wendy
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Post by wendy on Jun 26, 2018 3:51:23 GMT -5
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Post by jimmyjiggles on Jun 26, 2018 8:39:55 GMT -5
gary my comment was predicated upon the previous post that the temp jobs were posted on USA Jobs. If the previous post is inaccurate, and if the tests are graded by retired ALJs instead of $15 temps, then all is good. Normally, I disagreeumption is that posts here don't need to be fact-checked. I hope someone has the time to either find the job posting to confirm or deny, or they can find some explanation about who grades the tests. I’ll find it when I get to a real computer. I can’t recall what the exact job title was. “Grader” is my term (I think), so I can’t tell you what exactly they were doing, but I am very sure it was a gs 4 job. So don’t abandon all hope yet. Well mea culpa folks, I could not find it. I swear it was real and I’m not crazy (is what crazy people say, so.....?)
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Post by acttwo on Jul 6, 2018 10:34:29 GMT -5
WAG on the status changes and the NOR release: July 20 and August 5. 8. Whereby, we can expect that the 62 days between the LDT and the Status Change and the 81 days between the LDT and the NOR release date should be reduced to less than 65% of the 2016 app gap. So, we are looking at the status change posting in fewer than 40 days and the NORs being released in fewer than 52 days.9. Therefor, based on the 65% reduction, we should see status changes by July 30 and NORs released by August 11, but including increased efficiencies, it should be an even shorter period. Oh please say nobody is actually monitoring status changes. It is the path to madness.
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Post by gary on Jul 6, 2018 10:38:30 GMT -5
WAG on the status changes and the NOR release: July 20 and August 5. 8. Whereby, we can expect that the 62 days between the LDT and the Status Change and the 81 days between the LDT and the NOR release date should be reduced to less than 65% of the 2016 app gap. So, we are looking at the status change posting in fewer than 40 days and the NORs being released in fewer than 52 days.9. Therefor, based on the 65% reduction, we should see status changes by July 30 and NORs released by August 11, but including increased efficiencies, it should be an even shorter period. Oh please say nobody is actually monitoring status changes. It is the path to madness. Of. Course. They. Are.
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Post by acttwo on Jul 6, 2018 17:49:38 GMT -5
Oh please say nobody is actually monitoring status changes. It is the path to madness. Of. Course. They. Are. <sigh>
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Post by Pixie on Jul 6, 2018 18:05:35 GMT -5
I need to bump the thread that cannot be mentioned outside of its own thread so people really have something to obsess about. If they would read the first page, that is all they would need. But no, they always start at the last page and obsess away. Pixie
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Post by foghorn on Jul 6, 2018 18:10:23 GMT -5
So is the after shave/cologne Obsession the scent of dreams going to sleep?
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Post by JudgeKnot on Jul 11, 2018 8:08:52 GMT -5
The initial thread has been edited to include an update prompted by yesterday's EO. That's not how it was supposed to play out when I started this.
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Post by Pixie on Jul 11, 2018 8:11:45 GMT -5
Sorta renders the Timeline moot.
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Post by JudgeKnot on Jul 11, 2018 8:15:08 GMT -5
Indeed it does. I hated having to put that in the update - it just seemed so cold and final.
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Post by lawlizard on Jul 23, 2018 23:04:31 GMT -5
So will people who just tested/interviewed get ANY notification? I understand that we won’t get NORs....but I’m sensing that it’s just sort of an abandonment of the process and applicants get no closer at all -not even a letter. Is that correct?
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Post by SPN Lifer on Jul 23, 2018 23:48:00 GMT -5
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Post by christina on Jul 24, 2018 7:13:54 GMT -5
Or more concisely stated for timeline anyway: july 10, 2018 😵😳😠
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Post by Pixie on Jul 24, 2018 7:31:46 GMT -5
So will people who just tested/interviewed get ANY notification? I understand that we won’t get NORs....but I’m sensing that it’s just sort of an abandonment of the process and applicants get no closer at all -not even a letter. Is that correct? Eventually you will get something, but who knows when that will be. In my opinion this particular EO is violative of enough federal statutes to be tied up in litigation for several years. The temporary result will be injunctive relief to forestall hiring. Who knows what the permanent solution will be? Pixie
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Post by foghorn on Jul 24, 2018 12:01:39 GMT -5
It has the result that some have desired--reducing the federal decision makers while the can gets kicked down the road by litigation. The question may be will an injunction halt hiring by another process in the meantime? Or will those on the list who have NOR's be processes through as if the EO never happened?
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Post by JudgeKnot on Jul 24, 2018 12:24:11 GMT -5
I don't see anyone progressing. TPTBs have conflicting mandates, and they don't have a Commissioner as I recall. There's no urgent need for hiring more ALJs. What's the upside for someone in management to hire if there isn't a need, and if they'll be challenged through litigation for whatever process they use to bring someone in (or move someone up)?
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Post by Prrple on Jul 24, 2018 13:06:01 GMT -5
They may be taking their time on notices because terminating the process and terminating the register trigger review. According to the 5th Cir opinion in the DAPA litigation, "the APA authorizes judicial review of 'final agency action for which there is no other adequate remedy in a court,' 5 U.S.C. § 704.38" United States v. Texas, 787 F.3d 733, 751-52 (5th Cir. 2015) aff'd 579 U.S. ___ (2016)
The memo saying the agency will terminate the register is not the same as a final agency action terminating it.
See also Lujan v. Nat'l Wildlife Fed'n, 497 U.S. 871, 882, 110 S.Ct. 3177, 111 L.Ed.2d 695 (1990)
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Post by SPN Lifer on Aug 29, 2018 8:55:27 GMT -5
Let us hope that a NOR release date will be the next entry on the chart, regardless of how “meaningless” it may or may not ultimately end up being.
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Post by lawyeredbylaws on Aug 29, 2018 9:25:02 GMT -5
Could SSA still use scores from ALJ test even if register doesn't technically exist? Seems like that would be one way for SSA to still be able to hire the 100 or judges within the next few months.
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Post by mamaru on Aug 29, 2018 9:40:59 GMT -5
Could SSA still use scores from ALJ test even if register doesn't technically exist? Seems like that would be one way for SSA to still be able to hire the 100 or judges within the next few months. As I recall, Pixie has already reminded us that the last thing SSA wants is to use the OPM scores as a basis for selecting ALJs.
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