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Post by neufenland on Nov 7, 2024 10:36:00 GMT -5
Same here. And the smart money says Trump 47 will be cleaning house as a general matter as far as the administrative state goes. That EO was child's play. So making a major career (and geographical) move to be a new ALJ right now - yuuuuge risk. The downside just went up bigly. Any thoughts on whether the APA (or whatever is left of it) will simply be repealed in 2025 rather than fought over at the Sup Ct.? It would require the Senate to abolish the filibuster. Assuming that happened and there was appetite for it, it would certainly be chaos. I don’t think anyone, including those in the regulated communities, wants that. That said, I’m out of the prediction business. |
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Post by nylawyer on Nov 7, 2024 17:45:52 GMT -5
Same here. And the smart money says Trump 47 will be cleaning house as a general matter as far as the administrative state goes. That EO was child's play. So making a major career (and geographical) move to be a new ALJ right now - yuuuuge risk. The downside just went up bigly. Any thoughts on whether the APA (or whatever is left of it) will simply be repealed in 2025 rather than fought over at the Sup Ct.? No chance. I say that with certainty because of the "in 2025 qualifier". Could it get significantly amended or repealed or replaced? Perhaps, but that will take time and it's not like it's on the top of the list. I'm a little uneasy about what happens when the next challenge hits the Supreme Court and the Justice Dept chooses not to defend. But there would be so much chaos if the current system was just wiped out. |
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Post by amc on Nov 8, 2024 9:50:08 GMT -5
For what it is worth, the following are the available transfer list offices. More could be added. To the extent that transfers are granted to a transferee, the losing office may become available for a new hire. If transferees do not accept an offer to an office on this list, then it most likely will be offered to the new hires. Good luck. Region 2 • Buffalo, NY • Jamaica, NY (Queens Hearing Office) • Rochester, NY • San Juan, PR • Syracuse, NY Region 3 • Charleston, WV • Huntington, WV • Johnstown, PA • Morgantown, WV Region 4 • Memphis, TN • Middlesboro, KY • Montgomery, AL • Paducah, KY Region 5 • Cincinnati, OH • Columbus, OH • Dayton, OH • Fort Wayne, IN • Livonia, MI • Peoria, IL • Toledo, OH • Valparaiso, IN Region 6 • Dallas, TX (Dallas North Hearing Office) • Little Rock, AR • Tulsa, OK Region 7 • Springfield, MO • Topeka, KS • Wichita, KS Region 8 • Billings, MT • Boise, ID • Fargo, ND • Sioux Falls, SD Region 9 • Fresno, CA • Las Vegas, NV • Long Beach, CA • Phoenix, AZ (Phoenix North Hearing Office) • Reno, NV • Santa Barbara, CA • Stockton, CA I applied for the first time with the October job post, and I only listed two spots....neither of which is on this list. I'm guessing that's not a great sign for my prospects. However, Memphis is doable depending on remote work options. Do you know of a way to add additional cities to your application during either the pre-interview or interview phase? |
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Post by rmspringfield on Nov 8, 2024 11:19:27 GMT -5
For what it is worth, the following are the available transfer list offices. More could be added. To the extent that transfers are granted to a transferee, the losing office may become available for a new hire. If transferees do not accept an offer to an office on this list, then it most likely will be offered to the new hires. Good luck. Region 2 • Buffalo, NY • Jamaica, NY (Queens Hearing Office) • Rochester, NY • San Juan, PR • Syracuse, NY Region 3 • Charleston, WV • Huntington, WV • Johnstown, PA • Morgantown, WV Region 4 • Memphis, TN • Middlesboro, KY • Montgomery, AL • Paducah, KY Region 5 • Cincinnati, OH • Columbus, OH • Dayton, OH • Fort Wayne, IN • Livonia, MI • Peoria, IL • Toledo, OH • Valparaiso, IN Region 6 • Dallas, TX (Dallas North Hearing Office) • Little Rock, AR • Tulsa, OK Region 7 • Springfield, MO • Topeka, KS • Wichita, KS Region 8 • Billings, MT • Boise, ID • Fargo, ND • Sioux Falls, SD Region 9 • Fresno, CA • Las Vegas, NV • Long Beach, CA • Phoenix, AZ (Phoenix North Hearing Office) • Reno, NV • Santa Barbara, CA • Stockton, CA I applied for the first time with the October job post, and I only listed two spots....neither of which is on this list. I'm guessing that's not a great sign for my prospects. However, Memphis is doable depending on remote work options. Do you know of a way to add additional cities to your application during either the pre-interview or interview phase? Not an option. Once it’s submitted it’s done. Keep in mind the transfer list doesn’t correlate to which locations get new hires. 2 of my preferred locations were on the transfer list before the last hire. My 1st preference didn’t get any new ALJs. Someone else was hired for my 2nd preference and I wound up still somewhere else. All of that is to say. It’s done. Now you wait to see if you get an interview. |
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Post by balzac on Nov 8, 2024 15:14:46 GMT -5
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but all of these questions from ALJ applicants about office locations, ALJ telework, life as an ALJ, etc. seem very premature (although I know this is a discussion board and people need something to talk about).
