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Post by anotherfed on Mar 14, 2014 16:14:09 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many were hired from the old register in 2013, while we were going thru the agonies of testing for the new register?
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Post by hopefalj on Mar 14, 2014 16:31:15 GMT -5
Does anyone know how many were hired from the old register in 2013, while we were going thru the agonies of testing for the new register? 29 were hired. Scroll down this page of the following thread to see the cities included on that last cert from the old register. I'll delete this post in the near future as it probably doesn't belong on this page, but I wanted to answer your question. aljdiscussion.proboards.com/thread/2280/offers-out?page=9
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Post by alj123 on Mar 14, 2014 18:25:09 GMT -5
Just thinking about the likelihood that many of us will not make it onto the first certificate: Do we know whether people who tested and got on the register in the earlier rounds were among those who were hired after the later "refresh" of the register occurred? Maybe this is an oversimplification, but in other words, do they do the refresh to add more candidates because they don't like the candidates left on the earlier register?
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 14, 2014 20:29:04 GMT -5
The hires since 2010 have included both people who got on the register through the November 2009 refresh and those who were already on there as of November 2009. I think the 2009 refresh was partly motivated by ODARs plans to open several new offices in the next year or so. Some did open, but eight did not, and still haven't.
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Post by sealaw90 on Mar 14, 2014 20:39:09 GMT -5
The hires since 2010 have included both people who got on the register through the November 2009 refresh and those who were already on there as of November 2009. I think the 2009 refresh was partly motivated by ODARs plans to open several new offices in the next year or so. Some did open, but eight did not, and still haven't. Is there any hope that those 8 other offices might be opening this fiscal year or next? SSA got a nice bump in their annual appropriations, so perhaps? I am not sure you mentioned where these 8 magic cities are, but can you elaborate? Just curious, as they are obviously not on anyone's GAL.
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Post by anotherfed on Mar 14, 2014 20:44:04 GMT -5
Thank you, Hopefalj!
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 14, 2014 21:25:34 GMT -5
I'm an outsider, but I don't think there's been any indication that those shelved offices are back in the plan.
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Post by funkyodar on Mar 14, 2014 21:38:01 GMT -5
I'm an outsider, but I don't think there's been any indication that those shelved offices are back in the plan. No indication of such from this insider's perspective either. in fact, the opposite. they shut down one of the "new" offices that had opened reportedly due to sick building syndrome or some such enviro problem (augusta GA I think).
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Post by sealaw90 on Mar 14, 2014 22:02:40 GMT -5
Right, I remember reading that post a while back.
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Post by Orly on Mar 14, 2014 23:30:57 GMT -5
No indication of such from this insider's perspective either. in fact, the opposite. they shut down one of the "new" offices that had opened reportedly due to sick building syndrome or some such enviro problem (augusta GA I think). Yup. It did happen. The newly opened Augusta Georgia office is history. And with the current Commissioner's focus on re-staffing the field offices, don't expect any new ODAR hearing office anytime soon.
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Post by dpageks on Mar 18, 2014 8:13:55 GMT -5
Maxlaw, I would like to echo the kudos. This will be quite helpful to future applicants. I can think of a couple of additional data points that future readers might be especially interested in (based on the level of relative frenzy on the board). One would be interview date ranges. Also, the number of SSA hires may be relevant to future numbers oriented speculators. In this type of process, any additional data points can provide some comfort. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything else that might be critical. Thanks for the suggestions. Re: the date ranges, you're the second or third person to mention that. For now though, I'm leaning towards just letting people click on the date linked in the chart to get that information - the link takes you to a relevant thread, and the ranges are at or near the top of each thread. Re: the hiring numbers - I think that's a good idea, I'll plan on adding it. Not today though, unless someone wants to just pm/post the info for me Here's some additional information I found concerning the number of ALJs hired between 1998 and 2012.
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Post by witty on Mar 18, 2014 9:38:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the suggestions. Re: the date ranges, you're the second or third person to mention that. For now though, I'm leaning towards just letting people click on the date linked in the chart to get that information - the link takes you to a relevant thread, and the ranges are at or near the top of each thread. Re: the hiring numbers - I think that's a good idea, I'll plan on adding it. Not today though, unless someone wants to just pm/post the info for me Here's some additional information I found concerning the number of ALJs hired between 1998 and 2012.
