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Post by foghorn on May 13, 2019 21:56:17 GMT -5
I just got the F.O.B. for both. I think a problem may be that while the notice says EEO "or similar level other experience" or words to that effect, the self selection part where they ask you how many years you have of this that and the other refer only to EEO matters. So, if you are in my situation next time consider calling them in advance to find out how you finesse that.
Someone wrote earlier to say they'd managed to get referred without having an EEO background, but didn't say how. WHoever you are did you have employment or labor lit background of some type?
I'm not really sad, just irritated at having my time wasted--and probably not by EEOC but by OPM. Bless them. Bless them all.
I present the following for historical purposes only, and of course abjure the language used:
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Post by alohastate on May 13, 2019 22:25:14 GMT -5
I just got the F.O.B. for both. I think a problem may be that while the notice says EEO "or similar level other experience" or words to that effect, the self selection part where they ask you how many years you have of this that and the other refer only to EEO matters. So, if you are in my situation next time consider calling them in advance to find out how you finesse that. Someone wrote earlier to say they'd managed to get referred without having an EEO background, but didn't say how. WHoever you are did you have employment or labor lit background of some type? Sorry to hear that, Fog. I was referred for an LA EEOC attorney examiner position without any EEOC experience. The job announcement did not require it. Requirements were: One year of professional legal experience; or One year of professional non-legal experience at the GS-11 level or equivalent in the Federal service which demonstrates that the applicant has an intensive knowledge of the laws administered by EEOC and their application |
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Post by neufenland on May 14, 2019 6:59:23 GMT -5
I just got the F.O.B. for both. I think a problem may be that while the notice says EEO "or similar level other experience" or words to that effect, the self selection part where they ask you how many years you have of this that and the other refer only to EEO matters. So, if you are in my situation next time consider calling them in advance to find out how you finesse that. Someone wrote earlier to say they'd managed to get referred without having an EEO background, but didn't say how. WHoever you are did you have employment or labor lit background of some type? Sorry to hear that, Fog. I was referred for an LA EEOC attorney examiner position without any EEOC experience. The job announcement did not require it. Requirements were: One year of professional legal experience; or One year of professional non-legal experience at the GS-11 level or equivalent in the Federal service which demonstrates that the applicant has an intensive knowledge of the laws administered by EEOC and their application The 11 position didn’t, but I’m pretty sure the 14 did. A lot of people can’t realistically consider an 11 at this stage in the game. |
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Post by mockingbird on May 14, 2019 16:07:41 GMT -5
I just got email that I’m tentatively eligible, and referred to the hiring manager, for the supervisory AJ positions in Dallas and Houston. (Personally I’d prefer Houston to be nearer the beach, but I’d enjoy Dallas too because a lot of people say I remind them of J.R. Ewing 😆 I've gotten the green referred notice before and then fallen into USAA radio silence. LOL. Let me know if you hear anything else. I also received a referral for the position(s). |
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Post by alle1334 on Jun 18, 2019 14:38:02 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone knows whether the positions in Dallas or Houston have been filled.
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Post by Pixie on Jun 18, 2019 14:53:50 GMT -5
mockingbird , your avatar is closer to a Northern Wheatear than it is to a Mockingbird, although for a Wheatear, I would expect to see some white tail feathers next to the white feathers at the rump. Below is a Mockingbird and below that is a Northern Wheatear. Pixie  
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Post by A.L. Cool J on Jun 18, 2019 17:10:23 GMT -5
1. And has anyone heard from St. Louis or Memphis?
2. How about a loggerhead shrike?
[Edit: The shrike's tail is longer than the wheatear's, like that of both the avatar and a mockingbird. Indeed, shrikes are sometimes mistaken for mockingbirds because they have similar profiles and markings.
I am no birder, but my son wrote a report on the loggerhead shrike in second grade when he was asked to research an animal that uses tools. Nicknamed the "butcher bird," this shrike often impales live prey on a thorn or barbed wire and leaves behind the eviscerated body. The shrike employs this technique because it prefers prey that is disproportionately large for its size. According to my son's report, the loggerhead shrike is definitely the coolest bird in North America.] |
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Post by kylearan on Jun 19, 2019 7:12:22 GMT -5
Just wondering if anyone knows whether the positions in Dallas or Houston have been filled. If they’ve been filled they haven’t been filled by me. Since I haven’t had any contact for an interview, I have a feeling those are 2 more that I blew. |
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Post by natethegreat on Jun 19, 2019 9:30:56 GMT -5
1. And has anyone heard from St. Louis or Memphis? 2. How about a loggerhead shrike? Referred for Memphis, but no contact since then. |
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Post by kylearan on Jun 19, 2019 16:19:08 GMT -5
Dallas and Houston just sent me my rejection letters.
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Post by Pixie on Jun 19, 2019 18:10:05 GMT -5
1. And has anyone heard from St. Louis or Memphis?
2. How about a loggerhead shrike?
[Edit: The shrike's tail is longer than the wheatear's, like that of both the avatar and a mockingbird. Indeed, shrikes are sometimes mistaken for mockingbirds because they have similar profiles and markings.
