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Post by Pixie on Dec 26, 2008 13:59:10 GMT -5
Good analysis Judicature. That was my initial impression. Then I remembered OPM is in charge. Pix.
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Post by hooligan on Dec 26, 2008 21:34:25 GMT -5
FYI - info from the AALJ newsletter:
Judge Griswold advised the committee that OPM is preparing a new register at the request of the Agency, which is supposed to be issued by March 2009. The Agency plans to hire at least 123 new judges and train them in the fourth quarter of the fiscal year. Structured interviews (which the Agency has been involved in) will be completed by February 13th, after which a certificate will be provided. Private contractors are handling the background checks. Offers will go out in June; it is likely that three classes will be held in August and three in September. The Agency would like to keep its Judge staff at 1250; attrition of 60 Judges per year is normal. ODAR has been approved for one-to-one replacement and expects to add 140 support staff this year. More staff cannot be added until we are out from under the continuing resolution.
Transfer letters in anticipation of the new hiring will go out in December and January.
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Post by flannery on Dec 27, 2008 10:18:33 GMT -5
Hooligan, thanks for this very useful information as to the score timeline. Maybe my guess as to 3-15 is not so far off the mark after all...
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Post by gadourylaw on Dec 27, 2008 11:16:19 GMT -5
Thank you for the information Hooligan and Happy Holidays!
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Post by vietnamveteran on Dec 27, 2008 12:24:58 GMT -5
I will put a bid in for March 8th.
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Post by privateatty on Dec 28, 2008 18:38:43 GMT -5
Thanks, Hooligan for the best info yet (even if it was taken from AALJ). With a small cert and 123, from what I'm hearing we could see close to the 148 or so that were hired in 2008. Hope springs eternal...
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Post by atlantis on Dec 29, 2008 21:30:28 GMT -5
solicitation for interviewers and notetakers for April/May 2009 interviews at ODAR
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Post by samone on Dec 30, 2008 11:38:19 GMT -5
atlantis, is this a guess?
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Post by nonamouse on Dec 30, 2008 12:37:28 GMT -5
atlantis, is this a guess? No guess. The email just came out this week soliciting interest from agency people to assist in taking notes for the SSA interviews. The same thing was done last year. They must tell the people well in advance when they plan to hold the interviews or the volunteers could not assess their availability.
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Post by samone on Jan 5, 2009 12:01:31 GMT -5
March 1st.
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Post by samone on Jan 5, 2009 14:26:19 GMT -5
Anyone heard word on whether there will be a small hire before the new register?
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Post by zero on Jan 6, 2009 14:28:36 GMT -5
FYI - info from the AALJ newsletter: Judge Griswold advised the committee that OPM is preparing a new register at the request of the Agency, which is supposed to be issued by March 2009. The Agency plans to hire at least 123 new judges and train them in the fourth quarter of the fiscal year. Structured interviews (which the Agency has been involved in) will be completed by February 13th, after which a certificate will be provided. Private contractors are handling the background checks. Offers will go out in June; it is likely that three classes will be held in August and three in September. The Agency would like to keep its Judge staff at 1250; attrition of 60 Judges per year is normal. ODAR has been approved for one-to-one replacement and expects to add 140 support staff this year. More staff cannot be added until we are out from under the continuing resolution. Transfer letters in anticipation of the new hiring will go out in December and January. I keep reading that the SIs will go until February but I never found anybody who actually had a February interview date. I wonder if the February date might just be a last chance for people who had to reschedule?
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Post by gadourylaw on Jan 6, 2009 15:27:44 GMT -5
Dear Zero,
My SI date is February 3rd and has been from the start.
Sincerely, Mike Gadoury
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Post by southernmiss on Jan 6, 2009 15:33:07 GMT -5
Mine is Feb. 5th
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Post by northwest on Jan 6, 2009 21:17:57 GMT -5
Mine is February 4; I had to be rescheduled from a date in October.
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Post by Pixie on Jan 6, 2009 21:58:58 GMT -5
Those of you who are betting on the early March dates, or any March dates for that matter, need to remember that OPM is running this railroad. Pix.
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Post by zero on Jan 7, 2009 9:08:08 GMT -5
Those of you who are betting on the early March dates, or any March dates for that matter, need to remember that OPM is running this railroad. Pix. I'm not educated on this issue but I shall not let that stop me from expressing an opinion (often wrong but never uncertain as I am). I see no reason why OPM couldn't come up with scores in a couple of weeks after the last interview. If OPM has been keeping up at each stage with inputting the data, it need only put in the last of the interview scores into the giant excel spreadsheet I bet it uses rank and sort the register. I read somewhere that OPM has contractors lined up to tabulate and sort this information. Hopefully there are no adverse data entry errors (e.g. transposing an 85 to a 58 score).
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Post by samone on Jan 7, 2009 15:41:19 GMT -5
4/20 - 5/15 ALJ Interviews. Asking for volunteers.
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Post by zero on Jan 7, 2009 16:33:51 GMT -5
samone: A great nugget of information in a short email! Brevity is the soul of a good post.
Now to violate this principle, allow me to ask a long question. How do the SSA interviews work? Do they line up specific interviews for specific regions? Is there somebody who will actually have to live with the consequences of the selection involved in the interview? If so, this would suggest multiple interviews for our friends that picked every geographic location.
I have read that SSA only interviews once which suggests that SSA has an assembly line for interviews and everyone gets run through essentially the same cattle chute. That is, if you don't get hired in Atlanta, you won't get interviewed again for a position in Topeka. SSA will just take the results from the single interview to consider you for every position.
Does SSA assign a score to the interviewee? Or is it like Caesar with the gladiators (either thumb up or down).
I'm thinking that my hypotheses that OPM has been building the register on a rolling basis must be true of the last SI is in February and the first Agency interview will be in March. Of course, this assumes that the March interviews are from the new register. Anyone know if that's true?
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Post by flannery on Jan 7, 2009 20:28:04 GMT -5
Zero, I agree with you that, -- best guess -- the OPM folks are working the "cases" as they find them--on sort of a "rolling inventory" basis. That is to say, they are assigning a raw score to each written exam person and each SI person as they test them, in real time. Again, just guessing but--I think they then, after the last SI is done, transmute all these three-part units (the app, the Written, the SI) into some kind of unitary score after the last SI interviewee on Feb. 13 (or whenever it is). Then, after the transmutation part is done (in February, again I am guessing)--we get our scores--for better or worse, richer or poorer. My guess is we will know where we stand, score-wise, sometime between the first week in March and the second (should we start a poll?). You ask about the agency-specific (in this case, SSA?) interview.... Well, based on anecdotal evidence only, I believe it is done only once. And yes, though there may be some kind of numeric score, my guess is that it is more in terms of a thumbs up or down, gladiator-style, as you describe it. This is all provisional of course, as the budget could -- again, a guess--derail things suddenly... Regards to All, Flannery
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