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Post by southernfun on May 19, 2016 13:07:24 GMT -5
If they can review 10 per hour for 7 hours per day, they can have them all done in about 4 days. Even if you double the time it takes that is still only eight days. There is no way they can do 10 per hour. They have to score each item on your [ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS IN THE TEXT BOXED WHERE YOU PUT RESUME LIKE ANSWERS]resume. Calculate a percentage of time spent litigating. Fill something out showing how the ligation time was calculated and then do it all again for the newer "admin" law experience. Plus they have a checklist of things such as bar admission dates to check up on people, and they may be temporary workers, which means the sooner they get done, the sooner they are out of a job. Admittedly, I am speculating a lot in the post.
I agree if many of us lawyer types were handed a stack of applications, we could read through easily 10 apps an hour and place them in a yes or no stack, but the process can't be that simple.
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Post by southernfun on May 19, 2016 13:10:39 GMT -5
Did your status change from Pending HR to See Details Tab recently? I'm pretty sure that I didn't put the day of the month that I was sworn into the bar, just the month and year. Will see how that plays out. I think that the "Application Package Status" at the top left-hand side of the Application Manager page has always read "Application Package Status: See Details Tab" -- at least it has since I first started paying attention to it after reading some of these posts! The "Application Processing Status" at the bottom of the page has read "Complete" for several days now -- it had previously said something like "Pending HR Action." For the ten point vets, the last E-mail we received with a status change before being invited to online tested stated this:
"The following changes have been made to this Issue: Changed Status to Closed from Applicant replied"
So my app was "closed" then I was invited to testing.
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Post by sunshinedaydream on May 19, 2016 13:18:18 GMT -5
I had pictured lawyer folks going through these applications and didn't think about listing percentages/exact number of years/hours doing this or that. I did try to tailor my responses to list specifically the qualifying experience using the terms they listed.... I think it would be obvious for a lawyer reviewing my resume and responses to know that I have had "qualifying litigation experience" since passing the bar exam, but not sure what a non-lawyer person from OPM would think.
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Post by blinky on May 19, 2016 13:27:16 GMT -5
Did your status change from Pending HR to See Details Tab recently? I'm pretty sure that I didn't put the day of the month that I was sworn into the bar, just the month and year. Will see how that plays out. I think that the "Application Package Status" at the top left-hand side of the Application Manager page has always read "Application Package Status: See Details Tab" -- at least it has since I first started paying attention to it after reading some of these posts! The "Application Processing Status" at the bottom of the page has read "Complete" for several days now -- it had previously said something like "Pending HR Action." That's interesting, both my top left and bottom "Application Package Status" language has always read Pending HR. |
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Post by southernfun on May 19, 2016 13:34:22 GMT -5
I had pictured lawyer folks going through these applications and didn't think about listing percentages/exact number of years/hours doing this or that. I did try to tailor my responses to list specifically the qualifying experience using the terms they listed.... I think it would be obvious for a lawyer reviewing my resume and responses to know that I have had "qualifying litigation experience" since passing the bar exam, but not sure what a non-lawyer person from OPM would think. You have summed in a nutshell three years of posts and discussion about the first obstacle course of this process. |
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Post by Gaidin on May 19, 2016 13:36:11 GMT -5
Just a reminder they don't look at your resume only your responses to the questions.
The resume is really just for the ultimate interviewing agencies.
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Post by wingnut on May 19, 2016 14:05:23 GMT -5
I'm now changed to AR. The first time I did not have the benefit of the board. But I also lived in blissful ignorance that anything could go wrong.