If I'm a high school student applying to Yale, I am just hoping I get in. That's it. I'll worry about the meal plan and size of the dorms and the New Haven pizza scene if and when I make the cut.
It would appear that thousands of people, including seemingly the majority of decision writers, GSs, HODs, and RO attorneys, applied for literally tens of openings. My only point is that nothing really matters until the first emails go out- everything else is fantasy.
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Post by neufenland on Nov 8, 2024 15:28:54 GMT -5
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but all of these questions from ALJ applicants about office locations, ALJ telework, life as an ALJ, etc. seem very premature (although I know this is a discussion board and people need something to talk about). If I'm a high school student applying to Yale, I am just hoping I get in. That's it. I'll worry about the meal plan and size of the dorms and the New Haven pizza scene if and when I make the cut. It would appear that thousands of people, including seemingly the majority of decision writers, GSs, HODs, and RO attorneys, applied for literally tens of openings. My only point is that nothing really matters until the first emails go out- everything else is fantasy. I don’t eat Wheaties, but you’re free to urinate in my Count Chocula… |
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Post by aa7 on Nov 8, 2024 15:46:32 GMT -5
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but all of these questions from ALJ applicants about office locations, ALJ telework, life as an ALJ, etc. seem very premature (although I know this is a discussion board and people need something to talk about). If I'm a high school student applying to Yale, I am just hoping I get in. That's it. I'll worry about the meal plan and size of the dorms and the New Haven pizza scene if and when I make the cut. It would appear that thousands of people, including seemingly the majority of decision writers, GSs, HODs, and RO attorneys, applied for literally tens of openings. My only point is that nothing really matters until the first emails go out- everything else is fantasy. I dont know about this take. As someone who has been applying since 2017, these are the details that need to be worked through to see if you actually want the job and which offices you are willing to take. There's no time to dither when you get the call. Also, when testing was in DC, it was very important to consider if the office location or work/life balance was doable before spending all that money to go test. Why spend the money and time on that Yale app and campus visit if you realize the size of the dorm is unacceptable. Each time I have applied, my offices put down were different because of life considerations and considerations of how good was this job really was that would it be worth uprooting my life. Info on this board has helped make those determinations. Best of luck! |
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Post by balzac on Nov 8, 2024 15:59:12 GMT -5
Maybe I'm too pessimistic, but all of these questions from ALJ applicants about office locations, ALJ telework, life as an ALJ, etc. seem very premature (although I know this is a discussion board and people need something to talk about). If I'm a high school student applying to Yale, I am just hoping I get in. That's it. I'll worry about the meal plan and size of the dorms and the New Haven pizza scene if and when I make the cut. It would appear that thousands of people, including seemingly the majority of decision writers, GSs, HODs, and RO attorneys, applied for literally tens of openings. My only point is that nothing really matters until the first emails go out- everything else is fantasy. I dont know about this take. As someone who has been applying since 2017, these are the details that need to be worked through to see if you actually want the job and which offices you are willing to take. There's no time to dither when you get the call. Also, when testing was in DC, it was very important to consider if the office location or work/life balance was doable before spending all that money to go test. Why spend the money and time on that Yale app and campus visit if you realize the size of the dorm is unacceptable. Each time I have applied, my offices put down were different because of life considerations and considerations of how good was this job really was that would it be worth uprooting my life. Info on this board has helped make those determinations. Best of luck! Yeah, those are all very fair points. I'm viewing this more through the lens of a longtime and admittedly disillusioned OHO employee who would take the ALJ opportunity anywhere and anytime. For folks with a more varied and developed resume, it's likely a more difficult calculus. And so forth. |
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Post by terp on Nov 9, 2024 13:28:33 GMT -5
I did a search today and don't see any SSA ALJ listings on USAJOBS. Is the SSA even taking new applications for ALJ's? Is this something that will only be known until 47's swearing in?
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Post by gomez2022 on Nov 9, 2024 17:37:10 GMT -5
I think this SSA ALJ hiring is up in the air with the looming change in administration. My guess is, if no interviews are set in the next week or so, there will be a delay till after January for the agency to decide whether it will be proceeding with hiring or doing a freeze as in 2017. I think this applies not just to SSA but all agencies with pending hiring, including EOIR and DOL. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to hire new judges right now if it is uncertain what the new administration agenda will be for each agency.
