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Post by gary on Jul 31, 2015 13:21:38 GMT -5
Thanks for the added info and insight hope.
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Post by Friant on Jul 31, 2015 13:36:26 GMT -5
Fri, 31 July@1330: 4 interviewees.
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Post by owl on Jul 31, 2015 15:51:38 GMT -5
Had my interview this morning at 830. There were four of us interviewing. Glad to be done. Think I did well, but as expected the interviewers would not provide feedback. When I interviewed in June 2010, the lead interviewer, an RCALJ, told me (paraphrasing), at the conclusion of my 80 minute interview, "we're hiring in August" instead "thanks for interviewing" or something similar. I was offered my position in early August and reported in September 2010, so while not "actual" feedback, I though it was a pretty good, tell, sign, etc. Of course, this was an RCALJ. A HOCALJ also took part in my interview, so if you have two HOCALJs, they may be more reserved in their comments at the end of the interview. Just my experience. When I interviewed, I was told not to let the door hit me on the way out...good omen or bad? Actually, I was told (and I interviewed in November 2014) by the ranking ALJ on the panel something along the lines of, "We're hiring in December but if you don't get picked up this round, don't get discouraged, there'll be plenty of other rounds later on." I do have a NOR score that is lower than average for the board and a small and relatively popular GAL -- and one's NOR score is printed on the GAL election sheet, a copy of which I think the interviewers have in their packet. So I knew - and they knew - I wasn't getting hired right away no matter how the interview turned out. I have parsed those words like scripture since that day and have decided that there is a 50% chance they were meant as the equivalent of winking and elbow nudging along the lines described by mcb to indicate I would at least be getting something better than a "not recommended," and a 50% chance that they were meant as simply factual statements and common human courtesy, with no intent to telegraph anything whatsoever. And in any event, as we all know, interviewers couldn't give 100% reliable clues even if they wanted to, because oftentimes the reference checks are not complete by the time of the interview - they certainly weren't for me and I doubt they are finished for anyone who is interviewing in the present wave.
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Post by luckylady2 on Jul 31, 2015 16:04:54 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the interviewers don't have the background checks regardless. All the info goes to a hiring committee & they - not the interviewers - make rankings & selections.
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Post by mcb on Jul 31, 2015 16:40:30 GMT -5
I do have a NOR score that is lower than average for the board and a small and relatively popular GAL -- and one's NOR score is printed on the GAL election sheet, a copy of which I think the interviewers have in their packet. So I knew - and they knew - I wasn't getting hired right away no matter how the interview turned out. I have parsed those words like scripture since that day and have decided that there is a 50% chance they were meant as the equivalent of winking and elbow nudging along the lines described by mcb to indicate I would at least be getting something better than a "not recommended," and a 50% chance that they were meant as simply factual statements and common human courtesy, with no intent to telegraph anything whatsoever. When they tell you they're hiring in August, or December, or whenever, I'm sure it's with the caveat, assuming you pass your background/reference check. Anyway, I had a huge GAL, everthing except Puerto Rico, and was assigned to an ODAR 2,300 miles from where I lived. Luckily, in less than a year, I got a transfer back to the ODAR closest to my home.
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Post by lizdarcy on Jul 31, 2015 16:48:40 GMT -5
There were 5 people in my interview group at Falls Church in November. One of them is in my class right now. Neither of the interviewers gave me any hints on the way out.
As the bus rolled in this morning at Skyline, I saw a tall woman in a black suit waiting to be let in by security. I wished her good luck, as I wish good luck to all of you. I hope it goes exactly the way you want it to go.
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Post by owl on Jul 31, 2015 19:45:08 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the interviewers don't have the background checks regardless. All the info goes to a hiring committee & they - not the interviewers - make rankings & selections. Yes, and what I meant was, a good interview grade could ultimately be rendered moot anyway, unbeknownst to the interviewers, by the reference checks that some contractor is working on separately somewhere else. So even if they wanted to subtly signal someone that it's in the bag, they could never really do so anyway. Their input is *really* important but it's not the only determinant. Good luck to all those interviewing and interviewed!
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Post by anotherfed on Jul 31, 2015 21:40:32 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure the interviewers don't have the background checks regardless. All the info goes to a hiring committee & they - not the interviewers - make rankings & selections. Yes, and what I meant was, a good interview grade could ultimately be rendered moot anyway, unbeknownst to the interviewers, by the reference checks that some contractor is working on separately somewhere else. So even if they wanted to subtly signal someone that it's in the bag, they could never really do so anyway. Their input is *really* important but it's not the only determinant. Good luck to all those interviewing and interviewed! From what I have pieced together, a "highly recommend" interview can overcome a myriad of flaws, short of a past history as an ax murderer.
