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Post by jlawj on Oct 29, 2024 10:12:21 GMT -5
Application numbers.
Just wondering (hopefully without violating any rules here) if anyone knows how many applicants there were this time around?
If I remember, in 2016 it was about 5,000 and another 2,500 the following year.
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Post by neufenland on Oct 29, 2024 10:26:11 GMT -5
Application numbers. Just wondering (hopefully without violating any rules here) if anyone knows how many applicants there were this time around? If I remember, in 2016 it was about 5,000 and another 2,500 the following year. Wowsers. Big numbers.
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Post by Nikanor on Nov 4, 2024 11:44:37 GMT -5
Thank you for the recent heads-up about the job opening. Unfortunately I missed it. I'm wondering if there's a way to set up an alert so I can be notified as soon as future job postings appear.
Could you advise on how to set up alerts for future postings, or let me know if there’s an option to receive notifications directly?
Thanks again for all the guidance and support!
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Post by aa7 on Nov 4, 2024 12:59:04 GMT -5
Thank you for the recent heads-up about the job opening. Unfortunately I missed it. I'm wondering if there's a way to set up an alert so I can be notified as soon as future job postings appear.
Could you advise on how to set up alerts for future postings, or let me know if there’s an option to receive notifications directly?
Thanks again for all the guidance and support! You can set up alerts in USAjobs.
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Post by dendrobates on Nov 5, 2024 9:59:35 GMT -5
Any guesses when email will go out? Looks like for posting in April 2022 it was around June 8, 2022.
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Post by tsatty on Nov 5, 2024 10:27:26 GMT -5
Mid-February. Not much gets done from Thanksgiving though the end of the year due to lots of people w use-or-lose leave.
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Post by trp888 on Nov 5, 2024 10:29:58 GMT -5
Any guesses when email will go out? Looks like for posting in April 2022 it was around June 8, 2022. Check out pages 8-9 of this thread, this was asked and discussed. Summary is, no one has any idea 😆
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Post by neufenland on Nov 5, 2024 11:51:49 GMT -5
Mid-February. Not much gets done from Thanksgiving though the end of the year due to lots of people w use-or-lose leave. Maybe not. Depends on what happens over the next couple of days… They can be quick when they want to be quick.
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Post by trp888 on Nov 6, 2024 8:39:03 GMT -5
Mid-February. Not much gets done from Thanksgiving though the end of the year due to lots of people w use-or-lose leave. Maybe not. Depends on what happens over the next couple of days… They can be quick when they want to be quick. Big bet that as of today, they will be expediting this process out of fear of future budget cuts amongst other possible changes.
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Post by anciano on Nov 6, 2024 8:51:39 GMT -5
Traditionally, when there was a change of Administration, there was an immediate hiring freeze as January 20. The length and scope of the freeze did vary, but the possibility that what is planned for the Agency by the end of calendar year 2024, will need to happen by then, or all bets are off. Also, the implementation and impact of schedule "F" is also an unknown factor and the future of telework, as we know it, is a big question. Stay tuned, the next ten weeks could be very interesting.
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Post by jimmy224 on Nov 6, 2024 11:18:41 GMT -5
Would the Aljs get reclassified into schedule f? What about decision writers (is there a cutoff of who gets moved into schedule f and who stays status quo?
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Post by neufenland on Nov 6, 2024 11:20:00 GMT -5
Traditionally, when there was a change of Administration, there was an immediate hiring freeze as January 20. The length and scope of the freeze did vary, but the possibility that what is planned for the Agency by the end of calendar year 2024, will need to happen by then, or all bets are off. Also, the implementation and impact of schedule "F" is also an unknown factor and the future of telework, as we know it, is a big question. Stay tuned, the next ten weeks could be very interesting. Yeah, there will almost assuredly be a hiring freeze once the new admin comes in. As to whether that makes SSA want to get new ALJs onboard or not in the lame duck is an open question, I guess. If what many of you say about the immediate need not really being there, this last hiring announcement might just fade away. Time will tell.
