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Post by privateatty on Jan 7, 2009 21:30:00 GMT -5
Prior posts from those with assumably more than pedestrian knowledge of this process infer that the agency knows whom it wants. Apparently, its from one way or another, one being the interview.
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Post by pm on Jan 7, 2009 21:33:45 GMT -5
Those of you who are betting on the early March dates, or any March dates for that matter, need to remember that OPM is running this railroad. Pix. I'm not educated on this issue but I shall not let that stop me from expressing an opinion (often wrong but never uncertain as I am). I see no reason why OPM couldn't come up with scores in a couple of weeks after the last interview. If OPM has been keeping up at each stage with inputting the data, it need only put in the last of the interview scores into the giant excel spreadsheet I bet it uses rank and sort the register. I read somewhere that OPM has contractors lined up to tabulate and sort this information. Hopefully there are no adverse data entry errors (e.g. transposing an 85 to a 58 score). Of course OPM "could" do everything you say, just as Congress "could" balance the federal budget, but neither is going to happen. OPM used contractors last year and pressed to get out a register ASAP because they were under political pressure to do so. This year they are under no political pressure and I have not seen any credible information to suggest they are using contractors in any significant respect. They are going to take as much time as they want. You really should listen to Pixie. |
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Post by Pixie on Jan 7, 2009 22:35:21 GMT -5
Thank you PM. At least I have one supporter left! My comments are based on the track record of OPM over the past number of years watching how they operate, and more importantly, how slowly they operate. OPM has given assurances to SSA about the time lines, but we shall see how it plays out. OPM could surprise everyone and get it in on time for once. But I doubt it. Pix.
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Post by judicature on Jan 7, 2009 23:42:27 GMT -5
Ignore Pixie at your peril; she is rarely wrong and has more than one supporter left!  |
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Post by nonamouse on Jan 7, 2009 23:54:37 GMT -5
Ignore Pixie at your peril; she is rarely wrong and has more than one supporter left! Exactly right! Pixie rocks. |
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Post by privateatty on Jan 8, 2009 23:35:31 GMT -5
Thanks, Pixie, your support from this quarter is unquestionable, but you do have an advantage, would you not concede?
"Women get the last word in every argument. Anything a man says after that is the beginning of a new argument." ~Author Unknown
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Post by jagghagg on Jan 9, 2009 4:26:12 GMT -5
"Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid."
~George Carlin~
(Ah'm jes sayin'......)
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Post by Pixie on Jan 9, 2009 22:08:00 GMT -5
"Here's all you have to know about men and women: women are crazy, men are stupid. And the main reason women are crazy is that men are stupid." ~George Carlin~ (Ah'm jes sayin'......) Yes! Although I will admit to a certain fondness for them. |
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Post by zarco522 on Jan 11, 2009 15:23:43 GMT -5
I am telling myself that we won't hear anything until April or May. That makes it easier for me to put it out of my mind. Anyway, the request for volunteers for interviews and all could be for the "small cert" some people have been mentioning, couldn't it? I am just as anxious as anyone, but a friend on mine who is now an ALJ told me that, last time, the process from application to new job took nearly a year. So I don't expect that SSA interviews will start before May/June for this new group. If, I am wrong and it's earlier, great! But at least I can focus on my current work in the meantime. I have my fingers crossed for us all! :-)
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Post by privateatty on Jan 11, 2009 19:49:12 GMT -5
From what this Thread tells us is that there may be a small cert (Pixie: 30 or so--but only a strong rumor) of those on the Register. The up-coming SSA Interviews are for those who will make the Register shortly (that I inferred) and for a much larger class (123 or so--Hooligan).
Apparently there are 30 or so SSA wants to reach and may not be able to (although I've hard no stories of them being denied) once the new Register is established. Whether or not they have the budget is anyone's guess.
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Post by Pixie on Jan 12, 2009 5:54:00 GMT -5
The small class was no rumor, but the idea for that was about four or five months ago when I heard about it. I have heard nothing recently, but that doesn't mean the idea has been shelved.
Those candidates have already been interviewed, and are ready to go. They could be accepted into one of the classes that are being planned for the summer, so no special accommodations would be necessary. If OCALJ is going to follow that path, it will have to request a certificate before the new names are added to the register. According to those in the know, the new register will be ready in early March, but I am still skeptical OPM will move that quickly. Pix.
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Post by barkley on Jan 12, 2009 6:25:22 GMT -5
That is a disheartening match-up. Who will move the slowest - OPM in tabulating scores and publishing the updated register or Congress in passing a budget?
And Thanks Pixie, for your patience with us mere mortals.
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Post by flannery on Jan 25, 2009 15:52:11 GMT -5
Ladies and gents--in a couple of short weeks, the last SI will have taken place. When does OPM start checking references? My guess is there are about 400-500 people in play here who are in the running--so if the last SI is 2-13--that's a whole lot of reference checking they will have to do if my bet is correct, that mid-March we will get our NORRs. I'm assuming that the NORR consists, at least in part, of a numeric score for the quality of your references (e.g., like all six said you were great; or four of the six said you were great and two declined to answer--that sort of thing). Could I pick your collective brains on this--can OPM conduct reference checks on 400-500 people (with say, six references each) in time to give us our NORRs sometime in March? From personal experience, I can say I have been called two different times on the last year's hiring and the 2006 (was it '06--I think so) hiring and the calls didn't last more than maybe 6-7 minutes tops, so maybe it can be done. Your thoughts? In the meantime, stay warm--it's cold out there!
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Post by pm on Jan 25, 2009 16:31:36 GMT -5
You get points for your application, the WD and the SI. No points for anything else.
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Post by barkley on Jan 25, 2009 16:54:00 GMT -5
I thought that those who had their names forwarded to SSA got a packet of stuff to fill out, including a chance to eliminate cities from their geo. pref. and to update references. It was in connection with the SSA hiring that references were contacted. OPM did not do any verification. Right?
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Post by semipa on Jan 25, 2009 17:38:54 GMT -5
None of my references were checked last year until the SSA hiring phase when I had to provide the names of 3 judges, 3 adversary attorneys, and 3 personal references.
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Post by privateatty on Jan 25, 2009 18:30:54 GMT -5
Last year SSA contracted with some folks who did the reference checking. It gone done, sometimes a bit after the fact, (not my case), but with other folks on the Board, as I recall.
Alot of the wanna be Boarders experienced some acidic uptick in that these contractors hadn't gotten to them on a "timely" basis. Ce sera sera.
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Post by traceb on Jan 26, 2009 9:50:35 GMT -5
What does the background check look like? I'm just curious, what do they look for?
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Post by knownuthin on Jan 26, 2009 15:02:21 GMT -5
Last summer during the ALJ class, an investigator met with me to conduct the background interview. It lasted about an hour and just went over the information I had put on the form. Obviously, I had already been selected before the interview.
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Post by blackswan on Jan 26, 2009 19:47:21 GMT -5
Is that standard procedure for everyone? I hadn't heard of that before.
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