would be able to quickly master a very complex area of law that I have never practiced and other SSA ALJs would welcome me as a valued member of their team on day one. After all, everyone should realize it won't take me too long to fully function at the same level of those that have a great deal of SSA experience. |
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Post by Ready-Now! on Aug 25, 2016 6:47:08 GMT -5
I don't think that was the context of LWS's post at all.
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Post by JudgeRatty on Aug 25, 2016 18:03:40 GMT -5
I don't think that was the context of LWS's post at all. Agree! I have no doubt LWS meant that given the proper training, a little time, someone could catch on and do well. After all, MOST of the ALJs that begin with SSA have ZERO SSA experience and the vast majority do well. Now, are they total experts right out of the gate? Of course not! But clearly one does not have to have expertise in a particular area in order to become an ALJ. There is a certain skill set that an ALJ must have and those are the things that the testing, interviews, and resumes will bring out. I know I do not have the confidence to try to work as a judge in an area in which I have no experience, but my hat is off to those who are able to do so! |
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Post by ba on Aug 25, 2016 18:12:10 GMT -5
Before becoming an ALJ, I interviewed for an IJ position. I had no immigration experience. I honestly believe I only got the interview because I "campaigned". I was living in the DC area at the time, so to show my interest, I called the court and arranged to observe a day's hearings with one of the judges. The judge was very nice and she even let me sit next to her on the bench. It was an interesting experience and I don't think it would have taken me long to get up to speed. At the time, I got the impression they were looking for people that could "hit the ground running" and take on a full load from the beginning, which meant having prior immigration experience. Obviously, I was disappointed at the time but God had something better waiting down the road for me (I did have a lot of experience in administrative law)! Good luck to all those in the process. LWS Although I have zero experience with SSA, I'm quite sure that if I had a day of sitting next to an ALJ, coupled with my outstanding legal acumen, I would be able to quickly master a very complex area of law that I have never practiced and other SSA ALJs would welcome me as a valued member of their team on day one. After all, everyone should realize it won't take me too long to fully function at the same level of those that have a great deal of SSA experience. That painful jab you are feeling is the point. You missed it. |
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Post by JudgeRatty on Aug 25, 2016 18:23:20 GMT -5
Although I have zero experience with SSA, I'm quite sure that if I had a day of sitting next to an ALJ, coupled with my outstanding legal acumen, I would be able to quickly master a very complex area of law that I have never practiced and other SSA ALJs would welcome me as a valued member of their team on day one. After all, everyone should realize it won't take me too long to fully function at the same level of those that have a great deal of SSA experience. That painful jab you are feeling is the point. You missed it. Doh! (insert Homer Simpson palm to head slap here) |
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