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Post by neufenland on Nov 6, 2024 11:22:30 GMT -5
Would the Aljs get reclassified into schedule f? What about decision writers (is there a cutoff of who gets moved into schedule f and who stays status quo? ALJs can’t be Schedule F under current law. Their protections are statutory. At least for now, that is (being that the removal protections are likely to end up back in front of the Supreme Court). As far as DWs? Your guess is as good as any.
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Post by ijapp on Nov 6, 2024 11:43:22 GMT -5
I didn't apply this time around, but Trump cost me a lot of time and money last time when I flew to Falls Church and did all the testing and interviews and then he canceled the whole process shortly thereafter.
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Post by jimmy224 on Nov 6, 2024 11:47:05 GMT -5
Would the Aljs get reclassified into schedule f? What about decision writers (is there a cutoff of who gets moved into schedule f and who stays status quo? ALJs can’t be Schedule F under current law. Their protections are statutory. At least for now, that is (being that the removal protections are likely to end up back in front of the Supreme Court). As far as DWs? Your guess is as good as any. I guess that is the question. The alj cannot be reassigned into a new position? I would think the decision writer and other employees have statutory civil service protection as well, but then they are trying to reassign you into a new schedule f position (so terminated from old position with all the protections and then reassigned into new position
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Post by neufenland on Nov 6, 2024 12:08:32 GMT -5
ALJs can’t be Schedule F under current law. Their protections are statutory. At least for now, that is (being that the removal protections are likely to end up back in front of the Supreme Court). As far as DWs? Your guess is as good as any. I guess that is the question. The alj cannot be reassigned into a new position? I would think the decision writer and other employees have statutory civil service protection as well, but then they are trying to reassign you into a new schedule f position (so terminated from old position with all the protections and then reassigned into new position Regular feds have statutory protections, yes, but the interpretation is open to more wiggle room based on what the employee does. OPM has regs that would favor civil servants not going into Schedule F, but regs can be changed fairly easily (likely will change, I imagine, with litigation to follow). The APA is much clearer on ALJs, as the position is expressly given statutory removal protections.
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Post by tsatty on Nov 6, 2024 12:13:28 GMT -5
Sch F—under the merit system rules, employees who do “policy” can be exempted from the merit system protections. Hence, the government has Sch C to the excepted service; Sch C is for “policy”-related employees who can be hired and fired by the President at will. That’s how the President can put hundreds of his or her own people in various positions.
There are various career employees who have “policy” jobs. They are supposed to be politically neutral. They help do research and help draft policy language. Currently, they generally have merit system protections, but, by statute, can be exempted from the merit system. Those are the people subject to Sch F.
ALJs are already exempt from the merit system rules by statute.
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Post by coop on Nov 6, 2024 15:22:06 GMT -5
I didn't apply this time around, but Trump cost me a lot of time and money last time when I flew to Falls Church and did all the testing and interviews and then he canceled the whole process shortly thereafter. Same here. And the smart money says Trump 47 will be cleaning house as a general matter as far as the administrative state goes. That EO was child's play. So making a major career (and geographical) move to be a new ALJ right now - yuuuuge risk. The downside just went up bigly.
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Post by shmi1979 on Nov 6, 2024 19:55:28 GMT -5
Wasn't going to apply, but did anyway. I'm out of the Agency but was in for 12 years. Considering withdrawing my app if that's a thing. I'd forgotten what a toll depending on the whims of the administration for my livelihood took on me. And I'm sure no one here would weep if I took myself out of the running.
Anyone else second guessing?
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Post by caroline on Nov 7, 2024 10:02:53 GMT -5
I didn't apply this time around, but Trump cost me a lot of time and money last time when I flew to Falls Church and did all the testing and interviews and then he canceled the whole process shortly thereafter. Same here. And the smart money says Trump 47 will be cleaning house as a general matter as far as the administrative state goes. That EO was child's play. So making a major career (and geographical) move to be a new ALJ right now - yuuuuge risk. The downside just went up bigly. Any thoughts on whether the APA (or whatever is left of it) will simply be repealed in 2025 rather than fought over at the Sup Ct.?
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