The SSA Appendix H dpagekansas posted states that the last register was created in 2009. So, were all ALJs hired in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, as shown on SSA Appendix H, hired from the 2009 register? Were more ALJs hired subsequent to the creation of SSA Appendix H?
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 18, 2014 9:53:33 GMT -5
Here's some additional information I found concerning the number of ALJs hired between 1998 and 2012.
The SSA Appendix H dpagekansas posted states that the last register was created in 2009. So, were all ALJs hired in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, as shown on SSA Appendix H, hired from the 2009 register? Were more ALJs hired subsequent to the creation of SSA Appendix H? The posting refers to the 2007 register and yes, that was the last register before the current one that came out March 13, 2014, but there were two refreshes of the 2007 register as well. There have been many hires since that appendix. The 1st page of this timeline thread has the numbers.
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Post by Gaidin on Mar 18, 2014 10:47:54 GMT -5
The SSA Appendix H dpagekansas posted states that the last register was created in 2009. So, were all ALJs hired in 2009, 2010, 2011 and 2012, as shown on SSA Appendix H, hired from the 2009 register? Were more ALJs hired subsequent to the creation of SSA Appendix H? The posting refers to the 2007 register and yes, that was the last register before the current one that came out March 13, 2014, but there were two refreshes of the 2007 register as well. There have been many hires since that appendix. The 1st page of this timeline thread has the numbers. It appears to be missing the hire last summer of about 30?
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Post by JudgeRatty on Mar 18, 2014 10:49:04 GMT -5
The posting refers to the 2007 register and yes, that was the last register before the current one that came out March 13, 2014, but there were two refreshes of the 2007 register as well. There have been many hires since that appendix. The 1st page of this timeline thread has the numbers. It appears to be missing the hire last summer of about 30? Agree!
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 19, 2014 0:33:35 GMT -5
The 2009 hire was from the register as it existed before 2009. The 2009 refresh was actually not completed until May, 2010.
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Post by Orly on Mar 19, 2014 7:04:28 GMT -5
The 2009 hire was from the register as it existed before 2009. The 2009 refresh was actually not completed until May, 2010. Yes. The spring 2009 hires were from candidates who got on the register from the 2007 and 2008 testing cycles.
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Post by dpageks on Mar 30, 2014 18:39:46 GMT -5
FYI: For calculating a likely time-frame.
I was a reference for an ALJ candidate who was on the first cert in 2009. SSA's contractor contacted me on April 8, 2009 via email. On April 10, 2009, I spoke with a lady by phone for about 40 minutes about the candidate; we had a lot of fun on the phone, as I recall. He was hired and has been an ALJ since that date.
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Post by 71stretch on Mar 30, 2014 22:17:35 GMT -5
FYI: For calculating a likely time-frame. I was a reference for an ALJ candidate who was on the first cert in 2009. SSA's contractor contacted me on April 8, 2009 via email. On April 10, 2009, I spoke with a lady by phone for about 40 minutes about the candidate; we had a lot of fun on the phone, as I recall. He was hired and has been an ALJ since that date. Yes, that was the March, 2009, certificate, listed under the 2008 column, as it came after the 2008 refresh was completed.
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Post by Gaidin on Mar 31, 2014 11:31:40 GMT -5
Below are the "milepost" dates for significant points in this process. You can click on the date to take you to a relevant thread. Keep in mind that the 2007 and 2013 openings were for the purpose of creating an entirely new register, while the 2008 and 2009 re-openings refreshed the existing one. The register for the 2013 examination will not exist until a final notice of results is issued; until then the 2007-2009 register remains. PLEASE NOTE, the time periods involved in the creation of the new register have deviated significantly from the prior one. Caveat emptor. *The earliest post on this board dates to September 3, 2007, therefore there are no thread links for earlier dates. You may be able to find information on these events by searching The Other Board. The current OPM register was created in 2007, and reopened briefly in 2008 and 2009. With the exception of those eligible for a 10-pt veteran's preference, one only may apply to be added to the OPM register during an open period. OPM is in the process of creating a new register, and the period for application for that register closed March 15, 2013. When the examination cycle is complete, OPM will create a new register, and the existing register will be terminated. The information about the last 2013 cert off the "09 register should probably be added. As well as the information about the ability to update the GAL. Whenever that occurred. Not that Maxlaw probably doesn't have a thousand other things to do. I really appreciate (and I know the others on this register do as well) the information provided so far. Thanks.
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