I am no birder, but my son wrote a report on the loggerhead shrike in second grade when he was asked to research an animal that uses tools. Nicknamed the "butcher bird," this shrike often impales live prey on a thorn or barbed wire and leaves behind the eviscerated body. The shrike employs this technique because it prefers prey that is disproportionately large for its size. According to my son's report, the loggerhead shrike is definitely the coolest bird in North America.] Yes, it could be a Loggerhead or a Northern Shrike, but it is no Mockingbird. Pixie |
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Post by yellowbird on Jun 19, 2019 20:23:49 GMT -5
I received the FOAD letter for St. Louis today.
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Post by zoey on Jun 25, 2019 16:21:52 GMT -5
Does anyone know the path to getting these administrative judge positions with the MSPB? I have received referrals on multiple occasions, but never an interview. Has anyone ever received an interview for them? Assuming there is no confidentiality restrictions, does anyone know what the process is like?
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Post by sta on Jun 25, 2019 16:34:14 GMT -5
Zoey inquired: "Does anyone know the path to getting these administrative judge positions with the MSPB? I have received referrals on multiple occasions, but never an interview. Has anyone ever received an interview for them? Assuming there is no confidentiality restrictions, does anyone know what the process is like?"
You need to review the vacancy announcement for more information, e.g., which will provide contact information to the Human Resource office processing the announcement. You are asking a factual question, and HR would have the information, e.g., did you meet minimum qualifications, if so, were you rated highly qualified enough to make the certificate of persons going to the selecting official for an interview? If you don't get a response to your inquiry, another way to get information on your job application is to file a FOIA/Privacy Act request.
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Post by villedonna on Jun 25, 2019 16:42:52 GMT -5
I interviewed in Saint Louis last month, and I received a follow up asking for references. I thought it went well. But, I was not selected either.
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Post by zoey on Jun 25, 2019 16:49:58 GMT -5
Does anyone know the path to getting these administrative judge positions with the MSPB? I have received referrals on multiple occasions, but never an interview. Has anyone ever received an interview for them? Assuming there is no confidentiality restrictions, does anyone know what the process is like? I am an MSPB AJ. MSPB usually hires those with substantial experience in Federal personnel law. Private employer employment law won’t cut it. Many of those hired are former employment law agency representatives and appellant representatives with a practice dealing primarily with Federal employment matters. Occasionally, EEOC AJs come over to the Board (to get the GS15) but that’s not too common. Some also come up through the Board’s Office of Appeals Counsel (they draft final orders for the appointed Board members). The Board gets so many applications for each vacancy and many AJs stay for years. It’s an excepted service position (0905), so competitive hiring procedures do not apply. Some MSPB AJs move on to be ALJs but many stay due to the low volume docket and the area of law. Thank you. That is helpful. |
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Post by zoey on Jun 25, 2019 17:03:59 GMT -5
I interviewed in Saint Louis last month, and I received a follow up asking for references. I thought it went well. But, I was not selected either. Thank you for your response. Sorry that you did not get selected. Just out of curiosity, does your practice mostly deal with federal employee personnel law? |
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Post by zoey on Jun 25, 2019 17:23:16 GMT -5
Thank you for your response. Sorry that you did not get selected. Just out of curiosity, does your practice mostly deal with federal employee personnel law? I presume villedonna was commenting on an EEOC AJ position, not MSPB. The Board has no St. Louis office. I am thinking that the EEOC AJ position probably requires deep federal employee personnel law experience too? Maybe not, though. Just curious. |
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Post by zoey on Jun 25, 2019 17:52:38 GMT -5
I am thinking that the EEOC AJ position probably requires deep federal employee personnel law experience too? Maybe not, though. Just curious. I agree but there is a lot of overlap with private sector anti-discrimination laws. I was just making sure we were all on the same page. Thank you. As you can probably tell, I have some experience dealing with federal employee personnel law issues as a federal law clerk and almost seven years of government (local government) and private sector labor and employment litigation experience, but my federal employee personnel experience is not as deep as the day-to-day experience you described. The lack of depth in federal employee personnel law is probably a large part of why I have not been selected for interviews. I was just hoping and dreaming . . .  |
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Post by recoveringalj on Jun 25, 2019 21:32:54 GMT -5
I agree but there is a lot of overlap with private sector anti-discrimination laws. I was just making sure we were all on the same page. Thank you. As you can probably tell, I have some experience dealing with federal employee personnel law issues as a federal law clerk and almost seven years of government (local government) and private sector labor and employment litigation experience, but my federal employee personnel experience is not as deep as the day-to-day experience you described. The lack of depth in federal employee personnel law is probably a large part of why I have not been selected for interviews. I was just hoping and dreaming . . . Don’t take it as a reflection of your credentials. It is a small, specialized bar. The attorneys getting chosen for interviews are usually known quantities. Your best bet is one of the avenues cboro mentioned. |
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