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Post by flannery on Nov 20, 2008 7:57:59 GMT -5
The last written test was this week and as I understand it, the last interview will be Feb 3 or 4. I've heard anecdotally (but from a fairly reliable source) that about 500 were invited to test ( could certainly be wrong, but this is what I heard). Anyone willing to wager when the scores will come out? I will throw a chip out on the table to support my bet that it will be mid-March, March 15. That would give OPM almost six weeks to pull everything together and do their transmutation of raw scores into the curve or whatever it is that's done at that stage of the game. The Ides of March sounds as good as any other date to me... any bets out there, ladies and gentlemen? In the meantime, I hope everybody is holding up okay and looking forward to spending some time w/family and friends next week for Thanksgiving.  |
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Post by bina on Nov 28, 2008 17:29:46 GMT -5
The eternal optimist, I'll bet they come out on Valentine's day, mid-Feb.!
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Post by zero on Dec 1, 2008 10:16:52 GMT -5
500 invited to test! Oh my stars! Wasn't it limited to the first 750 applications? So 2/3 of the applicants got an invitation this time?
**note: in a different thread, I calculated that the actual number is probably between 290 and 330.
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Post by apppending on Dec 1, 2008 14:29:16 GMT -5
At the L.A. NOSSCR we were told 220-230 were tested.
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Post by privateatty on Dec 2, 2008 20:52:12 GMT -5
230 to 500 is the best the Board can do?
I mean a 2 to 5% margin of error is par, but this?
Folks gotta know, how many positions are being filled by SSA and how many were tested? Scores, they can come later.
Lights, action..........
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Post by nothingventured on Dec 2, 2008 22:22:46 GMT -5
About 3 weeks ago, Lisa DeSoto said that SSA plans to hire 75 ALJs in FY 2009.
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Post by privateatty on Dec 3, 2008 17:01:14 GMT -5
Is that all?
Do we have anything more definitive? Thanks in advance.............
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Post by flannery on Dec 23, 2008 20:48:09 GMT -5
At this point, I've taken the written exam and sat for the OPM interview. Just out of curiosity, I checked Application Manager. It said Accomplishment Record was complete and no results yet for Written Test. But because the score consists of more than the Accomplishment Record and the written exam, I looked for the status of the OPM interview. There is no status line for the OPM interview. .... I wonder what, if anything that means... Does anybody have a clue as to what component of your score each of these pieces contributes? If the interview has weight, which I feel certain it does, why doesn't Application Manager refer to it in anyway? And again, I revivify my question--does anybody have a feel for the timeline ahead? Regards,
Flannery
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Post by Pixie on Dec 23, 2008 22:01:34 GMT -5
Flannery: You are dealing with OPM. Pixie.
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Post by workdrone on Dec 24, 2008 1:48:20 GMT -5
And again, I revivify my question--does anybody have a feel for the timeline ahead? Supposedly earlier this year OPM told SSA they'd have a new register ready by February 2009. However, considering the SI this cycle are scheduled into February 2009, it's hard to see the new register being ready in the same month. So my best guess is sometime between March and May of 2009. |
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Post by Pixie on Dec 24, 2008 8:01:58 GMT -5
Drone, because OPM is running this train, I think your guess of sometime between March and May is close, if you eliminate March. My guess is that it will be mid April or May. This would give SSA plenty of time to obtain a small certificate from the current register after the budget is passed--hopefully by March.
So, for you insiders with good track records, who made the certificate last time but didn't get picked up, you may get another chance for consideration. The quicker the budget goes through, and the longer the OPM process takes, the better off you will be. Pix.
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Post by dazedandconfused on Dec 24, 2008 8:06:13 GMT -5
Pixie, when you say one more small cert, what do you think the number will be; 25? 40?
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Edit by Pixie: The number was about 30 a few months ago. Pix.
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Post by notherapp on Dec 24, 2008 10:19:40 GMT -5
Pixie, I don't understand your last paragraph. Insider or not, (1) the three strike rule could well have already elminated them, since there is no notification that you are no longer going to be considered, and (2) newbies will be interspersed with those already on the list, so that there will now be a not insignificant number o9f newbies ahead of those already on the list with lower scores.
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Edit by Pixie: (1) See the Mouse's post below. These are people the agency wants to pick up. The 3 strikes rule doesn't have to apply to them. (2) That is exactly why the agency will want to ask for another cert before the new names are added to the register. Pix.
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Post by samone on Dec 24, 2008 11:59:57 GMT -5
They want to hire a few people from the current cert or the register? Wouldn't they get a new cert?
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Post by nonamouse on Dec 24, 2008 12:08:30 GMT -5
Pixie, I don't understand your last paragraph. Insider or not, (1) the three strike rule could well have already elminated them, since there is no notification that you are no longer going to be considered, and (2) newbies will be interspersed with those already on the list, so that there will now be a not insignificant number o9f newbies ahead of those already on the list with lower scores. Despite all of the posting about people being eliminated forever from consideration by "3 strikes" there is nothing that says an agency cannot pass over a candidate 3 times on one cert and then decide that they want them on a later cert. As you have already noted, the register changes relative to new people being added to the mix. The person who was not the pick from the 3 choices for a city in 2008 could be the winner in 2009. As already noted elsewhere, everyone who makes it onto the register is "qualified" for the job, but one of factors in getting selected or not is who gets onto a cert with you. |
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Post by Pixie on Dec 24, 2008 14:01:07 GMT -5
They want to hire a few people from the current cert or the register? Wouldn't they get a new cert? Yes, they will have to get a new certificate. This time they know who will be on it, and for which locations. |
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Post by notherapp on Dec 24, 2008 14:29:38 GMT -5
Re: Nonamouse - What about those of us who were asterisked on the second cert this year (and hence, not even considered) because we had been considered 3x on the first cert? BTW, since the regulatory langauge is in the permissive, there was nothing REQUIRING SSA to utilize the three strike rule in the first place. The fact that it elected to utilize that rule is a harbinger of its approach in the future.
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Post by samone on Dec 24, 2008 14:57:35 GMT -5
Pixie, I changed my geographic selections, do you know if they were updated immediately? Or will they update them when the new names are added to the register?
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Post by Pixie on Dec 24, 2008 15:50:23 GMT -5
Pixie, I changed my geographic selections, do you know if they were updated immediately? Or will they update them when the new names are added to the register? If I gave an answer, it would be a guess. I would guess about 50/50. There are arguments to be made on both sides. Sorry I'm not more definitive. Pix. |
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Post by judicature on Dec 25, 2008 18:10:52 GMT -5
Samone -
It seems reasonable to me that the geographical preference would be effective for any certificate issued thereafter - I have no inside information - but OPM is hiring for all federal agencies. Why would they wait on adding names to the register to make a geographical preference change effective? It seems to me these are two different procedures. They reopened the register, you got your change in that window. I would expect (hope?) that your change would be sufficient for all future certs until you get hired or change your preferences again on a future reopening of the register.
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