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Post by sunshinedaydream on May 19, 2016 14:07:14 GMT -5
Just a reminder they don't look at your resume only your responses to the questions. The resume is really just for the ultimate interviewing agencies. Wish I had known! Wonder if they look at the case descriptions at all at this stage... |
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Post by sunshinedaydream on May 19, 2016 14:10:30 GMT -5
I'm now changed to AR. The first time I did not have the benefit of the board. But I also lived in blissful ignorance that anything could go wrong. Ha! Unfortunately, I applied basically in blissful ignorance, but then started reading this board (after the deadline had passed). |
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Post by backtoeden on May 19, 2016 14:46:49 GMT -5
If they can review 10 per hour for 7 hours per day, they can have them all done in about 4 days. Even if you double the time it takes that is still only eight days. There is no way they can do 10 per hour. They have to score each item on your resume. Calculate a percentage of time spent litigating. Fill something out showing how the ligation time was calculated and then do it all again for the newer "admin" law experience. Plus they have a checklist of things such as bar admission dates to check up on people, and they may be temporary workers, which means the sooner they get done, the sooner they are out of a job. Admittedly, I am speculating a lot in the post.
I agree if many of us lawyer types were handed a stack of applications, we could read through easily 10 apps an hour and place them in a yes or no stack, but the process can't be that simple.
Just curious about where you got this information? The JOA clearly says that resumes will not be reviewed at this stage. Also, I have never heard anything about calculations or filling out score sheets. Does this come from someone inside OPM? The JOA says that they will determine qualifications based solely on what was provided in the text boxes for litigation/admin experience, and the applicant needed to provide sufficient information to show that they possess a full seven years of qualifying experience. |
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Post by southernfun on May 19, 2016 14:59:49 GMT -5
There is no way they can do 10 per hour. They have to score each item on your resume. Calculate a percentage of time spent litigating. Fill something out showing how the ligation time was calculated and then do it all again for the newer "admin" law experience. Plus they have a checklist of things such as bar admission dates to check up on people, and they may be temporary workers, which means the sooner they get done, the sooner they are out of a job. Admittedly, I am speculating a lot in the post.
I agree if many of us lawyer types were handed a stack of applications, we could read through easily 10 apps an hour and place them in a yes or no stack, but the process can't be that simple.
Just curious about where you got this information? The JOA clearly says that resumes will not be reviewed at this stage. Also, I have never heard anything about calculations or filling out score sheets. Does this come from someone inside OPM? The JOA says that they will determine qualifications based solely on what was provided in the text boxes for litigation/admin experience, and the applicant needed to provide sufficient information to show that they possess a full seven years of qualifying experience. I apologize. I was using "resume" loosely. I meant the experience you put into the boxes. I went back and fixed it. |
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Post by blinky on May 19, 2016 15:00:42 GMT -5
Are we sure "awaiting results" is good news? My status just switched to "Awaiting results - you will be notified" at both top left and bottom of the AM page. And no, we are not sure of anything. Right? |
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Post by gary on May 19, 2016 15:02:24 GMT -5
Are we sure "awaiting results" is good news? There's always got to be one in every crowd. |
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Post by gary on May 19, 2016 15:03:44 GMT -5
Just a reminder they don't look at your resume only your responses to the questions. The resume is really just for the ultimate interviewing agencies. Who also don't look at it, but instead have you submit an updated resume. Just saying. |
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Post by JenMPR on May 19, 2016 17:18:52 GMT -5
Mine just changed to AR sometime today...here we go again...I'll try not to mess up my WD this time around  |
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Post by everflowing on May 19, 2016 18:15:50 GMT -5
My status changed to awaiting results! I yelped and scared my son :-P
I have a NY SSN #
Good luck, everyone!
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Post by sunshinedaydream on May 19, 2016 18:16:00 GMT -5
Congrats to those whose status has changed! And good luck! Am I the only applicant here stuck with the dreaded "Application Package Status: See Details Tab"?
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Post by jbrky on May 19, 2016 18:32:03 GMT -5
No, I'm still there too. I'd guess people are only posting after getting the switch to awaiting results as its believed to be a good sign. You're not alone.
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Post by sunshinedaydream on May 19, 2016 18:35:21 GMT -5
No, I'm still there too. I'd guess people are only posting after getting the switch to awaiting results as its believed to be a good sign. You're not alone. Thanks for posting! |
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Post by auroraborealis on May 19, 2016 18:37:22 GMT -5
Also awaiting results. Back on the roller coaster, yippoopeeee!
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