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Post by minny on Aug 1, 2015 9:04:07 GMT -5
Yes, and what I meant was, a good interview grade could ultimately be rendered moot anyway, unbeknownst to the interviewers, by the reference checks that some contractor is working on separately somewhere else. So even if they wanted to subtly signal someone that it's in the bag, they could never really do so anyway. Their input is *really* important but it's not the only determinant. Good luck to all those interviewing and interviewed! From what I have pieced together, a "highly recommend" interview can overcome a myriad of flaws, short of a past history as an ax murderer. How do you go about finding out what your interview rating was/is? I have read several comments about how much a "highly recommend" rating can help you, but I'm wondering if this is an extremely logical and common sense bit of speculation, or whether we can/will actually get our interview ratings.
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Post by stmu86 on Aug 1, 2015 9:07:31 GMT -5
I had my interview 31 July at 0830. There were 3 others waiting with me. As others stated, no indication on how I did. I felt good about the interview but time will tell. On my way back to the airport the cab driver, Ishmael, told me I got the job.....there you have it:)!
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Post by Pixie on Aug 1, 2015 9:10:45 GMT -5
I had my interview 31 July at 0830. There were 3 others waiting with me. As others stated, no indication on how I did. I felt good about the interview but time will tell. On my way back to the airport the cab driver, Ishmael, told me I got the job.....there you have it:)! Ishmael always says that; don't put a lot of stock in what he says!
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Post by gary on Aug 1, 2015 9:15:49 GMT -5
From what I have pieced together, a "highly recommend" interview can overcome a myriad of flaws, short of a past history as an ax murderer. How do you go about finding out what your interview rating was/is? I have read several comments about how much a "highly recommend" rating can help you, but I'm wondering if this is an extremely logical and common sense bit of speculation, or whether we can/will actually get our interview ratings. You don't. Except if you get the job you know you did not get the dreaded "Not Recommended."
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Post by stmu86 on Aug 1, 2015 9:17:18 GMT -5
I had my interview 31 July at 0830. There were 3 others waiting with me. As others stated, no indication on how I did. I felt good about the interview but time will tell. On my way back to the airport the cab driver, Ishmael, told me I got the job.....there you have it:)! Ishmael always says that; don't put a lot of stock in what he says! Pixie....I am surprised you have such little faith in Ishmael....I'm going with it!
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Post by Pixie on Aug 1, 2015 9:25:06 GMT -5
I would too, if I were you!
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Post by funkyodar on Aug 1, 2015 10:21:31 GMT -5
If anyone knows about a process of throwing everything at a very likely unattainable goal that has a high propensity for leaving you bruised, battered and scared shipless, it would be Ishmael.
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Post by gary on Aug 1, 2015 10:34:32 GMT -5
If anyone knows about a process of throwing everything and a very likely unattainable goal that has a high propensity for leaving you bruised, battered and scared shipless, it would be Ishmael. Does using his own coffin as a lifeboat figure into his relevant experience?
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Post by ba on Aug 1, 2015 12:06:08 GMT -5
If anyone knows about a process of throwing everything at a very likely unattainable goal that has a high propensity for leaving you bruised, battered and scared shipless, it would be Ishmael. But can we be sure his name was Ishmael, or are we just supposed to call him Ishmael?
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Post by gary on Aug 1, 2015 12:42:16 GMT -5
Way back when, in the years BB (Before Bob), ALJ hopefuls used to implore Bob's predecessor, crying out in their anguish, "Call me, Ishmael!"
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Post by paattorney on Aug 1, 2015 21:52:08 GMT -5
I had my interview 31 July at 0830. There were 3 others waiting with me. As others stated, no indication on how I did. I felt good about the interview but time will tell. On my way back to the airport the cab driver, Ishmael, told me I got the job.....there you have it:)! Ishmael always says that; don't put a lot of stock in what he says! Brain fart apparently. Posted there were four of us, but there were definitely five of us at the 830 slot on Friday. There were two men and three women including myself. One insider. Introduced myself to stmu86 on the way out.
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Post by anotherfed on Aug 2, 2015 7:47:17 GMT -5
Way back when, in the years BB (Before Bob), ALJ hopefuls used to implore Bob's predecessor, crying out in their anguish, "Call me, Ishmael!" And now Ishmael is driving a cab? Does not bode well for Bob's retirement...
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