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Post by neufenland on Nov 9, 2024 19:57:31 GMT -5
I think this SSA ALJ hiring is up in the air with the looming change in administration. My guess is, if no interviews are set in the next week or so, there will be a delay till after January for the agency to decide whether it will be proceeding with hiring or doing a freeze as in 2017. I think this applies not just to SSA but all agencies with pending hiring, including EOIR and DOL. Doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to hire new judges right now if it is uncertain what the new administration agenda will be for each agency. I would guess EOIR and DOL can get their people onboarded before the change in administration (interviews have already occurred/are occurring for the pending announcements). While there’s likely to be a hiring freeze in the first months of the new administration, eventually, there will be a restored hiring process. Quite frankly, I’d imagine EOIR, especially, is going to need some new people in the next couple of years (and a GOP Congress would be more willing to fund it). SSA has to soul-search and see if they want to go forward with interviews or not. If so, they have to decide in the next couple of weeks, I agree. |
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Post by neufenland on Nov 9, 2024 20:01:28 GMT -5
I did a search today and don't see any SSA ALJ listings on USAJOBS. Is the SSA even taking new applications for ALJ's? Is this something that will only be known until 47's swearing in? There was an announcement last month. It was open for a few days. No interviews have yet been scheduled. |
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Post by terp on Nov 11, 2024 9:33:58 GMT -5
I did a search today and don't see any SSA ALJ listings on USAJOBS. Is the SSA even taking new applications for ALJ's? Is this something that will only be known until 47's swearing in? There was an announcement last month. It was open for a few days. No interviews have yet been scheduled. Thanks. I missed it. |
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Post by manunited77 on Nov 11, 2024 12:35:22 GMT -5
My guess is no hiring of ALJS for a longtime. I think there will be a combination of big budget cuts and a hiring freeze. I don't think that subsides for at least 2-3 years. They will probably have to just start this whole process over at that point.
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Post by Top Tier on Nov 11, 2024 16:09:36 GMT -5
My guess is no hiring of ALJS for a longtime. I think there will be a combination of big budget cuts and a hiring freeze. I don't think that subsides for at least 2-3 years. They will probably have to just start this whole process over at that point. Agreed. They'd better hire a couple hundred now before Jan 20th. Forecast is 100% for lengthy hiring freeze and attrition has already left a mark. Wonder how many will retire at the end of December considering recent events. More than usual? |
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Post by Pixie on Nov 11, 2024 17:58:29 GMT -5
My guess is no hiring of ALJS for a longtime. I think there will be a combination of big budget cuts and a hiring freeze. I don't think that subsides for at least 2-3 years. They will probably have to just start this whole process over at that point. Agreed. They'd better hire a couple hundred now before Jan 20th. Forecast is 100% for lengthy hiring freeze and attrition has already left a mark. Wonder how many will retire at the end of December considering recent events. More than usual? Yes, they had better get the hiring done now before it is too late. No, there won't be more retirements than usual in December, although December is the best month in which to retire. Pixie |
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Post by johnthornton on Nov 12, 2024 7:28:32 GMT -5
Agreed. They'd better hire a couple hundred now before Jan 20th. Forecast is 100% for lengthy hiring freeze and attrition has already left a mark. Wonder how many will retire at the end of December considering recent events. More than usual? Yes, they had better get the hiring done now before it is too late. No, there won't be more retirements than usual in December, although December is the best month in which to retire. Pixie Why do you think there won't be more retirements than usual in December? I already see the current Biden management tightening the screws on ALJ independence. Why wouldn't the judges expect the tightening to get worse and decide to retire? Some of us are worried that management will decide to ignore the current AALJ collective bargaining agreement and make the union grieve everything. |
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Post by Pixie on Nov 12, 2024 8:43:17 GMT -5
Yes, they had better get the hiring done now before it is too late. No, there won't be more retirements than usual in December, although December is the best month in which to retire. Pixie Why do you think there won't be more retirements than usual in December? I already see the current Biden management tightening the screws on ALJ independence. Why wouldn't the judges expect the tightening to get worse and decide to retire? Some of us are worried that management will decide to ignore the current AALJ collective bargaining agreement and make the union grieve everything. "Worried About" doesn't equate to giving up a good job and moving into retirement. Pixie |
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Post by johnthornton on Nov 12, 2024 8:46:27 GMT -5
Why do you think there won't be more retirements than usual in December? I already see the current Biden management tightening the screws on ALJ independence. Why wouldn't the judges expect the tightening to get worse and decide to retire? Some of us are worried that management will decide to ignore the current AALJ collective bargaining agreement and make the union grieve everything. "Worried About" doesn't equate to giving up a good job and moving into retirement. Pixie But for those of us who can retire but are still working because we enjoy the job, taking away our decisional independence and forcing us back into the office, is a strong motivator to retire. |
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Post by dwesq on Nov 12, 2024 9:03:52 GMT -5
IIRC, the funding for this round of ALJ hiring came from anomaly funds in the most recent CR. Doesn't that mean the agency has to hire regardless of upcoming budget cuts?
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